JEDP in Logos

Is there an easy way to color the texts in Logos so that one could know which passages by color fit the JEDP docunmentary hypothesis?

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    One of the older OT's shipped last year (not at my pc) was coded for JEPD. The issue you'd have is 'which JEPD hypothesis' (it's a theory; the assignments vary), and recognition the coding is at word/phrase level, not verse.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    Exactly. This is what I have found myself. Variegated theories with consensus being hard to establish and follow.

    Is there an easy way to color the texts in Logos so that one could know which passages by color fit the JEDP docunmentary hypothesis?

    This is something I've been studying recently, and I'd love to see something like this. Perhaps it could be done with a visual filter? Unfortunately I don't know anything about those.

    In my present studying, I use The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text, Francis I. Andersen; A. Dean Forbes. It's tagged according to Eissfeldt's version of the Hypothesis. I hover over the text, and it tells me the source. Coloring to differentiate the sources would be much more convenient and useful.

    Can a passage list be made of all of J then E then P and can each list be color coded using a highlighter function?

    Is there an easy way to color the texts in Logos so that one could know which passages by color fit the JEDP docunmentary hypothesis?

    This is something I've been studying recently, and I'd love to see something like this. Perhaps it could be done with a visual filter? Unfortunately I don't know anything about those.

    In my present studying, I use The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text, Francis I. Andersen; A. Dean Forbes. It's tagged according to Eissfeldt's version of the Hypothesis. I hover over the text, and it tells me the source. Coloring to differentiate the sources would be much more convenient and useful.

    Also, can this info be gotten from a right-click in any translation or must I be in Forbes to ascertain this?

    Also, can this info be gotten from a right-click in any translation or must I be in Forbes to ascertain this?

    The resource has to have the search field for JEPD. Not just any OT. I think AFAT is the only one in hebrew.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    Is there an easy way to color the texts in Logos so that one could know which passages by color fit the JEDP docunmentary hypothesis?

    This is something I've been studying recently, and I'd love to see something like this. Perhaps it could be done with a visual filter? Unfortunately I don't know anything about those.

    In my present studying, I use The Hebrew Bible: Andersen-Forbes Analyzed Text, Francis I. Andersen; A. Dean Forbes. It's tagged according to Eissfeldt's version of the Hypothesis. I hover over the text, and it tells me the source. Coloring to differentiate the sources would be much more convenient and useful.

    It's pretty easy, when you create a visual filter.

    - AFAT (the search resource)

    - Bible search

    - Search field: Surface

    - I narrow to the Torah

    - Search term: <EissfeldtHexateuch = ??> Where ?? is Y, E, P, D, or B

    I put in 5 args using a colored background for each.

    I use a similar one for NT MSS's (age, and Alan category)

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    Thanks, Denise.

    It's pretty easy, when you create a visual filter.

    - AFAT (the search resource)

    - Bible search

    - Search field: Surface

    - I narrow to the Torah

    - Search term: <EissfeldtHexateuch = ??> Where ?? is Y, E, P, D, or B

    I can get this far (though I think the source is J, not Y; also what is B? Eissfeldt also has the source "Lay" and perhaps 1 or 2 other minor ones.

    I'm stuck after this step. I know nothing about setting up visual filters. Could you help, or point me to a good explanation?

    I can get this far

    Then when the AFAT is open, be sure the visual filter is on (3 dots to open options).

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

    Is there an easy way to color the texts in Logos so that one could know which passages by color fit the JEDP docunmentary hypothesis?

    With Logos 8, we released a dataset on Source Criticism. It currently only documents Eissfeldt's theories but could be expanded with other theories in the future.

    If you have the dataset, you should have access to the documentation: https://ref.ly/logosres/cidbdocsourcrit?art=art2 

    Hope it helps.

    Rick Brannan
    Data Wrangler, Faithlife
    My books in print

    but could be expanded with other theories in the future.

    I know someone waiting impatiently for Mowinkel on Jeremiah (as in Andersen-Forbes) ...

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

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    I found a solution to display the Sources in German Reverse Interlinears. See here. Thanks to @MJ. Smith for sharing the Visual Filter above.

    Here's my attempt at it:

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    I use a similar one for NT MSS's (age, and Alan category)

    @DMB, could you briefly explain how that works?

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    It's not perfect with the centuries. But decently. I have maybe 5 dating VFs. The one for CNTTS is most useful (due to data overload). That 'delete' popup is a bug from years back (belongs to window 1 but showing on window 3).

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    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    I was going to try and create this myself, but I don’t have an option for footnote text. What am I missing?

    Footnote text? You're in UBS5 apparatus?

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    I was trying to create your visual filter but I don't have an option for footnote text to select

    @Mattillo

    Type footnote in the Find box.

    Dave
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    Hmm … I'm not an expert on this … you didn't click on search fields:

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    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    Hmm … I'm not an expert on this … you didn't click on search fields:

    That is another way. But typing in the Find box is faster if you know what you want from any of the menu items below it.

    Dave
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    Thanks! I could have sworn I searched for it but did it again this morning and got it to work.

    On an unrelated note, anyone have any good visual filters for NET bibles? I had one but noticed yesterday my highlights were mixing so I fixed it with just "tc" = color etc but I am wondering if there is a better way. Footnote numbers are small and hard to see for my old eyes. :)

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     anyone have any good visual filters for NET bibles? I had one but noticed yesterday my highlights were mixing so I fixed it with just "tc" = color etc but I am wondering if there is a better way. Footnote numbers are small and hard to see for my old eyes. :)

    I played around with it, with less than satisfactory (eg unimpressive) results. NET also has the problem of stacked notes with a single footnote. The VF processes the results into a color combo! Oh well.

    I tried differentiating simple translational equivalents (tn Grk) from tn full comments. Also on tc, I tried out differentiating mss comment strength levels.

    Meh.

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    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

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    To Dave (clicking quote didn't work; using @Dave etc didn't work) So.

    I really should start using the search box … instead I scroll down, trying to find the right one. Thank you.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

    I clicked Quote at the bottom of your post to get the above!?

    Lower case @dave h will get you a selection.

    Dave
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    Agree but often doesn't (Safari latest)

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.