Logos needs to take advantage of the new iPad Pro

The Latest iPad Pro has enough horsepower to do the things logos does on the desktop. There is enough enough storage to download all my files. Currently the iPad app is nothing more than a large iPhone app. Logos needs to do more. If I can get the full layout experience of logos on my iPad, I would not need my lap when I travel.

So this is my wishlist for the iPad Pro

1. all my book files on my iPad (like my iMac )

2. fully indexed (like my iMac )

3. all the layouts I have on my iMac

Apple is making the hardware to support this

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Eric Ross

Apple Pencil support for marking up my texts.

John Kaess

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007327#Comment_1007327

I totally agree with both of the above posts. The new iPad Pros have more power than most PCs and Macs, and now havbe more than enough storage. I have a 12.9" with 256 gigs of RAM on order and Logos is the only program i use which i still need my iMac to take full advantage of. The new iPads can fully support everything than the desktop can do, after all, they will be running a desktop equivalent version of full Photoshop in just a few months. Also, support for annotating and highlighting and note taking with the apple pensil should be doable,

Please? Pretty please?

John

Aaron Sauer

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Don Awalt

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007358#Comment_1007358

Agreed. It benchmarks better than the base MacBook Pro, their professional laptop. There is a nice keyboard sold by Apple and several nice third party ones. The pencil as noted is a nice feature. There are two virtually bezel-less versions at 11" and 12.9", plenty big enough for many people. It easily handles 4K video, so Logos videos won't be an issue. It can be maxed out at 1 TB of storage (albeit for some coin 😉). So it is more than capable of handling Logos/Verbum now, I assume the issue with FL will be how many more people buy because this new iPad version exists; IMHO it could be a lot of work to port it to iOS since the Mac version really runs on top of an emulator, so there would be layers galore if one tried to just move existing code to the iPad. We can hope though...

James McAdams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007477#Comment_1007477

I have a Macbook Pro 2015 and I would say that the chances are it will be the last laptop I’ll buy - desktops have already been unimaginable for a while for me and that’s certainly not atypical among my friends. I own my laptop exclusively for Logos.

The confusion I have is that my library is huge - leaving the app open on iOS long enough for it to download my entire library (presumably the screen would need to stay on for the download to happen? I don’t know what restrictions exist on background downloads) and that immediately could be quite confusing for some people - I assume that this is the main reason that the online models are moving ahead so much faster, along with memory concerns that are only now becoming less of a live issue - my iPhone has the same storage capacity as my mac now.

The hardware power-side is clearly important if you clump all versions of the mobile app together, but that’s what we’re hoping to move away from now.

But if the library download thing is as big an issue as I think it might be and internet connectivity is becoming increasingly ubiquitous, I’d say it’s a really hard sell to decide if a full offline experience is worth developing, no matter how much I want it. It’s really interesting to think through all the gains/losses etc. I don’t really have any answers, but I’m gearing my hopes to more incremental changes. It’s not like photoshop where it’s all downloaded in one go and ready to go immediately. But we can hope!

James McAdams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007489#Comment_1007489

This is one of those areas where it’s really interesting to contrast with Logos’ nearest competitor.

They went for a bottom-up approach from the start (very little in the way of features but solid offline experience for what it can do), where Logos seems to have gone from the top down (every feature/resource possible right from the start, with heavy online dependencies).

They’re very different design philosophies and reflected in their desktop apps too. Wondering who can reach the middle-ground (relatively full-featured but consistently usable in any environment) is something I think about a lot. We’ve only just got quick offline lookups, but the kind of in-depth stuff we can do when online is greatly superior - that kind of thing applies in a ton of different areas.

Mark Barnes

Apple is making the hardware to support this

Very few companies are able to bring full desktop experience to the iPad. Apple (worth $1,000 billion) have done with with Pages, etc. Microsoft (worth $815 billion) have got somewhere close with Office, though it's still short of the desktop experience. Adobe (worth $120 billion) will release Photoshop in 2019. But almost no-one else has managed it.

All that is to say, "Don't hold your breath".

Stuart A Weber

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007507#Comment_1007507

So, if Apple has all the money, why don't they make a MAC OS for the iPad Pro instead of waiting for companies like Adobe to come forward like they are doing with full-version IOS Photoshop?

Because they rely on hardware sales...they don't sell MAC OS like Microsoft sells copies of Windows for revenue..and their Macbook sales could tank.

It is Apple that chokes the iPad Pro...and we sheeple buy the Ferrari that never leaves the local town with the 25mph speed limit , because its cool to have...not because we are artists, photographers, or music makers/producers.

That all said---yes--- full Logos on the iPad would be that mountain that I would love for Faithlife to move...a blessing to my daily use beyond measure.

Samuel

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Samuel

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007489#Comment_1007489

But if the library download thing is as big an issue as I think it might be and internet connectivity is becoming increasingly ubiquitous, I’d say it’s a really hard sell to decide if a full offline experience is worth developing, no matter how much I want it.

I think we easily forget that for a lot of the world internet is not ubiquitous and high-speed internet certainly is not. I don't think Logos needs to move all desktop functionality to iOS to have a successful iOS app. In fact, I wouldn't want them to it would be a cluttered app. However, I think the app should be highly capable both on iOS and offline. That's not too much to ask with the processing power and ability of a recent model iPad Pro.

Hanson

Agreed. My iPad Pro has nearly replaced my macbook pro. I would not be suprised if Apple does away with laptops all together. I think this is where the industry leaders are heading A.K.A. Microsoft surface book and google's new (not so great) pixel tablet.

Renan

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Dr. Michael Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013427#Comment_1013427

Right now I get two windows I cannot even choose if the windows are side by side or top and bottom. The display has not improved since the first iteration. Let’s start with three or four lanes and see how that crashes everything.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013429#Comment_1013429

I think this is where the industry leaders are heading A.K.A. Microsoft surface book and google's new (not so great) pixel tablet.

Apple is the industry leader for tablets...

I would not be suprised if Apple does away with laptops all together.

Then you don't follow Apple. They have consistently said this will not be the case... they don't even plan to merge iOS and macOS.

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013638#Comment_1013638

Then you don't follow Apple. They have consistently said this will not be the case... they don't even plan to merge iOS and macOS.

Absolutely.

Nor do they plan to help desktop developers make an easier transition to iOS (which doesn't help Faithlife, of course). What they are working on is making mobile apps easier to transition to the desktop. That's also what Android is doing. Microsoft has already done this years ago, but because no-one actually owned Windows phones, it was largely irrelevant.

Renan

A full transition from the windows/mac version to the web version app.logos.com would also solve the problem for the ipad and any other tablet.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013676#Comment_1013676

A full transition from the windows/mac version to the web version app.logos.com would also solve the problem for the ipad and any other tablet.

Hope that never happens... my internet is not stable enough to desire that the moment internet is required to do basic things in Logos is the day I leave it. The Web app is a fine thing but the point of this post seems mostly to indicate a desire to have a more autonomous iPad experience with all downloadable resources installed on the iPAD. I know this is not a likely thing to happen... I do feel that greater functionality with the downloaded books on the device is a reasonable request and in some small respects FL has moved to do this a bit. Although currently the iOS apps for me are virtually completely unusable. cashing every few minutes. So my dreams of what I want are tempered now by dreams of the apps being stable once again.

-dan

LaRosa Johnson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007507#Comment_1007507

Affinity has done an incredible job with porting both Affinity Photo & Designer to iPad, and they are a much smaller company. So, it can be done [:D] and other smaller companies have done some pretty powerful things as well. A lot really depends on the vision of the company & if they see iPad & iOS as something that can be just as powerful as a Mac/PC

Mark Barnes

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013737#Comment_1013737

Affinity has done an incredible job with porting both Affinity Photo & Designer to iPad, and they are a much smaller company.

That's true. It's equally true that was a brand new product when it was recently launched, designed without any backwards compatibility concerns, straight for desktop and iOS, and without ANY phone compatibility. That's quite a different proposition to a nine-year old (counting just from from L4) desktop application being ported. It's also the case that there are significant advantages to tablet over laptop for powerful graphics software, which isn't necessarily the case for powerful Bible software. (By which I mean it's obvious why I might want to do graphics with a pen and no keyboard. It's less obvious why I might want to do detailed Bible study with a pen and no keyboard.)

Renan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013734#Comment_1013734

Believe me my brother, i live in the third world and my internet is far worse than yours so i would never suggest something that could ultimately drive me crazy. The technology behind those new web apps work caching information the same way netflix does with buffer so we don't need hundreds of gigabytes of space and also we don't need google fiber internet. So it would be the best of the worlds bringing the full experience to anyone, in any device, helping people who want to dig into the scriptures but don't have enough money to buy high end apple devices. It would also reduce development costs since the whole team could focus into a single multi-platform interface.

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1013761#Comment_1013761

Sounds good to me. My house has no cell service and only available internet is satellite based so weather here or on the east coast can knock out my net. I have no issues with the concept of using something different as long as it works fine.

-dan

Kevin A. Purcell

1. all my book files on my iPad (like my iMac )

While there's a tiny number of books that the publisher might not let users read/use on their mobile devices, at least that used to be the case, you can download ALL the books in your library available to the iPad by opening the library page. Then pull down so that the Download All link appears above the right hand side of the topmost book.

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015579#Comment_1015579

1. all my book files on my iPad (like my iMac )

While there's a tiny number of books that the publisher might not let users read/use on their mobile devices, at least that used to be the case, you can download ALL the books in your library available to the iPad by opening the library page. Then pull down so that the Download All link appears above the right hand side of the topmost book.

Yes, but you should not do so.

Dr. Michael Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015790#Comment_1015790

That misses the entire point of my post. I don’t want all my books on my mobile device unless I have the abil to have way more than 2 stinking windows and no tabs

Bill Anderson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015794#Comment_1015794

That misses the entire point of my post. I don’t want all my books on my mobile device unless I have the abil to have way more than 2 stinking windows and no tabs

Yes, it does miss your entire point.

That said, the Logos iOS app right now is not (and perhaps never will be) what Logos is on the desktop.

Part of this can be laid at Apple's feet for their marketing blitz on how the new iPads are more powerful than "computers." I find it ironic that they can say that when they could add mouse support, for example, that would make the iPad in some areas as powerful as a computer. But they choose not to do that. If they did, I might not go looking to other devices for functionality that iPads don't have.

But it works the other way, too. My Surface Go is a great tool because it runs the full desktop Logos app. I have my entire library on my SSD. I have the full functionality of Logos 8. I get access to my PBBs. I can open multiple windows, but the funny thing is that on a 10-inch device I can't read the text in those windows because the screen is too small. I also get lower performance of the CPU on the Go than my desktop computer and the limitations (yes, the limitations) of Windows on a tablet device. Every device has tradeoffs; there isn't one device that does it all.

Dr. Michael Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015796#Comment_1015796

logos can start by giving 4 panes. I used to have a palm device and I would run olive tree on it. Olive tree have me 2 panes and no Bible software has advanced beyond that, in all these years. That is my major complaint with everyone. Olive tree, Accordance and Logos are all stuck and these is no reason that we can’t have a little itty bitty bit more

Dan Francis

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015807#Comment_1015807

Olivetree palm allowed 3 panes at once. And it was very handy.

-Dan

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015898#Comment_1015898

Laridian (PocketBible) allows up to 5, with a switch to choose tabbed 5 (max) or all at same time, as below. Their library is more targeted and the interface not so cutesy. Their desktop is similarly paned.

Their previous version had tabbed, multiple-pane, and then multiple per pane (gesture to switch). That was so perfect. I think the gentleman was trying to simplify to the current. I was sadly non-plus'd.

Dr. Michael Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015904#Comment_1015904

It is sad that they chose to go with the subscription model. I just want to buy books and be done with it. I see no reason that a book reader should have a subscription

Renan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015928#Comment_1015928

It is sad that they chose to go with the subscription model. I just want to buy books and be done with it. I see no reason that a book reader should have a subscription

Jeff Bezos is making tons of money out of Kindle Unlimited so It is a successful business model and i think that's why they are doing that.

https://ebookfriendly.com/kindle-unlimited-ebook-subscription/

James McAdams

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015928#Comment_1015928

It is sad that they chose to go with the subscription model. I just want to buy books and be done with it. I see no reason that a book reader should have a subscription

If you don’t find Connect worthwhile, you can ignore it and purchase outright as before. Kindle offers a subscription service that I doubt I’ll ever use, but I find the free books/Mobile Ed rental etc makes it a great deal for me.

Lester

Agree with everything being said here, we need native I-PAD full desktop functionality as well as Apple Pencil support for Logos!

Kevin A. Purcell

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015928#Comment_1015928

It is sad that they chose to go with the subscription model. I just want to buy books and be done with it. I see no reason that a book reader should have a subscription

Bob P. has repeatedly said they won’t go to sub ONLY. So you can always buy books and keep them, unless they are being dishonest.

DMB

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1022196#Comment_1022196

It is sad that they chose to go with the subscription model. I just want to buy books and be done with it. I see no reason that a book reader should have a subscription

Bob P. has repeatedly said they won’t go to sub ONLY. So you can always buy books and keep them, unless they are being dishonest.

I wonder if publishers may go sub on their own, especially academic. Time passes; things change.

Tony Walker

Since the iPad Pro has been out a little while, curious how those of you with it are enjoying logos on it now That some time has passed

Fr. Nathan R. Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1038955#Comment_1038955

I'm interested in this too, especially with announcement yesterday of the new iPad Air (basically now a lower end iPad Pro). This brings the form factor into the realm of affordability for me, and I'd love it if something like that could become my primary device...but how Logos works will determine that since it is the core of my research process each week.

Robert S Stramski

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1038955#Comment_1038955

Since the iPad Pro has been out a little while, curious how those of you with it are enjoying logos on it now That some time has passed

I'm not really using it....like others have said, It's like using a Kindle or other reader and has minimal features. But I'm glad I have access to all the books! I'm happy overall so not complaining!

Robert

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1042103#Comment_1042103

I'd love it if something like that could become my primary device...but how Logos works will determine that since it is the core of my research process each week.

The right tool for the right job. If your research process is simply reading a bunch, then it would work fine for you. If you need to perform complicated searches, take notes, utilize original language tools, then the mobile app would not be a good fit.

I consider the desktop app for "research study" (and would use another, non logos app for writing). I consider the mobile app on iPad for "reading study" (including making highlights). For that purpose, it excels.

Jacob Hantla

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1007327#Comment_1007327

Apple Pencil support for marking up my texts.

Yes please!

Fr. Nathan R. Hale

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1042131#Comment_1042131

This totally makes sense. I was disappointed as I delved deeper into the mobile app today that there's not a robust "copy Bible verses" tool. I don't need a lot of powerful search features but I do copy a lot of Bible verses in different formats for sermon prep, Bible studies, and so on. That definitely introduces some unfortunate friction if I were to make an iPad Air or Pro my primary device.

Kolen Cheung

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1015807#Comment_1015807

logos can start by giving 4 panes. I used to have a palm device and I would run olive tree on it. Olive tree have me 2 panes and no Bible software has advanced beyond that, in all these years. That is my major complaint with everyone. Olive tree, Accordance and Logos are all stuck and these is no reason that we can’t have a little itty bitty bit more

In case no one has mentioned this yet, there's a way to get around this.

Since there's a couple of Logos clones, namely Logos, Faithlife study Bible, ebooks, Noet.

You can choose 3 of these. Open 2 of them side by side, and than 1 "floating" on the right. Where each gives you 2 panes. So you can have 6 lanes on the display at once.

Or, you can have a "multi virtual desktop" experience. On 1 split screen, choose 2 apps from above. In another split screen, choose 2 apps from above. Now you have each "virtual desktop" having 4 panes and you can use multitasking gesture to get between them.

The limitation is those pane aren't sync'd, and resources download separately. So you need to be prepared on what kind of resources you want from which part of the screens.

But this method is faster to switch around then the native Logos method (that you touch the middle button to show up a virtual spaces and choose resources from there.)

When you use long enough sometimes you'll forgot about this is a trick until you found yourself confused that changing settings on one side doesn't affect the other, etc.

Dr. Michael Wilson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1042247#Comment_1042247

Yes, I regularly open Logos and Accordance side by side to fake 4 pains. It is still lazy to not have 4 lanes or three columns or something

Kolen Cheung

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1042296#Comment_1042296

One could say so, but on the other hand, I don’t see they‘re going to change that. suggestions like this has been suggested when the iPad first shipped (amazingly Logos has an iPad app first the first day iPad is available.)

(And the having a few Logos clone means the side by side method can be used for the same Logos resources, not Logos plus something else. It can be quite useful in some other ways too. Eg I have the Noet app doing the job of a dictionary app where I have some English dictionaries opened and when I need to look up words I can open the Noet app and search immediately (just like any other dict app.) ebooks app for reading plans, have a certain book always ready to be read.)

The only thing really changed since Logos provided iPad app is the screen size and computation power on the iPad (I agree better Apple pencil support is needed, which is a different matter than having a Logos desktop clone available on the iPad.)

But even 12.9” is quite limited (I use it every day for reading, it is not large enough once one starts to partition it.) Even on a 13”/15” MacBook Pro, the screen is not large enough and an external monitor is often needed (in fact my first dual monitor set up is because of Logos.)

And there’s so much misconception around the computational power of iPad comparing to MacBook Pro. People often claim it is as fast or fastest than MacBook Pro. But what does it mean? I wonder for the people quoting that fact, has they look into what algorithms is used in that benchmark and what implication is that (hint: they all involves simple instructions that makes ARM and x86’s difference largely irrelevant)? And also the multi-core score that many people focused on is quite irrelevant for most cases. First, the Hetero-structure of the cores (namely some faster and slower scores used simultaneously) is very difficult to be used efficiently in real world situation. Second, for many perceived responsiveness doesn't quite involved parallel processing; and there's parallelization overhead, that if a certain task isn't long enough the overhead of parallelization will actually slow things down.

I'm not saying I don't dream about having everything doable on the iPad Pro (and I envy those that Logos is the last app they need for that to happen.) But it's just a dream, a nice wish list item, but realistically/practically it just won't happen (I didn't even mention the difficulty around software difference where Mark has briefly mentioned above.) Much of the friction is actually imposed by Apple. They decided unification is not the best experience and the consequence of it is that iPad and Mac needs to coexist, not only to Apple but to the end users as well. I started getting used to the fact that every time I travel I have an iPad Pro and 15" MacBook Pro put side by side hurting my back. (Last I tried to join the unification train it's a complete disaster. Another story for another day.)

ReformedPilgrim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1042319#Comment_1042319

So I have found a way to use the desktop app on my iPad Pro.

Basically I‘m using the iPad as a second display to my mac. I can use the Apple Pencil for highlighting, and have a nice reading experience on a handheld device. And I’m not tied to being in the same room as the Mac. It’s not ideal for travel but it’s so much better than sitting at a desk or having a laptop on your lap.

ReformedPilgrim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1042319#Comment_1042319

One could say so, but on the other hand, I don’t see they‘re going to change that. suggestions like this has been suggested when the iPad first shipped (amazingly Logos has an iPad app first the first day iPad is available.)

(And the having a few Logos clone means the side by side method can be used for the same Logos resources, not Logos plus something else. It can be quite useful in some other ways too. Eg I have the Noet app doing the job of a dictionary app where I have some English dictionaries opened and when I need to look up words I can open the Noet app and search immediately (just like any other dict app.) ebooks app for reading plans, have a certain book always ready to be read.)

The only thing really changed since Logos provided iPad app is the screen size and computation power on the iPad (I agree better Apple pencil support is needed, which is a different matter than having a Logos desktop clone available on the iPad.)

But even 12.9” is quite limited (I use it every day for reading, it is not large enough once one starts to partition it.) Even on a 13”/15” MacBook Pro, the screen is not large enough and an external monitor is often needed (in fact my first dual monitor set up is because of Logos.)

And there’s so much misconception around the computational power of iPad comparing to MacBook Pro. People often claim it is as fast or fastest than MacBook Pro. But what does it mean? I wonder for the people quoting that fact, has they look into what algorithms is used in that benchmark and what implication is that (hint: they all involves simple instructions that makes ARM and x86’s difference largely irrelevant)? And also the multi-core score that many people focused on is quite irrelevant for most cases. First, the Hetero-structure of the cores (namely some faster and slower scores used simultaneously) is very difficult to be used efficiently in real world situation. Second, for many perceived responsiveness doesn't quite involved parallel processing; and there's parallelization overhead, that if a certain task isn't long enough the overhead of parallelization will actually slow things down.

I'm not saying I don't dream about having everything doable on the iPad Pro (and I envy those that Logos is the last app they need for that to happen.) But it's just a dream, a nice wish list item, but realistically/practically it just won't happen (I didn't even mention the difficulty around software difference where Mark has briefly mentioned above.) Much of the friction is actually imposed by Apple. They decided unification is not the best experience and the consequence of it is that iPad and Mac needs to coexist, not only to Apple but to the end users as well. I started getting used to the fact that every time I travel I have an iPad Pro and 15" MacBook Pro put side by side hurting my back. (Last I tried to join the unification train it's a complete disaster. Another story for another day.)

iOS 13 may change some of this

Kolen Cheung

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1045304#Comment_1045304

iOS 13 may change some of this

How might that sentence help in any way? Moreover, given Apple’s secrecy I doubt you really can tell if iOS 13 is going to change the situation. Most of those false rumors are often someone’s wish list items than concrete rumors that has any credibility.

The thread is asking Logos to take advantage of the iPad Pro, assuming its current capability should be unleashed in its Logos app. By referring to something (which you didn’t even list any) that doesn’t exist yet, how can that be relevant to this thread?

JT (alabama24)

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1045304#Comment_1045304

iOS 13 may change some of this

Change what specifically?

ReformedPilgrim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1045308#Comment_1045308

The unification element the user above posted about. Marzipan (one development app for iOS and MacOS) is supposed to be much more prevalent in ios13. If this is the case, Logos may be able to develop a MacOS app that works on iOS or vice versa. We shall see how intertwined the two really will become.

ReformedPilgrim

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1045309#Comment_1045309

My previous post got deleted, but I already use desktop Logos on my iPad Pro. Basically I use the iPad as a second monitor, but I can be in another room. I use the Apple Pencil for highlighting and read my personal books on my iPad. Doesn’t help with traveling but it’s much better than sitting at a desk.

Kolen Cheung

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1045309#Comment_1045309

The unification element the user above posted about. Marzipan (one development app for iOS and MacOS) is supposed to be much more prevalent in ios13. If this is the case, Logos may be able to develop a MacOS app that works on iOS or vice versa. We shall see how intertwined the two really will become.

If you understand Marzipan as it is, it is irrelevant. It will be relevant if one is asking a light weight version of Logos on macOS that function more like the iOS Logos.

And if it is a wishful thinking that Marzipan can benefit the other way around, then wait until that wish to come true before making that into discussion like this. Chances are that ain't going to happen. But who knows? More importantly it's just a waste of time to discuss what a rumored feature (which in this case again it is more like a wish list item rather than a credible rumor, but even if it is credible, it is still rumored and at best available in the future but not now) might benefit in this case, because it is focusing on what is available right now (where I'd argue it is a false assumption to think the current offering in iPad Pro software and hardware really empowered Logos to better use the features it provides.)

By the way given what Marzipan is currently, it will just provide you an inferior macOS software that doesn't respect many of the behavior that defines a macOS app. Not that the current Logos on macOS is respecting many of these behavior though. (So called native macOS app or not.)