Sartorius - The Doctrine of the Person and Work of Christ

Ken McGuire
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edited November 20 in English Forum

At the risk of forcing out of date, obscure works into the world, I am releasing this.  Ernst (or Ernest?) Sartorius was an obscure figure of whom I had not heard of before.  But he was quoted a few times in the Jacobs book I recently posted, and I found the quotes moderately interesting.  In the Jacobs book his quotes basically show him as a Lutheran figure echoing Augustine's views about Love and the Trinity.

Some quick research showed him as basically a traditional Lutheran in the Church of Prussia who argued that the doctrinal basis of the Prussian Union was Lutheran.  Now the whole history of the Prussian union is a complicated bag of worms, into which I do not wish to dig into or certainly to try to explain...  My quick research also showed that he was greatly influenced by the Kenotic Christology which was big in some German circles in the middle of the 19th Century.

I found two works of his that had been translated into English, his Doctrine of Divine Love, a Christian Ethics book from which Jacobs quoted, and these popular lectures on Christology.  The Christian Ethics book is in proof reading now, but I took a look at these lectures to try to hear a spokesperson of Kenotic Christology in his own words, and so I took a detour from the Doctrine of Divine Love to examine this booklet.

To be honest, I was a bit disappointed.  I don't know if this is because of the popular format, or how it was edited down by SPCK in the English version (the footnote to the 2nd lecture says that it and the 3rd have been significantly edited), but basically the controversial aspects of this theory seem muted.

But it was easy to polish up, and is a decent popular exposition of many Christological themes.  I am not sure that I would have created this work if I had seen how basic it is, but since I had started and it took little work to finish, I am releasing it to the world.

Source of this text is Google Books, specifically, http://books.google.com/books?id=RQ5MAAAAYAAJ. I downloaded their epub and used Calibre to convert to RTF, and then edited in MS Word 2007.  All errors are, of course, my responsibility.

SDG

Ken McGuire

The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann

L8 Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox Silver, Reformed Starter, Academic Essentials

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  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,838 ✭✭✭

    Thanks a lot for giving us these works!

    Mick

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    SDG

    Ken McGuire

    To God the Glory Indeed, Ken!                Finally had a chance to peruse this document and am quite interested in studying it further.

                                                                         Peace to you and ...                Thanks for all your postings!                     *smile*L

                        Rejoice with me; for tomorrow is the 50th anniversary of my Ordination as a Pastor in the Lutheran Church!  In honour of the occasion my Pastor and the Elders have requested me to consecrate the Bread and Wine at Divine Service!

                                                            Liturgy

    The Lutheran Eucharistic liturgy is formally called the "Divine Service", but the terms "the Eucharist" and "Holy Communion" are also used. An example formula for the Lutheran Eucharistic liturgy is as follows

    The Sursum corda is chanted.


    Pastor: The Lord be with you.

    People: And with your spirit.

    Pastor: Lift up your hearts.

    People: We lift them to the Lord.

    Pastor: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God.

    People: It is right and just .

    Next, the proper preface is chanted by the pastor. Below is an example:


    It is truly good, right and salutary that we should at all times and in all places give thanks to you, holy Lord, almighty Father, everlasting, who in the multitude of your saints did surround us with so great a cloud of witnesses that we, rejoicing in their fellowship, may run with patience the race that is set before us and, together with them, may receive the crown of glory that does not fade away. Therefore with angels and archangels and with all the company of heaven we laud and magnify your glorious name, evermore praising you and saying:

    This is followed by the Sanctus, which is chanted.


    Holy, holy, holy Lord,

    God of hosts.

    Heaven and earth are full of your glory.

    Hosanna in the highest.

    Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

    Hosanna in the highest.

    Next, the first part of the Eucharistic Prayer is spoken by the pastor.


    Pastor: You are indeed holy, almighty and merciful God; you are most holy, and great is the majesty of your glory. You so loved the world that you gave your only Son, that whoever believes in him may not perish but have eternal life. Having come into the world, he fulfilled for us your holy will and accomplished our salvation.

    The pastor then says the Words of Institution. Altar bells may be rung at the appropriate times. The pastor may also elevate the elements as well as genuflect.


    Our Lord Jesus Christ, on the night when He was betrayed, took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples and said, 'Take; eat; this is my body, given for you. This do in remembrance of me.' In the same way, also, He took the cup after supper, and when He had given thanks, He gave it to them saying, 'Drink of it all of you. This cup is the New Testament in My Blood, shed for you for the forgiveness of sins. This do as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me.'

    The Eucharistic Prayer continues, along with the Memorial Acclamation.


    Remembering, therefore, his salutary command, his life-giving Passion and death, his glorious resurrection and ascension, and his promise to come again, we give thanks to you, Lord God Almighty, not as we ought, but as we are able; and we implore you mercifully to accept our praise and thanksgiving, and, with your Word and Holy Spirit, to bless us, your servants, and these your own gifts of bread and wine; that we and all who share in the + body and blood of your Son may be filled with heavenly peace and joy, and receiving the forgiveness of sin, may be + sanctified in soul and body, and have our portion will all your saints.

    People: Amen.

    Pastor: The mystery of faith.

    People: When we eat this Bread and drink this Cup, we proclaim your Death, O Lord, until you come again.

    Pastor: O Lord Jesus Christ, only Son of the Father, in giving us Your body and blood to eat and to drink, You lead us to remember and confess Your holy cross and passion, Your blessed death, Your rest in the tomb, Your resurrection from the dead, Your ascension into heaven, and Your coming for the final judgment.

    The Lord's Prayer is chanted by the pastor, followed by the people chanting the doxology.


    Pastor: Lord, remember us in Your kingdom and teach us to pray: Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. People: For the kingdom and the power and the glory are yours now and forever. Amen.

    The pax and sign of peace are chanted by the pastor.


    Pastor: The peace of the Lord be with you always.

    People: And with your spirit.

    Pastor: Let us offer each other a sign of peace. (the peace of Christ is shared among the people)

    Following this, the Agnus Dei is chanted.


    Lamb of God, you take away the sin of the world, have mercy upon us.

    Lamb of God, you take away the sin of the world, have mercy upon us.

    Lamb of God, you take away the sin of the world, grant us peace. Amen.


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    Typical Eucharist in a LCMS church


    The Distribution is next (see above for different manners), it is followed by the nunc dimittis, which is chanted as follows:


    Lord, now you let your servant depart in peace,

    according to your word.

    For my eyes have seen your salvation,

    which you have prepared before the face of all people,

    a light to lighten the Gentiles

    and the glory of your people Israel.

    The postcommunion is prayed by the pastor.


    We give thanks to You, almighty God, that You have refreshed us through this salutary gift, and we implore You that of Your mercy You would strengthen us through the same in faith toward You and in fervent love toward one another; through Jesus Christ, Your Son, our Lord, who lives and reigns with You and the Holy spirit, one God, now and forever. Amen.

    Finally the Benedicamus Domino and benediction are chanted by the pastor and congregation with the Sign of the Cross being made at the end.


    Pastor: The Lord be with you.

    People: And with your spirit.

    Pastor: Let us bless the Lord.

    People: Thanks be to God.

    Pastor: The Lord bless you and keep you; the Lord make his face to shine upon you and be gracious to you; the Lord lift up his countenance on you and give you

     

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • Ken McGuire
    Ken McGuire Member Posts: 2,074 ✭✭✭

    Happy Anniversary! It is indeed something to celebrate that fifty years ago God sent you out to proclaim him, in and out of season, both in preaching as well as sacrament.

    I hope that as you look back over all those years, you can join with the prayer in Eph. 3 - both in Eph 3:7-13 as well as the joyful conclusion of Eph 3:14-21.

    SDG

    Ken McGuire

    The Gospel is not ... a "new law," on the contrary, ... a "new life." - William Julius Mann

    L8 Anglican, Lutheran and Orthodox Silver, Reformed Starter, Academic Essentials

    L7 Lutheran Gold, Anglican Bronze

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    I hope that as you look back over all those years, you can join with the prayer in Eph. 3 - both in Eph 3:7-13 as well as the joyful conclusion of Eph 3:14-21.

    SDG

    Ken McGuire

    Indeed I CAN !                      *smile*                            and ...                    I DO!          *smile*                 Peace!         and ...    Always Joy!      

                       Thanks for the Scriptural Reference.              Will spend a bit of time this evening meditating on lots of things.....   

    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,039 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Rejoice with me; for tomorrow is the 50th anniversary of my Ordination as a Pastor in the Lutheran Church!  In honour of the occasion my Pastor and the Elders have requested me to consecrate the Bread and Wine at Divine Service!

    Fantastic! And thank you for your service.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Milford Charles Murray
    Milford Charles Murray Member Posts: 5,004 ✭✭✭

    Fantastic! And thank you for your service.

    Thanks, MJ!                  You are ONE whose opinion matters to me.  Truly appreciate your contributions to the Logos Forums and also what I used to call your "potpourri" when you contributed many items to the old Logos Newsgroups.                      So .......                  Thank YOU, Indeed!       

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Peace and Joy Always!    

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    Philippians 4:  4 Rejoice in the Lord always; again I will say, Rejoice. 5 Let your reasonableness be known to everyone. The Lord is at hand..........