If you have questions about Logos 4, you’ll find answers to many of them in our three FAQs:
If you don't find answers to your questions in the FAQs,
If you still can't find answers, please start a new thread in the appropriate forum. If another user doesn't beat us to it, we'll do our best to answer your questions as soon as possible.
Can this post be locked in place at the top of the forum for ready access. This is a time saver. I, and I suspect others, will be coming back to this post often.
Thanks
Larry
It is set to stick to the top for 3 months, so it should appear at the top when people navigate to the Logos 4 forum directly. We can keep it up longer than that if necessary.
thank you for this information. It answered many questions.
These special FAQs help. for the life of me I can't figure out why they aren't posted on the main support page and one has to go to the forums to find them. To me this is poor marketing and support. These FAQs finally said that my current resources will work with Logos 4. It was not at all clear before. It is still not clear and my questions have not been answered as to if I can purchase new resources (particularly for download) that will run under Logos 3. I also am mystified by an apparent requirement for 20 gigs of HD space for LOGOS 4 under WIN 7. To me this,if the numbers are correct , suggests a bloated program.
I have no intention upgrading to WIN 7 untl one of my computers actually dies so it does not seem that there is any reason to upgrade to Logos 4.
I would like to know that any new resources that I might buy will run under V3. I guess I will just wait and see what happens.
I have been happy with Logo/Libronix 3 and have encouraged friends to buy it but I do think that this launch could have been managed much better.
I can't figure out why they aren't posted on the main support page and one has to go to the forums to find them.
They are on the main support page and have been, though I just added the brand new one.
It is still not clear
Ask away. I'm happy to try to clear it up.
my questions have not been answered as to if I can purchase new resources (particularly for download) that will run under Logos 3.
Downloadable books and collections for the next several months will work on Logos 3 (and Logos for Mac 1) and Logos 4.
I also am mystified by an apparent requirement for 20 gigs of HD space for LOGOS 4 under WIN 7. To me this, if the numbers are correct, suggests a bloated program.
Nope. We're just giving you that much great content. Keep in mind that Platinum is 8GBs and that your index will be several GBs. If you have existing resources, which it sounds like you do, you're looking at even more GBs. 20GBs is a pretty conservative average. My Logos 4 folder has 88GBs of data in it, but that's with 10,000+ resources.
I don't understand how these are related. Logos 4 doesn't require Windows 7. It will run fine on Vista and XP SP3. There are lots of reasons to upgrade to Logos 4, even if you don't plan to switch to the Logos 4 engine quite yet. You can get hundreds of new books at incredible discounts and run the majority of them on Logos 3.
Any new resources that you buy will run on Logos 3. If that's not the case for future resources, we'll make that clear.
I do think that this launch could have been managed much better.
So do we. We were working around the clock to hit the deadline and would have loved more time. Thanks for your patience and understanding as we continue to make things better.
Phil,
Thanks (seems appropriate to say to y'all down south on the eve of the 4th Thurs of Nov.) for putting this up here and on the support page. These are very useful and will reduce the "traffic" on these forums. Some of the 1K and 2K guys must have been wearing out their keyboards responding to queries - there certainly are several FAQs.
Have a great holiday - y'all deserve it!
Chris
My Logos 4 folder has 88GBs of data in it, but that's with 10,000+ resources.
I'm jealous [:)] LOL
My Logos 4 folder has 88GBs of data in it, but that's with 10,000+ resources. I'm jealous LOL
I'm jealous LOL
Don't be. It's the work computer. His own has a much more modest dimension.
Is there such a thing as "The Logos 4 Guide for Logos 3 Users"? In other words, some kind of organized list of the features and function of L3 and how they are now mapped to, integrated in, and renamed within L4? Most of the tutorials and examples I've come across are geared for first-time users. Are there no materials devoted to assisting long-time L3 users to see the relationship between how things once worked versus now? The list of "new features' is so generic as to be of little benefit. Thanks.
This user created video is useful
http://www.4-14.org.uk/moving-from-logos-3-to-logos-4
Danlsom,
Try here if you haven't already looked at this:
http://sites.google.com/site/logos4wiki/home
And here's a thread that refers to a couple of user created videos that are very helpful.
http://community.logos.com/forums/p/5328/41713.aspx#41713
Jon and Joan, I blogged about user-created videos today and have added a link to them in the original post in this thread. Thanks for the suggestion!
If you still can't find answers,
Thanks Phil, this is very helpful and will go along way to helping many. May I suggest that if someone orders an L4 DVD, that the links to these sites be included with the DVD as well as a strong encouragement to look at the links before installing...
As well, I would suggest (if not already done) that the website be very clear to anyone interested in purchasing,,,that they look at the FAQ before buying.
what if i do not wish to purchace more books, i already have the The Scholars edition and am happy, what is the most basic upgrade for what i have? the "Upgrade Discounter" has an upgrade to a "Portfolio Edition" costing over $2,000, i have no intention of purcahsing this.
I like the format of L4, what is the least upgrade available?
Regards,Edi
what if i do not wish to purchace more books, i already have the The Scholars edition and am happy, what is the most basic upgrade for what i have? the "Upgrade Discounter" has an upgrade to a "Portfolio Edition" costing over $2,000, i have no intention of purcahsing this. I like the format of L4, what is the least upgrade available? Regards,Edi
Edi,
You can simply get the L4 engine for free. http://downloads.logos.com/LBS4/LDLS4Installer/Logos4Setup.exe ou This will install and then download your L3 Scholars resources in L4 format (those that are and the rest in L3 format until they are converted) and then index them. You have to download them again, because they are in a different format and go to a different directory and are indexed on your machine.
Or you can get the crossgrade and get the basic new things designed for L4. Bob recommends you do this at least to get the most out of L4 without upgrading to Silver, Gold, Platinum or Portfolio.
You can read all that I just wrote, in Phil's words, in the last FAQ of the General FAQs, which is the purpose of this thread. I would suggest you read what's out there first.
Much appreciated, thank you Chris
Greetings,
I have been trying to download Logos4 to my HP PC Vista with 500G but keep keep getting the error message Microsoft.VC90.CRT.version="9.0.30729.1",PublicKeyToken="1fc8b9a1e1833b",processorArchitecture="x86".Type="win32". when I try to download the Logos4 prerequisites. I have been on the phone with Tech. support with no help fixing this. Does anyone know what is wrong?
Please email me with a fix if possible OK.
Pastor Bob
Greetings, I have been trying to download Logos4 to my HP PC Vista with 500G but keep keep getting the error message Microsoft.VC90.CRT.version="9.0.30729.1",PublicKeyToken="1fc8b9a1e1833b",processorArchitecture="x86".Type="win32". when I try to download the Logos4 prerequisites. I have been on the phone with Tech. support with no help fixing this. Does anyone know what is wrong? Please email me with a fix if possible OK. Pastor Bob
Are you running this as an administrator? This is required for 1st time installation.
Bob,
This indicates a problem with .NET or the Visual C++ Runtimes. You should first make sure that Vista is up-to-date with SP2. You should then try and download/install the following:
If you get error messages, this will help you to determine the source of your problem. If you don't, try Logos again - it should work if all this is installed properly.
I am new to the "forums" (my only two posts are in the "newbies" thread) and I have a couple of questions that I could not find on the faqs.
1. When L4 updates automatically to let me know that I have 4 new updates/resources; is there a way of telling what was updated?
2. How do you "start a new thread"?
Thanks - Mark Watson - a Logos user in Kentucky.
Thanks for the links. The videos are very helpful.
I still have the shortcut for Libronix on my computer after downloading Logos 4. Should I delete libronix? Does it take up additional unnecessary space?
DO NOT delete Libronix. If you want to you may uninstall it from Windows (big difference!).
But there are a few reasons to keep it (at least for a while):
1) Logos4 is still developing some of its functionality (see below for what's Missing, and a time table for seeing it in L4). If you need any of those things, keep Libronix for now.
2) If you need to install a pre-pub, or purchase a close-out CD from a 3rd party (e.g., Nelson) you will need to install it first to Libronix, before Logos4 will be able to pick it up.
3) You may be more familiar with how Libronix works, and it may save you some time initially to use Libronix. Eventually, most find that Logos4 is much, much easier to use and at the same time more powerful.
To save space, you could remove many of the resources that are duplicated in Logos4 (at least). The program itself doesn't take up that much room, the resources however...
I just loaded L4 yesterday and I'm glad I still have L3 on my system. Some of my things on L3 did not carry over and it looks like a long learning curve for me to feel comfortable with L4. In these times you probably have an excess of disk space and probably can afford to keep it on your system till you are comfortable with the new software.[quote
me too..
It's not really a long learning curve. You sort of sit there and get frustrated for a bit because it's different from Logos 3, and then it clicks! Watching the videos will really help it click.
I just loaded L4 yesterday and I'm glad I still have L3 on my system. Some of my things on L3 did not carry over and it looks like a long learning curve for me to feel comfortable with L4. In these times you probably have an excess of disk space and probably can afford to keep it on your system till you are comfortable with the new software.
Raymond, if it is any consolation to you, your reaction is very common even to the most extreme power users that we have on these forums. However, after an hour or two of using the programme, it began to click with me and the more I used it the more I didn't go back. I have L3 still loaded, but I have not run it since the day I installed my upgrade. Hang in there and if there is anything we can do to help, let us know. Don't forget to look at the wiki - http://wiki.logos.com for additional help as well. The wiki is changing daily and will likely cover an issue you might be having. if it doesn't, say something on here or feel free to edit the wiki yourself because sometimes having newcomers to the wiki helps us see things we have been missing.
My question is : I have got somesthing which I have been looking for in Logos 4 Usual filter ,but my problem is I have difficult what the grammer terms are ,I am looking for help,because I love the Inductive method study,even though I need some more help,even with this too.
If you come across a grammar term you don't understand you should look it up in a grammar for that language. So, for example, if it's Dative in Greek, go to your library and type Greek Grammar and select one of those resources. Search it for "Dative" and you will probably find a chapter on that term. If that chapter is too complicated you could look in your dictionaries to get a basic understanding. Also, Some of the original language texts (the syntax databases in particular) also have glossaries (as a seperate resource) that explains what the terms mean. These are must-reads before using the syntax resources.
If you need more help, start a new thread in the forum and someone will be able to help you.
If you have it, IVPs Pocket Dictionary of New Testament Greek is great for this sort of thing.
Thanks; I had the same question re uninstalling Libronix; I'll hang on to it for a while.
Fenton, a Louisiana user.
I am just rereading all of the posts in the forums and wanted to ask about this statement. More specifically, "There are lots of reasons to upgrade to Logos 4, even if you don't plan to switch to the logos 4 engine quite yet." I have purchased the upgrade from L3 original languages to L4 original languages. It was 68 dollars. Am I still missing the L4 engine? What exactly is that?
I guess now would be as good as anytime to ask this question...If I was considering moving up to the scholar's L4, the only "good" time is now while the special upgrade prices are effective? I was hoping to be able to save money for now and go to Gold in a few months. Could I still get Gold at a later time and not put out the 1300 dollars for retail?
What was being said was that you take take advantage of the discount upgrades prices now, even if you plan to install later. You'd still get the advantage of the extra resources in Logos 3 if you did. If you've installed Logos 4, you have the Logos 4 engine (another name for the software itself distinct from the resources).
You'll still get a special upgrade price to Gold in the future, and certainly won't have to pay retail. But Logos are hinting that the prices are better now than they will be then. What the price will be then, and when 'then' is, no-one knows!
At least the last round of upgrades, I think the early bird special (it was called then) was about 25%. (If I recall correctly). I'm not suggesting that the current collections will go up by 25% because I have no clue what their current price structure is, but historically Mark is correct that it is best to upgrade right after a new release.
God bless you!thank you! I have not tried it yet,because now in Germany it is time to sleep,but perhaps I will try it if I I can come up with it.
the copy of the multiple verses with auto.lookup in libronix 3 is not working in the logos 4 could you please tell me if there is any means I can get it.
Multiple verse copy should now work in L4.0a
In the command box type : show copy bible verses
Insert your multiple verses and click COPY.
I have been looking at Forums and FAQ's - as a disabled user with limited hand movement, I miss the following from L3:
Daily Bible Reading and Devotionals: dates are not current to the day when kept as Reading List in L4. The date created is the date saved for reading list which requires a fiddly reset every day. I have gone back to L3 for my daily reading using Love of God by Carson linked to ESV following McCheynes Reading Plan.
The mouse pad for scrolling pages needs to be available in L4...is it just my laptop?
The rest: study, searching and so on in really exceptional in L4.
Oh - also need Prayer List for L4
Colin Wright
Colin,
I didn't understand what you mean about devotionals, sorry. There is a bug (actually in .NET framework, not Logos) that prevents some mouse pad from scrolling pages. Bob has said he hopes it will be fixed by Q2 2010.
Mark
as a disabled user with limited hand movement
Hi Colin. Welcome to the Forums. Sorry to hear about your condition. We'll hold you up in prayer.
Colin, I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you mean that when you set up a reading list following McCheynes plan it breaks at the wrong place? Or something else?
See this thread: http://community.logos.com/forums/t/8134.aspx it is an issue with Synaptics scroll pads. There is a work around mentioned. I can't say if it works or not as I can't get access to Admin rights on a right click.
This is planned for Q1 (2 - 93 days??) 2010. See the Logos' webpage: http://www.logos.com/4/missingfeatures for a list of what is planned.
Hi Phil
I am not replying to the 4 FAQs - I feel that I have experienced enough facts about Logos 4.!
Are you employed by Libronix or do you have contacts there? I simply cannot get any response from customer support and I have had a succession of complaints with L4. L4a appeared to be an improvement - until the programme crashes started!
L4 crashes every time on boot up - "L4 experienced an error and needs to close".
The problem appears to be related to the Home Page - if I hold control & tell programme to open to a blank layout it works OK until I selct the Home Page icon. Then a blank Home Page appears & the programme wants to close,
So, I was just wondering if you have any insights.
Brian
L4 crashes every time on boot up -
A fix has been released for this. Type "update now" into the command bar to download this release.
BTW. Anyone with the Blue Logos image under their Avatar is a Logos employee.
Thanks heaps!
Problem fixed with update now - to get SR2'
This is all great...The FAQ's help. Buy why is Logos making me buy my books again?
Paul, once you buy a book from Logos you own the rights to use it, period. However, if you are asking about the upgrade prices, those are the costs to cover new books in the base packages.
Paul, we're not. See today's blog post for an idea of what new content you're getting for your money.
