Logos 8 Wishlist
What's on your Logos 8 wishlist? It could be fixing an annoying bug, refining a feature you rely on every day, or creating a brand new feature that would address a problem you encounter on a regular basis (but currently have to turn to something outside of Logos to solve).
To think of it another way, what problems would you like to see us solve? They could be problems we're already solving, but need to solve better. Or they could be problems we're currently not solving at all.
What are the most important things we should address to make Logos a better tool for you?
Your feedback doesn't need to be limited to the desktop app. Feel free to include web and mobile feedback as well.
If you've written up feedback in other threads, please link to them here so we can have everything in one place.
Thanks!
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I would like to be able to use Reverse Interlinears on Mobile.
I would like full audio for the Hebrew Bible.
These are my BIG TWO!
Then...
I would like phrase searches to be much simpler.
I would like Lemma in Passage as a full feature, not payable as a separate subscription /dependent on the internet.
As a user in a remote location with poor /intermittent internet access I would like all videos to work offline. I would also like Logos to bear in mind that there are people working in projects in these conditions, people who need all the resources they can get but cannot rely on the internet.
I would like to be able to select multiple resources to plus/minus from Collections - I've been struggling to remove dozens of Targums I can't read from Bible collections, but I have to remove them one by one, it seems.
I would like Notes to be simpler.
I would like resources in French and other languages to be read aloud properly . Currently the only option for French is System Narrator, but that's in English. I could change it to French, but then my whole interface has to be in French and if I wanted to play something in English, I couldn't. Some of us use resources in multiple languages!!
I would like to see the ability to "toggle" between seeing one Bible translation and multiple translations like Bible Works had.
The multiview Resources feature - https://community.logos.com/forums/t/115627.aspx - if you have access to it should help with this
I've been struggling to remove dozens of Targums I can't read from Bible collections, but I have to remove them one by one, it seems.
You could simply add "* -lang:aramaic" to the rule box making sure to keep a space between the asterisk and the minus sign (if you have other rules there, then remove the asterisk). Alternatively (and this is probably better) you could specify which languages you want. e.g. "Type:Bible lang:(English, French, Hebrew, Greek) -series:dead". Here I've filtered out the series "Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls" so I don't have an additional 256 "Bibles" in the collection. This is not perfect and you'll have to individually remove some of the resources that aren't tagged correctly (such as the Hausa bible that's tagged as English).
I would like Notes to be simpler.
The new notes system is in beta!
I've just mentioned in another post here https://community.logos.com/forums/p/128291/992686.aspx#992686 I think the biblearc feature should be up for consideration 
In the desktop app, please add a button to collapse the table of contents. This would make navigation between books of the Bible much faster when switching layouts.
That command hides the table of contents.
I would like to be able to collapse the expanded table of contents, so that I see only the names of the Bible books. Sorry for not making that clear.
I would like to have any tool/ icons which must have Web access to work
to be identified differently from the off line stuff.
fix the speed problem.
off line atlas tool using maps from library.
some way of selecting a small limited of resources which the software
would only use when you activate a icon to switch the software down to
faster lighter version.
thanks
More note indicator symbols/shapes. There are currently seven. More would be great!
More note indicator symbols/shapes. There are currently seven. More would be great!
Agreed. What shapes would you like to see?
Some ideas:
What else?
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Agreed. What shapes would you like to see?
Some ideas:
What else?
I would like to see all the icons that Logos uses to identify elements e.g. the image at the start of each line in the context menu's right side, the document menu, etc. That way, although there are a number of attachment points I'd like but can't have (databases rather than resources) I could still see the range to which my note applies.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
The biggest improve I'd like to see is the end of the indexing. It is an absolute bugbear and I have a 7 core processor.
I can see 2 options being presented to the user of Logos 8:
1. By default, Logos operates as Logos 3 where the search just searched books or collections and displayed results. It was not that slow.
2. Logos allows users to download a separate index file effectively giving 2 files for each book. Logos will have this separate file indexed and the indexer will search these files and display results. This is how it was with Logos 2. It would require more local hard drive storage, but with abundant storage in today's computers, this should not be a problem.
Logos is great, but indexing takes the shine away. That's my 2 cents worth. Thanks.
David
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Logos is great, but indexing takes the shine away.
Isn't the indexing also essential to the links within and between resources? the working of tools and guides?
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
The biggest improve I'd like to see is the end of the indexing. It is an absolute bugbear and I have a 7 core processor.
Since I occasionally complain about Logos & FL (just did in another post), I feel the need to be positive when I can be. Since L4 came out, I've never had the kinds of problems with indexing that I see so many people complaining about. Yes, at times in the past, it has turned my processing to sludge, but if I was doing something else, I could just pause it until I was done and I was no worse for wear. With my new system (quad core i7 w/16g), I barely even know I'm indexing.
Of course, not all is roses. I thought when I loaded L3 on this newer system, it would fly a rocket. Instead, it is like cold molasses--the pop-ups take forever (5-10 seconds), when they were essentially instantaneous on my older system. I don't complain too much, though. Technically, I don't think it's even supposed to work at all.
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I wish that when I highlighted multiple books in the library that I could open them all somewhere at one go.
By default, Logos operates as Logos 3 where the search just searched books or collections and displayed results. It was not that slow.
Logos 3 used a different method of indexing. Indexing was quicker, but searching was slower. It had a separate index for every book. Search 20,000 books and it would need to search 20,000 indexes. I'm not convinced that would be an improvement, for anyone with more than a few hundreds books.
Logos allows users to download a separate index file effectively giving 2 files for each book. Logos will have this separate file indexed and the indexer will search these files and display results. This is how it was with Logos 2. It would require more local hard drive storage, but with abundant storage in today's computers, this should not be a problem
Logos 2 worked in pretty the same way as Logos 4-7. When you added a new resource, there would be a slightly delay on startup while Logos 2 "merged the global word list" or something like that. I forget the exact wording. Merging is the major part of Logos 4-7 indexing, and what takes most of the time.
The reason you probably look back fondly on the 'speed' of Logos 2 and Logos 3 is simply that you had fewer books and there was far less powerful searching. In other words, it wasn't quicker per se, there was just far, far less to index.
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Not in order of priority...
1. A way to finally combine note files nicely
2. Dark mode for OSX Mojave
3. I'd like to see a way of visualizing collections and being able to quickly access books within a collection. Perhaps the ability to drag and drop a collection to the toolbar and then click on it to see the books and click on one to open it?
A way to finally combine note files nicely
Darryl, perhaps you're not aware that Notes are being totally redone (Note Files/Documents are going bye-bye!). You can try out the beta by joining this Faithlife Group.
A way to finally combine note files nicelyDarryl, perhaps you're not aware that Notes are being totally redone (Note Files/Documents are going bye-bye!). You can try out the beta by joining this Faithlife Group.
Is this is incorrect information being communicated?
From what I have heard and what I see in the web app is that notebooks are not going “bye-bye!”. They simply will not be required for notetaking but will continue to exist as an option for those that want to make use of them.
Is this is incorrect information being communicated?
Depends upon how precisely one wishes to use language. The notes file/document structure is going "bye-bye". However, the fact that the physical distinction has been removed does not mean that the user interface makes it appear that the structure is still available for those who prefer to think of Notes in that way. In computers, what is presented to the user is often rather divorced from the physical reality ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
I would add to what MJ has said.
In the new Notes Tool, current Notes Documents will be migrated to Notes Notebooks.
So notes that appeared in a Notes Document will be within a Notes Notebook. One can select a Notebook and just see notes that relate to it.
So a similar mechanism will persist.
One of the goals of the new Notes Tool is that some of the reasons for using Notes Documents will go away but there will still be scenarios where using Notebooks make sense.
Thanks for clarifying MJ and Graham.
I would add to what MJ has said.
In the new Notes Tool, current Notes Documents will be migrated to Notes Notebooks.
So notes that appeared in a Notes Document will be within a Notes Notebook. One can select a Notebook and just see notes that relate to it.
So a similar mechanism will persist.
One of the goals of the new Notes Tool is that some of the reasons for using Notes Documents will go away but there will still be scenarios where using Notebooks make sense.
I agree with two of the other suggestions- improved search and easier to setup reading plans.
But in addition I have something that would make my life easier with the way I use the application. I would like to be able to preserve all of the highlighting when I copy and paste into other documents. It is too much effort on a regular basis to use the Visual Copy editor. I highlight as I read and study and would like to share it. The only way I can do that is to take screenshots.
Thank you.
While I know it has been said that this will not be supported by Faithlife (despite great customer desire) I will throw out again the desire to have personal books uploaded and synced to the cloud and supported on the mobile apps
Phil,
I wish to see Logos 8 for Mac not to switch to discrete GPU for stuffs that is really not graphically intensive. However, If you do need to switch to discrete GPU it will be nice to switch it back to built-in GPU.
I recalled raising this in Logos 4 in 2012 ... and somewhere along the way in one of Logos 5, 6 or 7 it was fixed. Unfortunately, this issue reappeared in the recent update(s). Thank you for your consideration.
See issue raised here:
JK
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I'm ok with the program using as much of my systems resources as it wants. frequently (but not always) more resources is better.Phil,
I wish to see Logos 8 for Mac not to switch to discrete GPU for stuffs that is really not graphically intensive. However, If you do need to switch to discrete GPU it will be nice to switch it back to built-in GPU.
I recalled raising this in Logos 4 in 2012 ... and somewhere along the way in one of Logos 5, 6 or 7 it was fixed. Unfortunately, this issue reappeared in the recent update(s). Thank you for your consideration.
See issue raised here:
I wonder if the GPU can index faster than the CPU?
L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
I'm ok with the program using as much of my systems resources as it wants. frequently (but not always) more resources is better.
I wonder if the GPU can index faster than the CPU?
Hi abondservant,
I can understand your point of view if you are at home or in office and have AC power on all the time with multiple screens. For some of us, where we depend on battery for a good part of day out of office or home. Halving of our battery life for us is a challenge [:(] the point is that it was fixed for a while ... the bug came back only recently. I also noted that some of the panels that triggered switching to discrete GPU are really not graphically challenging like the home page, Psalm Explorer, etc.
I am merely expressing my wish for Logos to fixed this problem [:)]
I am not sure if Logos uses Graphics GPU for faster indexing[:O]
JK
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I understand your point, yes I am on AC power almost all the time, I do have and use a laptop. BUT i let it do the heavy lifting while plugged in.
I wasn't speaking to the bug so much as my desire for the software to make use of ALL my resources to the extent it can. I'm sure there could be check done at start - is this device on battery? if so be gentle. If not, use as much as is available to get that indexing or search done.
L2 lvl4 (...) WORDsearch, all the way through L10,
I was trying to prioritize the NABRE bible, but only for certain Catholic resources like the Catholic Daily Readings and the Catechism. I see that I can select a resource for the NABRE to be the prioritized resource. However it looks like I can only do that for one resource from the drop down list.
Can this be changed so that you can select multiple resources from the drop down list instead of just one? I realize I can probably just drag the NABRE over multiple times and do it for each individual resource but that seems like a pain. I just want the NABRE to be my top bible for certain resources (Lectionary, Missal, and Catechism) and the NRSV to be the top bible for everything else. I would love to be able to make a special collection for these three resources that I can then select from the "prioritize only for this resource" drop down list. OR if it would let me select multiple resources from that drop down list for which the NABRE is the top bible instead of just one. I've had to drag and drop the NABRE over to the sidebar 4 times, 3 times for each individual resource for which I want it to be the top bible, and then once for where I want it prioritized among my top 5 bibles. This should be easier.
Since I'm not sure if my comments from a different thread will be seen in regard to this topic, I'm posting a link here.
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The ability to copy and paste maps from resources to notes.
I think I would like a more elegant user interface. It seems much of the power of Logos is hidden behind knowing the command shortcuts. Finding ways to making those more accessible would be great.
Also I think a more powerful search tool that easily and elegantly makes searching for resources easier. Again a clean graphical user interface can make options much easier to understand.
I think I would like a more elegant user interface. It seems much of the power of Logos is hidden behind knowing the command shortcuts. Finding ways to making those more accessible would be great.
Also I think a more powerful search tool that easily and elegantly makes searching for resources easier. Again a clean graphical user interface can make options much easier to understand.
Hi Steven, I agree with your suggestion. I think the developers are aware of the desire for customers to be able to use the more complex search features more easily.
As a suggestion until then, do you have access to the Bible Browser under the tools menu? If so, have you tried using it? It provides access to many of the datasets using an easy drop down menu. Try it out if you have it until the feature you are requesting becomes available.
Here is a video explaining how to use the Bible Browser: https://www.logos.com/logos-pro?utm_source=blog.logos.com&utm_medium=blog&utm_content=logosprointroducinglogostrainingpage&utm_campaign=promo-logospro2015
Hope this helps.
https://www.logos.com/logos-pro
Wow! What a trove of helpful videos! Thanks, John!
Thanks a lot this is very helpful.
I have a wish for Logos 8:
Include a Spaced Repetition System to the flash cards, that is similar to Anki or Memrise or Brainscape.
Thank you!
In Christ,
jeannie
Include a Spaced Repetition System to the flash cards, that is similar to Anki or Memrise or Brainscape.
I think the Flash Card system could use some TLC. There's such great promise for having such a tool in the Logos Universe, but I know their developers have a ton on their plates. [:)]
Include a Spaced Repetition System to the flash cards, that is similar to Anki or Memrise or Brainscape.
Faithlife does have a Flashcards app for Android and iOS that uses Spaced Rep.
Logos has been my default programme for Bible Study, Sermon Preparation, Devotional Reading, and much more. What more would I like to do:
1. better integration with pdf, mobi, etc.
2. Would appreciate a 2nd "Home Page" or even a "layout section" specifically for worship planning.
3. Could you please consider adding the Bible Project's daily reading plan, integrating their videos at the appropriate places :-)
or even a "layout section" specifically for worship planning.
This has been suggested ... something may have been done in Proclaim.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
or even a "layout section" specifically for worship planning.This has been suggested ... something may have been done in Proclaim.
I would rather something more integrated into my Logos 8, and which is FREE.
I have to admit that my single disappointment with L8 is that it lacks a search builder, which was highly requested.
I have to admit that my single disappointment with L8 is that it lacks a search builder, which was highly requested.
There was not time to design one (let alone code and test) so an intermediate Search templates met testers' requirements for something that could be done. ... with more templates they should be a step forward but not a final solution.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
I have to admit that my single disappointment with L8 is that it lacks a search builder, which was highly requested.
Nick, I'm really sorry we didn't get to this. We did search query templates as a step in this direction, because it was much more achievable within the time frame we had to finish Logos 8. We'd to iterate on search templates and evolve them toward a full-blown search query builder in the future. There's a chance we might be able to get to this as part of an initiative in 2019, but no promises. I hope we delivered enough other value in Logos 8 to make it a worthy upgrade for you. I'm sorry we didn't get to this.
Nick, I'm really sorry we didn't get to this. We did search query templates as a step in this direction, because it was much more achievable within the time frame we had to finish Logos 8. We'd to iterate on search templates and evolve them toward a full-blown search query builder in the future. There's a chance we might be able to get to this as part of an initiative in 2019, but no promises. I hope we delivered enough other value in Logos 8 to make it a worthy upgrade for you. I'm sorry we didn't get to this.
Phil - knowing that this request has not only been heard, but is in serious consideration has made my day. Thank you!
Nick, I'm really sorry we didn't get to this. We did search query templates as a step in this direction, because it was much more achievable within the time frame we had to finish Logos 8. We'd to iterate on search templates and evolve them toward a full-blown search query builder in the future. There's a chance we might be able to get to this as part of an initiative in 2019, but no promises. I hope we delivered enough other value in Logos 8 to make it a worthy upgrade for you. I'm sorry we didn't get to this.
Phil - knowing that this request has not only been heard, but is in serious consideration has made my day. Thank you!
Yes, this is good news to know it is being considered
I would like to be able to choose my own color for the background and toolbars and also the ability to import and my own artwork as a background. A “dark mode” would also be nice.
Steven
It would be a good idea to edit your post and remove the email address.
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Hit the 'More' button at the top of the post and choose 'Edit'
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