First Fruits of Zion Resources

Nathan Parker said:

Since Logos is venturing into Messianic Jewish resources (finally),

FL have had these resources for a long time, it’s just the compilation of them into base packages is a long time coming.

Nathan Parker said:

I'm curious as to what Logos users think of resources from First Fruits of Zion (Messiah Magazine, Messiah Journal, Torah Club Commentaries, etc), and if any of their resources would be a good addition to Logos if Faithlife could secure licensing?

I would be interested to see these in Logos, thanks for raising the possibility Nathan.

Agreed it’s good to have these packages on offer,

I encourage you to keep pursuing your studies Nathan, keep pursuing to better know God through your study of the scripture and may this lead you to bring glory to His name through your life.

I to agree this would be a great deal

Hi Nathan,

For me, your suggestion is a heart cry—a daily need. I have a huge amount of FFOZ literature on the shelf behind me, and Logos in front of me. It's like I'm in the cockpit of a modern plane with everything I need at hand... except that I repeatedly have to leave the cockpit and go to the back of the aircraft to look through the volumes of a hardcopy encyclopaedia to get some crucial information before I can fly on.

I did suggest a Logos edition to one of the main FFOZ leaders (TJ) who responded that cost of reformatting their literature is a barrier. Nevertheless, other publishers manage to do so, presumably with profit. Perhaps it's a favourable time for FL to approach FFOZ?

Every blessing,
David

Lawrence Espinosa said:

I would love to see FFOZ in Logos.   You can already download most Of the books PDF and to add Torah Club would even be better. The cost maybe high since Torah Club is already expensive as I got all my materials via eBay which also included the Audios for good prices.  There are so many other books and materials that can be added.  For those who want to learn Hebrew, the best resource I found and was taught with was “The First Hebrew Primer” by EKS Publishing and i also have video teaching from the book as well.  Then we cannot forget others resources like Bill Cloud, Dinah Dye, and many others I can name.  I am happy that logos does have some Messianic materials  it is very light to what I have on My book shelves.

This is what I mentioned in another recent post about the term Messianic...it tends to be a catch-all for all kinds of beliefs, some of which are incompatible. While FFOZ and Bill Cloud both make use of the term, it is a mistake to think they are on the same page. Messianic Judaism and Messianic Christianity are significantly different animals in the taxonomic matrix. But I've beaten dead horses before and have gotten little return for the effort. I don't mind whatever being available in Logos, and both of these have been requested long before this thread, but I sure would like there to be some restraint when it comes to throwing all of these things into the same basket.

It's still so frustrating that nothing seems to be happening in this regard! I have all the Torah Club volumes on the shelf, but there's nothing like fast access to a wealth of commentary I have in Logos. I would use TC much more if it were in Logos.

Joe Bergen said:

This is a must resource for a persons library to be complete and gain valuable insights into Messianic Judaism. Has anyone Called yet to see if they are willing to add them?

I don't know if FL has ever tried, but I suspect that any potential resistance would be on the side of FFOZ as opposed to FL. That said, FL tends not to push too hard for anything "unusual" unless there is a tipping point of sufficient verbalized interest. Also, the arena for making such suggestions has moved from the forum to Feedbear, a community polling/interest site that FL utilizes for such matters. If you go there, you can make the suggestion yourself and then return here and gin up whatever support you can muster to buttress your cause. If enough people add their support, maybe FL would get the ball rolling, assuming FFOZ would be compliant.