Personal Books in PDF, MOBI or EPUB
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Hey Richard,
You can sort of import a bunch of things if you have the time and energy to overcome the limitations of making personal books. My suggestion is that you rather gather up your wayward references into something like Calibre and keep Logos for everything else. I do have some things in Calibre and some in Kindle but once you understand Logos, you realize where you should be keeping your electronic Bible treasures.
It's not perfect, and I still I have print volumes and maybe I can't resist a deal somewhere else, but most of the time I much rather hold out for getting it in Logos. After a decade or so, it has proven the least painful way to go.
The mind of man is the mill of God, not to grind chaff, but wheat. Thomas Manton | Study hard, for the well is deep, and our brains are shallow. Richard Baxter
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Richard Bouvia said:
If Logos isn't selling software why did I have to pay $205 to upgrade from 8 to 9 with no extras?
Welcome [:D]
Also wondered about purpose of initial reply in an old thread (since question about upgrade cost does not seem relevant to Personal Books).
Richard Bouvia said:Firstly, as I understand the full feature set of the updates is not the free one offered, it's the basic edition that eventually becomes free, but I will check with an actual employee on that. I had talked to a salesperson and they stated that the upgrades are usually around $400 and that my rate is $205 for just the Upgrade from the full 8 feature set to the full 9 feature set.
Forum etiquette likes each thread having a single focus. Initial reply along with first purpose could have been a new post in Logos 9 Desktop App forum. Feature set comparison => https://www.logos.com/compare/featuresets currently shows four Logos Standard Feature sets (in first quarter next year will be six: Basic, Fundamentals, Starter, Bronze, Full). Caveat: feature comparison does not show which feature(s) use library resource(s) so can use feature well: e.g. Counseling Guide is new in Logos 9 that benefits from several resources for populating Guide content. Base Packages are a combination of Library resources and Feature Set.
Richard Bouvia said:Secondly, I came to this with a search with the same goal as the other poster, I own many purchased items from Ligonier and it would be great to import them all.
Replying to this old thread with interest about importing Ligonier items as Personal Books would have been on topic. Searching Logos.com for R. C. Sproul => https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=all&geographicAvailability=all&filters=author-13238_Author&sortBy=PriceLow finds a number of free resources from the founder of Ligonier Ministries.
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Richard Bouvia said:
If Logos isn't selling software why did I have to pay $205 to upgrade from 8 to 9 with no extras?
They didn't advertise it (because they want to drive sale), but a few months after the launch there will be a free "Logos 9 Basic" with the free Logos 9 engine. A free Logos 9 engine means if a certain feature requires a dataset that you haven't purchased, then you can't use that feature. But improved features that you already owned will continue to be accessible AFAIK, such as the improved Factbook, Reading Plan, etc.
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As this thread is accidentally revived, I just want to say I'm still interested in this feature. I think I heard about this from time to time and they seem to have asked opinion on this shortly after Logos 8 launch. Does anyone know if this is in their road map or is considering about this?
By the way, there's no legal problem here if Logos provide that. (I assume reasonably) Logos will only inject a DRM-free file. If anyone decided to remove DRM on their own (say from a DRM'd ePub to a DRM free ePub then to Logos PBB), it is their responsibility (and depends on country this is legal, such as in the US—consumer has the right to do that.)
And probably it has been mentioned elsewhere after this thread is stale—there exists tool to do this already, to convert those formats to docx first and inject it into Logos. But PDF to docx is still very bad.
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Kolen Cheung said:
But PDF to docx is still very bad.
PDF to DOCX often requires OCR software. [and hours of hand editing to get it to look 'right']
Also a reminder that from FL point of view Personal Books were to be your own writings (sermons, comment, notes, etc) not items imported from 'elsewhere'.
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David Ames said:Kolen Cheung said:
But PDF to docx is still very bad.
PDF to DOCX often requires OCR software. [and hours of hand editing to get it to look 'right']
Also a reminder that from FL point of view Personal Books were to be your own writings (sermons, comment, notes, etc) not items imported from 'elsewhere'.
im not talking about scanned books. there’s still a lot of ebooks released in PDF. Just one example, our church releases our own hymn book, and they also let us download the PDF copy (basically exactly the same as the hymn book if you print it out.)
There are ways to convert PDF to docx. Interestingly MS Word and Adobe Acrobat both has an official tool to do the conversion. But if I did the conversions in any ways, and create a PBB from that, either there’s error or after compiling there’s a lot of gibberish.
it wouldn’t be surprised that PBB is an authoring tool (PERSONAL...), but there’s also a need to compile books that you owned and is not available in your Logos library for various reasons. But I understand that’s a low priority from their end. It wouldn’t hurt to let them know there’s a need from our end.
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No offense intended Richard! My apologies if it came across that way.
If you want all of the new features, you will need to pay. If you aren’t concerned about that, you can wait. You will get the free engine. You will keep your old features and gain <some> new ones.macOS, iOS & iPadOS |Logs| Install
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Kolen why not ask your Church for the Word Copy of this Hymbook?
By Way If you spent tim you can make your Personal Book into a Logos Book...searching is just the Beginner Cource ;-)
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I'm not happy with the books I buy from Logos being in a proprietary format.
I didn't know that until I had already made purchases, otherwise I may have had second thoughts about it.Books that come with the software; fine they can be locked to the program. But not stand alone ebooks!
Just like the car analogy, imagine if Ferrari required you only buy gas from a licensed Ferrari dealer.
Companies like John Deer are losing lawsuits over these kinds of things.I don't think FaithLife is shady but companies like Amazon definitely are.
They don't put DRM on their ebooks to protect them. And they don't tell you that copyright law allows for one personal backup on any purchased digital goods. No, it's to encourage you to buy the hardware (that was made in China by borderline slaves so they don't starve to death; to further enrich some random egomaniacal super billionaire). That way they've forced you into their sandbox. They can put ads in there and take your personal data and sell it. And collect data about book popularity so they can leverage that data against market trends.Let's not forget how cringe it is for a digital book to be the same price as a physical one, or anywhere near it. Where the cost to send a packet of text down a wire is zero dollars. But a factory had to manufacture a paper book and then ship it.
I really don't want to have to jailbreak anything. Forcing people into legal grey areas is no good. I want a company who advertised an ebook on their webstore to give me an ebook when I buy it. With things like software the licensing model is fine. But not with content (unless it is a subscription based streamed service). If an ebook is bought it ought to be owned.
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You'll need to convince the publishers and/or authors. Faithlife is a reseller.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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