where to start with greek/hebrew?

Great question.

Can't speak for Hebrew. My advice would be to pick one or the other. And assuming that you are thinking more than simply running the bible word guide, I'll give some thoughts based on my expirence with Greek, if that is ok?

Firstly, I am in the same boat as you. Whilst I have an undergrad in Theology I dropped out of the Greek module. But in recent years have begun attempting to learn again. Others can probably offer more practical advice, but as a fellow traveler, here is what I have found so far. 

Here's how I've been teaching myself Greek. 

1. A good flashcard app. Forget the Logos one, it is rubbish! I use Quizlet and this study set (https://quizlet.com/_4ju3zy) which covers 221 most used NT words and some grammar terms. 20 minutes a day - drill drill drill. That's been the least glamorous side of learning, but is essential. You simply will not get anywhere if you don't do this bit.

2. A Greek NT (I use the SBLGNT but any will do).  

3. A decent lexicon. No need to fork out on BDAG - it will probably be too advanced for you anyway. I use the Louw-Nida. 

4. A morphological visual filter. This is really helpful as it helps you work whether you are looking at a noun or verb straight away before you've even learned any ending forms. 

5. Morphology Charts interactive. for working out all those tricky endings. 

6. Long slow practice. I set up reading plans and then aim to translate a verse a day working in manageable chunks for the GNT. EG. John 1:1-21, Galatians 1, The Sermon on the Mount, etc. There is a helpful discussion here (http://www.ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1842) that list the books of the GNT by the ease of access.

As to the actual words, terms, etc. (eg. Lemma, root, etc.) I'd suggest that you check out the Bible Greek Study videos by Bill Mounce. Once you've done those, you might want to, pick up his Basics of Biblical Greek set and begin working through it (other introductions are available). 

FWIW, I've tried the MobileEd Greek 101 course but failed to complete it. It assumes that you have a Platinum base package, and if you don't you are unable to progress as some of what it assumes in later videos are taught in the further readings. Which, are inaccessible without Platinum. Not great really since it is marketed as a 101 course.

Finally, some advice from someone only a year ahead of you. I had to drill into my mind along with my vocab that the goal in learning Greek is devotion and faithfulness.

• Devotion in that I am growing in Greek to grow in my relationship with the Lord through his word, not to grow in knowledge to win arguments. Once I've translated my verse/unit and noted any textual/translation observations, I force myself to write some devotional observations, an application, and a couple of lines of prayer-journalling. 
• My goal is to be faithful, not original. If I come up with an obscure translation of a word or verse that none of the major translations use then I assume I am wrong and start again. I never assume that I have discovered some new angle on the verse/word/chapter/book. That way be dragons. 

Any help?

The way to go is https://www.logos.com/product/49819/mobile-ed-learn-to-use-biblical-greek-and-hebrew-with-logos-6 

These courses teach you to use the tools in Logos to get to those nuggets in the biblical languages without the years of memorizing vocabulary and learning grammar. 

Hi, Landon. I would seriously consider Biblical Language Center's Live Video Classes. You won't regret it. There's a special discount for a husband and wife (or any other two from the same household) taking classes together. You can also get a discount from former students. Feel free to send me a private message via faithlife.com. (As an aside, I've greatly appreciated and benefited from James White's ministry as well!)

Here are some of my related posts for whatever they're worth:

http://ibiblio.org/bgreek/forum/viewtopic.php?p=30940&sid=3c1251fdcd99dd3a03376cd44492b6a6#p30934 

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/151448/927046.aspx#927046 

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/152646/930616.aspx#930616 

https://community.logos.com/forums/p/76863/929148.aspx#929148 

May God bless you and your wife in your studies! It'd be awesome to learn together.

While the recommendations are spot on if you really and truly want to learn the original languages.  These two books will probably give you what you want as far as being able to read commentaires and understand other people's arguments better.  Having said that, and I say this as a linguist who is more than aware that in any translation meaning is both added and lost...if you have to make your argument based solely on the original language, it probably isn't a very strong one.

https://www.logos.com/product/40499/greek-for-the-rest-of-us-2nd-ed

https://www.logos.com/product/34172/hebrew-for-the-rest-of-us

Have not tried it myself yet, but I've heard good things about the BibleMesh greek program: https://courses.biblemesh.com/greek/greek-first-steps-reading-1-bundle

You can make greek/ Hebrew language easy by practicing on a regular basis, by joining a group of language experts online. Vocabulary collection
must be solid for better conversation, so do practice for it. Thank you.

Even truly understanding things such as lexicons and root, lemma ext,?

A Lexicon is a dictionary. Lemma is the dictionary form of a word. Root is a grouping of lemma's.

Greek and Hebrew modify (conjugate) word spelling to show grammatical usage. English tends to spell possessive (genitive) use different while using same word form for other grammatical usages. Some English Grammar resources to consider:

• English Grammar to Ace New Testament Greek
• English Grammar to Ace Biblical Hebrew
• English Grammar for Bible Language Students
• Grammatical Concepts 101 for Biblical Greek: Learning Biblical Greek Grammatical Concepts through English Grammar
• Grammatical Concepts 101 for Biblical Hebrew

My favorite Logos & Verbum feature is visual filter highlighting so can "see" range of Greek verbal expression in appropriately tagged resources (plus more). Logos Wiki has => Examples of visual filters that includes links to forum threads => more inductive symbols and How to identify words added by translators in ESV using Visual Filter?

Screen shot shows Propositional Outlines with many visual filters: Greek Discourse plus precepts and Greek morphology (did not have Anarthrous enabled).

Thankful for free Basic and Verbum Basic including two Bibles with Reverse Interlinear tagging so can use visual filters to "see" nuanced Greek verbal expression.

Anarthrous use in Greek shows quality. Some anarthrous use has finger pointer aspect from preposition phrase. Definite article also has finger pointer aspect. An example is 1 John 4 verses 8 and 16 where English "God is Love" translates "The God is Love" where Greek grammar shows "The God" (finger pointer) is being Love (quality). Present tense verb shows continual action in present time. Active reflects state of reality.

If Greek had definite article on both sides of verb εἰμί then grammar would show complete equality. Since definite article is present for God while lacking for Love (anarthrous), then Love is a quality of "The God"

Since visual filters can search and show aspects of Greek grammatical usage, another resource to consider is Chapman's New Testament-Greek Notebook or Greek New Testament Insert

Note: Philippians 4:4-8 has six verbs in the imperative mood.

Hebrew is a bit different than English: e.g. opposite direction for reading. Most Hebrew words have a three letter consonant root. Lexham Analytical Lexicon of the Hebrew Bible includes Bible Senses and Greek alignments

Keep Smiling [:)]

These lectures are awesome and you can pace yourself. They follow the textbooks and workbooks of Basics of Biblical Greek and Hebrew. Very well done: https://www.logos.com/product/34026/zondervan-biblical-languages-video-lectures 

DAL

Hi Landon,

I'm late to the party so you've probably already made your decision about the resources you should purchase but, as a fellow layperson with an early interest in the original languages I offer you my view on the matter. Before I took the plunge into a serious study of the languages I found the Hebrew-Greek Key Word Study Bible edited by Spiros Zodhiates to provide a very helpful introduction to the keywords of the Bible from a theological perspective. Once I used this as my main study Bible for a couple of years and saw that my interest went beyond a mere passing one I started building my Logos library of OL resources. Of the various approaches mentioned in this thread, I would recommend the Mounce and Van Pelt video and Hebrew and Greek resources. These will provide you with a near classroom like exposure to the languages.

I'm still a neophyte when it comes to the languages and my unfulfilled desire is to take seminary level courses in Biblical Hebrew and Greek. I wish you well on your journey. 

Landon, since you already do Mobile Ed you should start with the courses for learning the language Mobile Ed produces. You should also acquire Zondervan's courses that teach Greek and Hebrew and the videos you can also acquire. That's four different instructor's (2 Greek, 2 Hebrew) teaching first year grammar which will give you a foundation for greater studies later. Be consistent and help each other. It is possible to learn the languages using the bible software. But it will take time and consistency. Enjoy your studies.