Announcing Logos Mobile Education
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After using Logos for about 2 years now, I believe it is very cheap when you consider what you are getting for your money.
[Y] Been using Logos a bit longer, and I agree with your assessment [Y]
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Would it be to soon to ask for a rough listing of courses? I'm quite interested, especially in Biblical counseling (as a practicing counselor I always want to grow) and teacher, but I know there are many philosophies of counseling that I would not agree with at all. Just curious to see if this is something I can get excited about.
We are preparing a list of courses that represent three categories, 1, under development now, 2. scheduled for production and 3. targets for development. We hope to publish the full list during the summer. I can tell you that among the first courses will be a brand new Logos Academic training course by Morris Proctor, Intro courses to Old Testament, New Testament, four courses in Systematic Theology, brand new Learn to use Greek and Hebrew courses, Hermeneutics, and a variety of OT and NT electives.
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Dare we ask the general price range?
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Dare we ask the general price range?
The best indication on pricing so far is in Dale's post above - http://community.logos.com/forums/p/70628/493853.aspx#493853
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We do NOT want to have to try to GUESS the ""BENT"" we want it in cold clear black and white LARGE PRINT BOLD (and maybe underlined).
And will there be classes for all ""BENT""s?
i agree, but the professor and his place of teaching will tell you volumes about the "bent"
Logos users come from all over the world, and all different denominations. The professor's name and place of teaching may tell them absolutely zero.
Core curriculum is covered with Platinum.
In that case I take it that
Our goal is to offer multiple courses from various theological perspectives.
does, in fact, mean "various Evangelical perspectives".
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We do NOT want to have to try to GUESS the ""BENT"" we want it in cold clear black and white LARGE PRINT BOLD (and maybe underlined).
And will there be classes for all ""BENT""s?
i agree, but the professor and his place of teaching will tell you volumes about the "bent"
Logos users come from all over the world, and all different denominations. The professor's name and place of teaching may tell them absolutely zero.
Core curriculum is covered with Platinum.
In that case I take it that
Our goal is to offer multiple courses from various theological perspectives.
does, in fact, mean "various Evangelical perspectives".
I would take it to mean any Protestant point of view. You could very well be including many reformed points of view as well.
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C'est la vie, and it is what it is. I don't expect them to offer anyone having my perspective because there isn't any...yet. I suspect that as time passes, Logos will open up the options to a broader variety of instructors--but folks really need to keep two things in mind.
First, they haven't even started this thing yet (maybe you should let something actually happen before complaining about it?)...and second, whatever comes first (and something WILL have to be first), it isn't going to be the last or only. Give the whole thing some time. Logos has well demonstrated their willingness to include anything in their stable that will support itself financially.
While this all sounds interesting, I'm rather doubtful I will end up participating, but I do hope that it adds overall utility to the Logos universe's "skill set".
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First, they haven't even started this thing yet (maybe you should let something actually happen before complaining about it?)...and second, whatever comes first (and something WILL have to be first), it isn't going to be the last or only. Give the whole thing some time. Logos has well demonstrated their willingness to include anything in their stable that will support itself financially.
Very good observations, David [Y]
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Did you all see the twitter post about LME?
Dr. John Walton is here today filming a lecture on Gen 1–3 for @Logos. Awesome things coming, so stay tuned. pic.twitter.com/N7xra58GGZ
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First, they haven't even started this thing yet (maybe you should let something actually happen before complaining about it?)...and second, whatever comes first (and something WILL have to be first), it isn't going to be the last or only. Give the whole thing some time. Logos has well demonstrated their willingness to include anything in their stable that will support itself financially.
Very good observations, David
True, and I for one am not complaining or wishing to gripe about it at all. I'm very excited about this. I'm not saying I'll just purchase this for the sake of it, but I am curious as to see what all Logos offers with it, and anything that would be beneficial to furthering my Christian education, I'll seriously consider purchasing.
A few thoughts on it:
1. The format sounds very exciting and fun. I can't wait to see this in action.
2. I'm not too worried about pricing, and if Logos offers flexibility (like payment plans, etc.), even the icing on the cake. Again, I'm not just going to purchase something just to have it, but any courses I feel I would truly get a major benefit on and that personally to me would be worth the cost, I'll seriously consider purchasing and taking them. If Logos offers "collections" of courses as well at a discount, that could be another selling factor.
3. As for the "bents", I can see no issue with taking courses with professors of different "bents". Would be interesting to broaden my knowledge of how others think, and I can see how Logos can definitely appeal to a broad range of customers this way. What I stated earlier was merely some pointers of how my personal Bible college experience has been.
4. I hope Logos deeply integrates this into the ecosystem (FaithLife, maybe even Proclaim if churches wanted to use the material to teach a church Bible study, etc.), as well as if Logos could team up with colleges and seminaries to offer versions that can be used toward college credit (at an extra cost), then of course I'd be interested in this as well as I deepen my seminary studies.
5. I see this as even a good possible opportunity for me to contribute to later down the road as I work to become an online professor. I'm not qualified enough yet to "teach" on this, but later down the road when I get more credentials under me, I'd have a fun time contributing to this provided Logos would have me.
All in all, I think is is going to be great, and I for one am thrilled and eager to see what's in store. I can't wait to see what Logos delivers with this!
Nathan Parker
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Will video lectures include closed captioning or English subtitles? I am deaf Christian interesting in biblical studies. Thanks.
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Welcome to the forums Edgar. You make a valid point.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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Edgar,
if you look on PrePub the first set of videos say they have CC.
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if you look on PrePub the first set of videos say they have CC.
Where did you see the reference to CC? I can see that the videos are transcribed, but I don't know if that means they're captioned.
Here's the link for others: http://www.logos.com/product/33458/logos-mobile-education-bible-and-doctrine-foundations
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I am not sure if it really CC or an English subtitle. If the Logos Mobile Education programs have CC that would be my factor to sign up the program.
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Thanks.
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Dare we ask the general price range?
Just some quick math:
Average tuition cost in Christian higher education: $7,500.00 per semester.
Average number of classes taken per semester: 4
Average cost per class: $1,875.00
Estimated cost for a Logos Mobile Education course: $469.00 to $619.00
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Hi Paul
Estimated cost for a Logos Mobile Education course: $469.00 to $619.00
Have you seen that the link above includes pre-pub costs for the first LME course?
Currently $999.95 for Bible and Doctrine Foundations (9 courses)
Graham
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Hi Paul
Estimated cost for a Logos Mobile Education course: $469.00 to $619.00
Have you seen that the link above includes pre-pub costs for the first LME course?
Currently $999.95 for Bible and Doctrine Foundations (9 courses)
Graham
That does seem about right when considering distance education. About one third of $3,000.00 for a complete series on a subject.
"As any translator will attest, a literal translation is no translation at all."
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Interesting - I have been watching the LME page to see how many people are signing up for it, and 24 hours ago there was no progress at all on the prepub bar - today it is under development. I assume, rightly so from Logos' perspective, that they have committed to developing this, so why wait for sign ups. Maybe more people sign up if there is something to actually view, people to positively comment, etc.
I too would buy a course or two if unbundled. This is too big a nut to commit to without seeing any of it. I would try a course, and if I liked it try more. This is not the same as committing to a degree program, as I do not financially commit to all of it up front. I pay for courses as I go. I think the price in total for 9 courses is very fair, as with others I don't want to commit to all of them financially right now.
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I'm trying to find out if Logos will offer payment plans for the pre-pub when it ships, so technically I could lock in my pre-pub now, then when it ships, if I can't fork over $1,000 right away, break my payments up into payment plans. If they can do this, I'll probably jump on it. A lot of this I've gotten in seminary, but the additional training would be nice, plus I'd love to be able to get used to learning in the Logos environment.
Nathan Parker
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Average tuition cost in Christian higher education: $7,500.00 per semester
You missed a word: Average tuition cost in American Christian higher education: $7,500.00 per semester.[8-|]
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Edgar,
We don't have any plans for closed captions or subtitles, but we will be including transcripts for each of the HD videos. The transcripts will be organized and built as a Logos resource. We have added headings and subheadings to each transcript making them easy to navigate. The transcript resources will include the entire text of each video plus learning objectives, links to recommended readings in Logos, and assessment questions for each video segment.
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Can we get with some payment options
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And break up the courses. Some I have an interest in others .....
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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How about a video teaser of what the course looks like. Say, 10 minutes of lecture and the way the entire thing integrates into Logos.
This can help some users get over the cost factor. Why not do this for each course. These videos can then be posted to our facebook page, and encourage many to look at who may never see it.
And yes, start breaking up the courses, for those who are not salaried workers within the Church, but may be interested in info on a few of the courses. I'm thinking they can purchase one course at a time.
Mission: To serve God as He desires.
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The lectures are not captioned, but transcripts of all the lectures are included in the text.
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The lectures are not captioned, but transcripts of all the lectures are included in the text.
[H] Could you type your response in braille, please? [H]
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The lectures are not captioned, but transcripts of all the lectures are included in the text.
To me that greatly enhances the value of the courses.
One question/suggestion; Do "enrollees" qualify for academic pricing on other Logos resources? I think it would be a good marketing point.
Logos 7 Collectors Edition
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One question/suggestion; Do "enrollees" qualify for academic pricing on other Logos resources? I think it would be a good marketing point.
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