The Catholic Encyclopedia

Dan

Has everyone bid on this yet: https://www.logos.com/product/8511/the-catholic-encyclopedia

We need to get this going!

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Rosie Perera

I'm in at $130. I would think half that price ($60 or $70) would be a very good price for this, and that's probably what it's going to take to get some momentum on this. Would people who are interested in it be willing to up your bids somewhat? Ideally to $60 or $70?

Dan

I placed my bid back in 2012 for $70.

Dan Francis

I bid $90, when it first came out on CP.

-Dan

SineNomine

I'm in.

NB.Mick

Has everyone bid on this yet: https://www.logos.com/product/8511/the-catholic-encyclopedia

Since the Catholic Encyclopedia is currently the third highest CP product when sorted by 'bestselling', in fact nearly "everyone" interested in the Encyclopedia and taking part in CP has bid on this. Logos says, I'm in on the going price since summer 2011 (really that long?).

At the current price of $30 it's at roughly thirty percent, so there are three possible scenarios to get it over 100%:

Every currently successful bidder recruits two others who are not currently successful bidders and are willing to pay the going price. For every one who doesn't share the load, the others do more (such as writing forum posts, sharing to their contacts etc). If successful, it will go over 100% at the going price of $30.
Given the bestseller status, this may be a looooooong way to go - basically this may work if Verbum becomes a wonderful success among Catholics and the whole denominational structure of the Logos userbase shifts toward the RC spectrum.
Every currently successful bidder rises his/her maximum bid to $100, at least. If successful, it will go over 100% at a price of $100. Some posters in this thread see a three-digit value in the resource. But since even the next price notch upward from $30 is less than 10%, this is very unlikely to catch on.
Logos lowers the production cost to a third of the current level - either by finding more efficient ways to create the resource (after all, electronic files and a kind of headword structure exist) or by "subsiding" it by calculating differently - actually Logos has put some CP products into Base Packages and paying customers will expect them to ship those regardless of CP; the Catholic Encyclopedia would be a nice part of Verbum packages and I had expected Logos to clear out those lingering CPs in this way. No one can predict such movements.

I'm pessimistic that any of the first two will happen in the near future, and since Bob knows about the situation and didn't take the third solution now when the Verbum 6 packges gave the perfect opportunity, this may linger on for some years to come.

But maybe it's time to think outside the box: The Catholic Encyclopedia is available for free on the internet, and arguably a higher quality resource than Wikipedia. While online-only access is not a satisfactory solution for all users, it is a way that Logos 6 goes for many resources that would be too cumbersome to produce (scans of biblical manuscripts, atlas maps, art, presentation backgrounds, Wikipedia).

The code that allows Wikipedia to be shown, researched, marked up... should be easily adaptable to do the same for the online presence of Catholic Encyclopedia (aside: or the Vatican websites for CCC and other stuff that shortsighted copyright distribution takes away from international customers!) - and I'm convinced that solving this with online access code instead of resource creation will get us the resource much faster than even if it was standing at 100% right now.

So, root for a new feature in Verbum 6.1 (early 2015?) rather than a CP to go over and get shipped years later!

Hapax Legomena

It is already available at books.logos.com.

Robert M. Warren

I made a personal book of it. I found a decent file, but I can't remember where (I'm on lunch at work right now). Certainly, there's no inter-resource tagging, but the headword milestones were fairly easy to implement. When compiled as one volume, it's a big mama at 100MB.

EDIT: Aha, I do remember now: ccel.org.

Deacon Steve

I'm in at $130 also. Been there for a while as well.

Bruce Dunning

I've placed my bid and continue to wait.

Matthew Langlois

Upped bid to $150. Let's get this going folks!!

Peace

Rosie Perera

IMO this should have been included in some of the new L6 Verbum base packages, the way they included some of the other long-languishing CP reference works in BPs, namely A Dictionary of Christian Biography, Literature, Sects and Doctrine, the Encyclopaedia of Religion and Ethics, and the Dictionary of Greek and Roman Antiquities

Dan

> www.ccel.org

Can you download books from www.ccel.org?

S Craig Hufford

Yes. At least some of them. There is also an excellent post on how to include such books in your Verbum/Logos collections:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/85856/601771.aspx

Deacon Steve

Yes. At least some of them. There is also an excellent post on how to include such books in your Verbum/Logos collections:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/85856/601771.aspx

Active link:

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/85856/601771.aspx