Mind Mapping program integration
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Dan,
I use it for creating my outlines. It allows me to get thoughts, illustrations, and "points" onto the map, and then I can arrange them in sequential order. It is very flexible, and allows me to get the content of what will be my outline "out" without having the need to think in a strict linear fashion. This is especially helpful with Logos, as I read through various commentaries on the same section. I've attached a PDF of what a finished product looks like of Daniel 9. After I am done, I can export it into Word and print out my outline for the pulpit.
I haven't used the collaboration as of yet.
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
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so you type thoughts or bits of info in mindmap and arrange them later on, right? As for your "illustrations" or longer "arguments": do you just "know it" or do you attach a note file or link or something? Or once arranged and exported, do you fill in the Word sermon with more extensive notes made in Logos?
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I've attached a PDF of what a finished product looks like of Daniel 9.
Nicely done. excellent example.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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so you type thoughts or bits of info in mindmap and arrange them later on, right? As for your "illustrations" or longer "arguments": do you just "know it" or do you attach a note file or link or something? Or once arranged and exported, do you fill in the Word sermon with more extensive notes made in Logos?
Sometimes I rearrange, sometimes I can think "linearly" (in outline) fashion. The Mind Map gives me the flexibility not to worry about it as I go. (How many times have I been frustrated by an outline that had a "1" but no "2" [:D] )
I usually do not fill in any more than that level of detail in my outline. I like to be able to preach "extemporaneously" while still being organized. I don't write out a manuscript, or want to constantly be referring to detailed notes. So I rely on my memory and ability to "flesh out" a point during my sermon. Here is an example of an actual outline I take into the pulpit. Almost always it is two landscape pages cut in half (into four half sheets).
Fred Greco
Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
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I have been mindmapping my sermons for about 6 years. When I used Windows I used an excellent program called MindGenius which is very intuitive. Since November I've been using a Mac and settled on a program called MindNode. This is less intuitive but is still pretty good. Here's an example from one of my recent sermons:
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so you type thoughts or bits of info in mindmap and arrange them later on, right? As for your "illustrations" or longer "arguments": do you just "know it" or do you attach a note file or link or something? Or once arranged and exported, do you fill in the Word sermon with more extensive notes made in Logos?
Sometimes I rearrange, sometimes I can think "linearly" (in outline) fashion. The Mind Map gives me the flexibility not to worry about it as I go. (How many times have I been frustrated by an outline that had a "1" but no "2"
)I usually do not fill in any more than that level of detail in my outline. I like to be able to preach "extemporaneously" while still being organized. I don't write out a manuscript, or want to constantly be referring to detailed notes. So I rely on my memory and ability to "flesh out" a point during my sermon. Here is an example of an actual outline I take into the pulpit. Almost always it is two landscape pages cut in half (into four half sheets).
Thanks! I have recently started experimenting with the two column landscape. I like it.
I have just decided to dive into MindManager this last week. Am using it for time/task management, organizing elements of particular tasks, even thinking of ways to use it for study and now, sermon prep. Baby steps, but the more i use it the more I like. I also got MM8 with non-profit discount. And I like it much better than MM7pro. I think their support is a bit lacking. And their web page stinks. (did they even think of using a map to figure that out?? lol) Graphics wise they lack. But the intergration with Outlook and PPT and all (and embedded web browsing) is pretty awesome.
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I have been mindmapping my sermons for about 6 years. When I used Windows I used an excellent program called MindGenius which is very intuitive. Since November I've been using a Mac and settled on a program called MindNode. This is less intuitive but is still pretty good. Here's an example from one of my recent sermons:
I see how you have arranged your thoughts. Have you tried using graphics as visual cues, or preaching straight from it?
Have you seen NovaMind? It is primarily for Mac.
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Dan
Yes, I did try NovaMind but, for me, it was less flexible than MindNode. I haven't used graphics, though of course, the ancient rhetoricians taught their students to use mental visual images to memorise their speeches. I'm more a 'words man'. Words function as mnemonic pegs for me to access what is behind them (in my mind). The threads allow me to stay on track in my sermons.
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My ears started burning as soon as I heard "MindMap". I've been using MindManager from MindJet since it was the first commercial tool for mind mapping.
I agree with Dan, MM has worked at integrating their program with Microsoft tools, but I have a running complaint that the integration isn't as clean as it needs to be for me. Nevertheless I use it for everything I do.
Mindjet has recently upgraded their web export feature so I've been playing with that. I've been experimenting with building large complex maps and turning them into a web site so I can view and share them through a web browser. You can see this in operation and get an idea of how I use some of the features in MM by looking at my analysis of 1 Peter here. By clicking on lines in the map you will be taken to a text version of the map that has detail hidden in text notes associated with each node. I haven't gotten the whole thing working as nicely as I'd like, but you might get an idea of what's possible. I have maps like this for other Bible books as well. I use Logos to research and then move notes to MM.
One of MM's problems is that they don't have a low cost entry solution. Here's a few links to other tools. I don't know much about them, but have been intending to evaluate them.
Have a great day,
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Gentlemen (I don't think there were any ladies on this thread):
Here's the deal. I have built extensive connections between MindManager 8 and Logos 3. You can see the documentation in the attached PDF (This system won't allow me to upload a .mmap file, but I can send it to anyone who'd like to see it). Use Acrobat 9 to view this file.
Here's a quick rundown of the various tools:
- "Smart Tags" in MindManager: similar to the Smart Tags for MS Word. You can import the text of a verse, link to it, jump to it, etc.
- Importing LDLS files into MindManager; bring note files, prayer lists, word lists, etc., into MindManager
- Sending info to MindManager from LDLS; from within Logos you can send data to MindManager, such as highlighted text, search results, words with all the "tags", and notes
- Smart Map Parts: Keylink and Search: From within MindManager you can run a Logos search or keylink and bring the results into MindManager.
- Keeping Notes in MindManager: From MindManager and from Logos, you can create Logos notes that link directly to an item in a MindManager map--a great way to extend the Logos notes system.
But alas, Logos has not opened up the API for Logos 4--so this stuff only works in Logos 3.
Let me know if any of you are interested in seeing more.
Steve Kaminski
Steven Kaminski
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I'm not sure how you guys got such nice copies of maps inserted into your posts so I'm including a pdf of an Acts map I made.If anyone wants the MindManager8 file itself I'd be happy to email it to you. I have used it for a handout and projection during classes.
Have a great day,
jmac0 -
Here's the deal. I have built extensive connections between MindManager 8 and Logos 3.
Whoah baby! I was wondering if this was possible. I'd love to get your files to try and make this work. It could save me a lot of time.
BTW Acrobat 9.3 said your pdf file was damaged, but it repaired it. Odd. I'm off to lead a small group so I'll look at it later.
Bless you!
Have a great day,
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Hi to those of you using Mind Mapping software with Logos. Would you consider saving your work as a pdf, which can be done in Mind Manager, so the rest of us could open and experience graphically what you are talking about. Mind Manager (7, which I have) graphics are powerful tools for aiding the eye and the brain functioning.
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(I don't think there were any ladies on this thread):
Yes, there is: MJ. And even if they don't post, they may read! [8-|]
I am quite conflicted about this exciting news: I don't use L3 much anymore, for one. Well, not at all, to be exact, but I still have it operational. Secondly, learning this makes my brain hurt! But on the other hand, I would LOVE to have integration of the two, the more I learn about MM8, the more excited I get. But I am an infant. I would think your application would be great for Bible study and the like, right? Teaching a class, etc.
I don't know what API is, but I would definitely make a harder effort to learn all the above for MM8 if there was some way to integrate.
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I'm not sure how you guys got such nice copies of maps inserted into your posts so I'm including a pdf of an Acts map I made.If anyone wants the MindManager8 file itself I'd be happy to email it to you. I have used it for a handout and projection during classes.
for some reason, this map was not interactive. Yes, please send it to me at dustandbreath AT sbc global Dot net.
Question: where did you get the little graphics? I don't see those in my MM8 selection. I must be missing something simple. But I was disappointed with the graphics.
Buzan's has much more, but I like the functionality of MM8 a little better right now.
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Steve, if you don't mind, go ahead and send that over, too. I might get ambitious . . .
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Gentlemen (I don't think there were any ladies on this thread):
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Gentlemen (I don't think there were any ladies on this thread):
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Hey, Ms. Wrong (lol, that sounds kinda funny), I already came to your defense above! [{]
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I already came to your defense above!
That you did. Thanks.[:$]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Gentlemen (I don't think there were any ladies on this thread):
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Hey, Ms. Wrong (lol, that sounds kinda funny), I already came to your defense above!
Ms. Wrong #2
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Gentlemen (I don't think there were any ladies on this thread):
Wrong
Hey, Ms. Wrong (lol, that sounds kinda funny), I already came to your defense above!
Ms. Wrong #2
lol, of COURSE you are in this, how could I forget to mention you???[:$]. I blame it on old age. She was the more recent poster, and my memory could not go much beyond that . . . .
Great to have you appear here again!
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Maybe one of use could keep track of the gender of the poster's to this thread in mind mapping software so we can all be sure to stay on the same page and so that no one gets forgotten. :-)
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Maybe one of use could keep track of the gender of the poster's to this thread in mind mapping software so we can all be sure to stay on the same page and so that no one gets forgotten. :-)
Folks,
What about choosing titles that address everyone? Cf. Galatians 3:28. Then we can keep our eye on the ball – in this case mind-mapping! (Mind you, I love the wee asides in threads. They make things so personal and inject a bit of humour and humanity into what might otherwise become just techno-babble.) Then we can have fun while we learn from each other.
Every blessing
Alan
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I just downloaded "Freeplane" which is the successor to "FreeMind" evidently.
It's cool...and it works well...now I just have to learn to use it!
Robert Pavich
For help go to the Wiki: http://wiki.logos.com/Table_of_Contents__
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What about choosing titles that address everyone? Cf. Galatians 3:28.
so, you are recommending we switch to the TNIF version, eh? Today's New Inclusive Forum . . . [A]
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What about choosing titles that address everyone? Cf. Galatians 3:28.
so, you are recommending we switch to the TNIF version, eh? Today's New Inclusive Forum . . .
Naw! Haud yer weesht! I wiz usin' the Nearly Infallible Version. Ony thin' else is jist havers! Min' you I cuid hae used the guid Lormier Scots version, which I hae richt by ma side.
"There is naither Jew nor Greek, slave nor freeman, male an female amang ye, for ye ar aa ane in Christ Jesus."
FYI William Laughton Lorimer (1885-1967) was born at Strathmartine, near Dundee (about two miles from where I was brought up) and spent most of his life 1929- 1955, as Lecturer, Reader and Professor of Greek at the University of St. Andrews. He also made a substantial contribution to the Scottish National Dictionary; during the last ten years of his life he also translated the New Testament from Greek into Scots, which was published after his death by his son in 1983. It is one of the real treasures of my library.
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I wiz usin' the Nearly Infallible Version.
I knew a guy whose dad was on the translating committee for the NIV, and his family used to jokingly call it the Never Inaccurate Version. [:)]
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Here's the deal. I have built extensive connections between MindManager 8 and Logos 3.
Steve,
I looked at your site and couldn't find where I can download your tool. I'm very interested in trying it since I am constantly copying and pasting from L3 into MM8.
Have a great day,
jmac0 -
I'll try to put some stuff up on my site this week (I've had a busy weekend and haven't been able to finish the page yet).
Steven Kaminski
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Steve,
I am thrilled to find another Mind Manager user. As Jim said, I would be most appreciative of receiving your MM files in either MM format, preferably or even pdf format,
Your work could provide a base for me to build on, where needed, and save me a lot of time and effort in developing that which you already have,
I don't know how you would know what email address to send them to as I have not done it in the Forum. Is there a way for us to exchange email addresses without publishing it to the Forum World?'
Thanks,
Bi
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