FEATURE REQUEST - DATE PICKER for Lectionary on Home Page
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For those who would like multiple readings listed on the card... how far in advance do you usually read? What is your primary use case for accessing different dates' readings from the Homepage?
I swear I posted a response that disappeared into thin air. From the question, I am not sure you understand what I was trying to point you to in the examples:
- On a given liturgical date you may have a choice of what to celebrate e.g. Thanksgiving or the saint of the day
- Once you have chosen what will be celebrated you may have multiple services - vigil, daybreak, during the day - all of which may be used
- Once you know what you are celebrating and for what service, you may have a choice of reading sets identified by a lectionary number
- Once you have it down to a lectionary number, you may have a choice of long/short readings and alternative readings.
- You are now down to the 2-22 readings for the specific service.
Thanks for the clarification - my thought (which is what Fr. Roza suggested) was that the down arrow would list the different feasts, and could list as well the different services (vigil/etc.) of those.
The card would then update to show the appropriate readings.
If there are too many to list on the card, we could either utilize the "+" symbol (shown on the lower right in the mock-ups), in which case a pop-up would show all the readings for that feast/service, or (pending on if it is possible with how the UI is coded), the card could "grow" vertically to a lot for the necessary space, creating more of a masonry grid (like the lower part of the dashboard) vs. a uniform grid.
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Two more thoughts before I head to bed:
1) it was mentioned being able to select between lectionaries - I assume if we have more than one lectionary in our library, we could create more than one lectionary card, that way our home page could show different lectionary cards? The name of the lectionary on the card could also be a link that would allow you to select/switch between the owned lectionaries (and personal ones).
2) while I know “cards” aren’t really designed for this, in the cases where there are more readings to list then vertical space allows, a subtle scroll bar could appear on the side of the card to scroll down to see more readings. This would keep the card height consistent without being constrained by the vertical space.
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I do not have strong opinions on how the card works - only that it handle all lectionaries not just the Western 1 or 3 year one.
My personal preference would be that the card ,which is the quick-glance, emphasize the choice of what is being celebrated over the readings ... and that choice of reading groups (lectionary number) be relegated to the lectionary layout. Stronger, however, is my preference that those with preaching responsibilities have their interests take preference over those with teaching and devotional interests.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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1) it was mentioned being able to select between lectionaries - I assume if we have more than one lectionary in our library, we could create more than one lectionary card, that way our home page could show different lectionary cards? The name of the lectionary on the card could also be a link that would allow you to select/switch between the owned lectionaries (and personal ones).
I also assume one lectionary=one card ... at least until Liturgy of the Hours is better supported. But there are some interesting quirks on this that if an Anglican were to complain about, I would reconsider. But as long as it doesn't bother them, it doesn't bother me ... It also might become an issue with support of the Narrative lectionary.
2) while I know “cards” aren’t really designed for this, in the cases where there are more readings to list then vertical space allows, a subtle scroll bar could appear on the side of the card to scroll down to see more readings. This would keep the card height consistent without being constrained by the vertical space.
This is where my computer nerd background causes me to say "whoa, slow down" ... what you say makes sense until you start carrying it across a variety of screen sizes and consider touch vs. mouse vs. .... It's well worth throwing out ideas but one needs to spend as much time figuring out why they might not work as one spends on what problems it solves.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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only future dates on the Home Page e.g. when someone build the Season of Creation lectionary as a shared PB, there is no need to build in prior dates ... and the season only includes 4 Sundays of September ... but one needs to be able to see them in advance for planning purposes.
For someone that does not normally use the Lectionary function being able to go back to at least last Sunday's reading might be useful. For example that user remembers how a reading last Sunday affected them during church but what was the reading? Yes, most of us can use the full tool and find it but what about the novice user?
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For someone that does not normally use the Lectionary function being able to go back to at least last Sunday's reading might be useful. For example that user remembers how a reading last Sunday affected them during church but what was the reading? Yes, most of us can use the full tool and find it but what about the novice user?
You may have misunderstood what I meant. Recently a user from Europe build a personal book for the 2018-2019 liturgical year's lectionary for his country. He cannot get it to show on the home page without entering a date of today's date or earlier. Germany, for example, is starting a new modified lectionary for the 2018-2019 year. They should be able to start it on the First Sunday of Advent when it takes effect. Yes, one needs to be able to see prior entries, but one shouldn't have to invent prior entries.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Faithlife, has there been any more progress/word on this?
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Chris K,
Yes! I've been in dialogue with our dev team and we're aiming to have something to announce soon.
Stay tuned....
--Craig
Craig St. Clair | Verbum Product Manager |
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Awesome! Thx!
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That will be great, ie the Date Picker, I hope it makes it to all the Logos strands.
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Mike
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