Seach Logos.com and vyrso.com simultaneously

Chris Lohroff
Chris Lohroff Member Posts: 92 ✭✭
edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Does anyone else find themselves constantly searching Logos and Vyrso for a resource?  Has anyone come up with a way to search both sites at once?  I get that they tend to be different types of books and most of the time it's fairly easy to tell which site a book would likely be on, but when it's not on the expected site I still find myself searching the other in hopes that it's there.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Does anyone else find themselves constantly searching Logos and Vyrso for a resource?

    Yep. 

    Has anyone come up with a way to search both sites at once?

    The best option right now is copy & paste into two tabs. Ugh. [:S]

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,635 ✭✭✭

    To be honest (not normally being in that state), I had not thought of searching Vyrso. Vyrso doesn't work with my Kindle. Usually when Logos draws a blank, I click on the Amazon search.

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  • JT (alabama24)
    JT (alabama24) MVP Posts: 36,512

    Denise said:

    I had not thought of searching Vyrso. Vyrso doesn't work with my Kindle.

    I'm confused... I can't tell if you're telling a joke and unusually failing, or if you are unusually being serious. [:)]

    Are you talking about an eInk Kindle reader, or the Kindle Fire? Vyrso resources will work with any of the Logos apps. (No, not the Libronix ones... that company is out of business). Vyrso resources just get added to your Logos/Vyrso/Noet library. 

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  • Bruce Dunning
    Bruce Dunning MVP Posts: 11,143

    Last week someone from Logos confirmed that he was going to talk to the powers that be about the possibility of adding a search feature to search Logos and Vyrso at the same time. Many of us would greatly appreciate this.

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  • Brian Williams
    Brian Williams Member Posts: 391

    We are working on a solution for featured search results from Logos within the Vyrso search results. We'd mainly highlight a few products that fit the search paradigm. We'll let you know when we are closer to launching the feature!

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,635 ✭✭✭

    Alabama .. I was just illustrating that Logos positions Vyrso as a reader ... my reader (Kindle) doesn't read Vyrso. Ipso Amazon.

    And Brian confirms my thinking ... they don't want me to accidentally find Vyrso books.  I'm sure there's a good reason. Just like they purposely hide Libronix books, the competition is so overwhelming! 

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,978

    We are working on a solution for featured search results from Logos within the Vyrso search results.

    Brian, make sure to reciprocate (is this a word?) this, i.e. bring results from Vyrso to the Logos search results.

    Just last week I bought a resource in ePub format from another site "by accident" - I had searched Logos and found only another resource by this author, and either I forgot to check Vyrso (which happens, even if only rarely) or I did something wrong - I came to think that you don't carry the work and went elsewhere. I definitely would have preferred the Vyrso edition which I learned about later. 

    You probably have usage statistics for those two sites, but I guess that probably many who check Logos won't even know about Vyrso or don't care looking there, somehow mistakenly believing it's all about "Amish Romances" or so. 

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  • Levi Durfey
    Levi Durfey Member Posts: 2,214 ✭✭✭

    It is possible to use google to search both sites simultaneously. Just type your search term into a google search followed by "site:vyrso.com/product/ OR site:logos.com/product/" (minus the quotes). I have that portion in Textexpander as a snippet so I don't have to type it every time.

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,978

    Integ said:

    It is possible to use google to search both sites simultaneously. Just type your search term into a google search followed by "site:vyrso.com/product/ OR site:logos.com/product/" (minus the quotes). I have that portion in Textexpander as a snippet so I don't have to type it every time.

    Thanks for this! This seems to work quite well as a workaround, while lacking much of Logos'/Vyrso's comfort in restricting searches to authors etc.

    Actually, I had thought along the same lines before I posted, however since I didn't direct google searches to more than one site before, I tested it with a search string like site:vyrso.com/product/ OR site:logos.com/product/ schaeffer , since I know that Francis Schaeffer has books published on both platform. However, when I saw no hit for "The Complete Works of Francis Schaeffer" (one of my oldest Logos resources) from Logos.com on the first or second page, I thought this search might be somehow unreliable... On further looking, it shows that Google is right and I'm wrong, since this resource is no longer sold at Logos.com [:(]

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  • Chris Lohroff
    Chris Lohroff Member Posts: 92 ✭✭

    That is a helpful workaround!  Thanks!  It returns the results in Google rather than the prettier Logos search page (with images, prices, and awareness of my current library) but it solves the problem nicely while we wait for a solution from Logos.  Given that they are only going to product some suggested results rather than full results I'm think that this actually might be more than just a short term solution for me.

  • Randy W. Sims
    Randy W. Sims Member Posts: 2,272 ✭✭✭

    If you have your browser set to open new windows in a tab then this (saved as a bookmark) will open a tab each for Logos & Vyrso for the given search phrase:

    javascript:void(q=prompt('Logos/Vyrso Multi-Search:',getSelection()));if(q) { javascript:window.open('http://vyrso.com/products/search?q=' + escape(q) + '&unlocked=no'); void(location.href='http://logos.com/products/search?q=' + escape(q) + '&unlocked=no') }

    EDIT: I misstated. It won't open two tabs. It will replace the current tab with Logos search and open another tab for Vyrso.

  • Allen Browne
    Allen Browne Member Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭

    We are working on a solution for featured search results from Logos within the Vyrso search results.

    Thanks Brian. That would be useful.

    But the reverse would be useful too.

    For example, if I search on Logos.com for Michael Bird, it would be good to know that Vyrso has his book, Are You the One Who Is to Come? the Historical Jesus and the Messianic Question (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2009).

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick MVP Posts: 15,978

    if I search on Logos.com for Michael Bird, it would be good to know that Vyrso has his book, Are You the One Who Is to Come? the Historical Jesus and the Messianic Question (Grand Rapids, MI: Baker, 2009).

    or at least, it would have been good to know that Vyrso carried it prior to its removal from Vyrso and lock-up in one of Logos' The Expensive Baker Boys bundles...

    currently Vyrso only has "Bourgeois Babes" - a nice contribution to the gender complementarism debate which I (unfortunately) own in a kindle version - I found out too late that Vyrso carries it (even for less than I paid at German Amazon [:'(] )

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,635 ✭✭✭

    Thanks NB!  (Although I'll probably buy this one on JungleRiver.com; I try to keep my theology out of my Logos, you know.)

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • fgh
    fgh Member Posts: 8,948 ✭✭✭

    We are working on a solution for featured search results from Logos within the Vyrso search results.

    [Y] but it's the opposite that's most needed.

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