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Yes, And I seem to remember Eph 5:11DAL said:Ever heard of 2 Timothy 4:2?
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DAL said:David Paul said:
Ever heard of Eccl. 3:7?
Eccl. 3:7 does not apply to the proclamation of God's Word - i.e. The Truth. Ever heard of 2 Timothy 4:2? The fact that the forum has guidelines is a different story, because only the software and related things should be discussed, but when the Truth needs to be told, personally, I don't care what the forum's guidelines are, I will tell the truth about Osteen or any other false teacher who sees godliness as a way of gain (1 Timothy 6:5) if the opportunity arises. Other than that, I try to respect the forum's guidelines out of respect for others, even though, to be honest, it doesn't matter how nice you say things, if it doesn't set well with people, they will always chew you up and crucify you and label you as the trouble maker no matter what.
But anyway, just for the sake of re-emphasis: No, Eccl. 3:7 does not apply to the proclamation of The Truth, whether people like it or not; and I mean this in the nicest way possible, so don't feel the need to post questions, rebuttals or objections
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DAL said:Well, you have veered off into an area I cannot comment on...because Eccl. 3:7. But as the verse itself indicates, that will change...in its time and soon enough.
DAL said:Eccl. 3:7 does not apply to the proclamation of God's Word - i.e. The Truth.
Oh...btw...never heard of Jer. 7:16 nor Jer. 11:14 nor Jer. 14:10, 11, 12? Eccl. 3:6.
Odd.
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Kent said:MJ. Smith said:Kent said:
Are we not called to point out false teachings and wolves in sheep's clothing? Highlight error when it appears? Are we to ignore heresies that deny or distort the truth and the person of Christ?
In the right place at the right time and in the correct manner. The forums fail to match the criteria.
Faithfulness to the Scriptural commands should only apply to specific times and places?
Your question distorts MJ's meaning.
Suppose for a second that you were doctor working in a hospital's delivery room. And suppose that a woman came in on a stretcher in the process of giving birth in great agony with various medical complications. Suppose she was holding a book written by someone you think is horribly wrong about the Bible.
I imagine that you would devote your time and energy at that point to assisting the woman with her delivery, not with her theology. Perhaps you might say something to her later, in anther context, but in the moment of her arrival, it is important that you do your job - i.e., to follow the medical guidelines for helping her and her child - rather than point out the errors of heretics.
Likewise, suppose you were a soldier hiding in a tree with another soldier while thousands of enemy soldiers combed the undergrowth below you, intending to kill both of you. That would obviously not be the time or the place to speak up about the theologically loony book you suddenly remember that you saw your comrade reading the day before!
There is a time and a place to attempt to correct theological errors. That place is not the Logos forums, as their owners have made clear in the forum guidelines.“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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SineNomine said:
it is important that you do your job - i.e., to follow the medical guidelines for helping her and her child - rather than point out the errors of heretics.
SineNomine said:Likewise, suppose you were a soldier hiding in a tree with another soldier while thousands of enemy soldiers combed the undergrowth below you, intending to kill both of you.
Doesn't exactly compare with a group chatting on a forum.
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Oh boy, How much further can this thread stray?
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Comon, ST...with a title like "forgive me if I am wrong", practically anything fills the bill. [:P]
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Kent said:
Doesn't exactly compare with a group chatting on a forum.
The principles remain exactly the same, so yes, it does. The matter at hand is a matter of principle, and the principles in question do not change when applied to these different situations.
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Paul C said:It just gets Worser and Worser. !
I'll refrain from making any more posts along the line I was pursuing above.
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Seems to me that life is short, but eternity is a bit longer.SineNomine said:Kent said:MJ. Smith said:Kent said:Are we not called to point out false teachings and wolves in sheep's clothing? Highlight error when it appears? Are we to ignore heresies that deny or distort the truth and the person of Christ?
In the right place at the right time and in the correct manner. The forums fail to match the criteria.
Faithfulness to the Scriptural commands should only apply to specific times and places?
Your question distorts MJ's meaning.
Suppose for a second that you were doctor working in a hospital's delivery room. And suppose that a woman came in on a stretcher in the process of giving birth in great agony with various medical complications. Suppose she was holding a book written by someone you think is horribly wrong about the Bible.
I imagine that you would devote your time and energy at that point to assisting the woman with her delivery, not with her theology. Perhaps you might say something to her later, in anther context, but in the moment of her arrival, it is important that you do your job - i.e., to follow the medical guidelines for helping her and her child - rather than point out the errors of heretics.
Likewise, suppose you were a soldier hiding in a tree with another soldier while thousands of enemy soldiers combed the undergrowth below you, intending to kill both of you. That would obviously not be the time or the place to speak up about the theologically loony book you suddenly remember that you saw your comrade reading the day before!
There is a time and a place to attempt to correct theological errors. That place is not the Logos forums, as their owners have made clear in the forum guidelines.
While many of the differences between denominations are minor and many many more were silly to divide over, some are serious - the deity of Christ for instance, that separates Christian from cultist. Justification by faith being another issue worth dividing over...
I had a friend as a young teen that was not a believer. We walked through a lot of life together, and one day finally as a first year bible student, he asked me "aren't I your friend?". He was of course, but he was appauled that what I believed meant he wouldn't be in heaven and yet I had not tried to proselytize him. He had come to the conclusion that either I didn't care, or I didn't really believe. I rectified the problem, but the damage and doubts had set in. We drifted apart.
Confronting a friend on their theology is (when done in love) an act of love.
Slamming Osteen or whomever behind their back and in public was not loving, and I DO worry about and have prayed for his salvation, and the salvation of his flock. For our statements on that thread maybe we were wrong. There is precedent for pastors becoming saved (Wesley for instance).
All that said, in your hospital analogy - if the book was entitled "Damnable Heresies" and published by "Cultist Garbage Rag Quarterly" - assuming she were conscious I may well share the truth of the Gospel with her in the process of triage and admitting her. Child birth isn't an emergency, and when complications make her survival grim, what is more important? Her physical life? Or her eternal one?
I had a prof that used to challenge us to think with Christ's Kingdom Priorities. That is to say be ready in season and out to give an account for the truth, and to consider every action in light of eternity.
I'm not even going to address your second analogy. Which is also a twisting things a little bit.
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