ATTN: Kyle and Craig Incomplete indexing for Jurgens

MJ. Smith
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edited November 20 in Resources Forum

Jurgens, W. A., trans. The Faith of the Early Fathers. Vol. 1–3. Collegeville, MN: The Liturgical Press, 1970–1979. is a resource that is normally referenced by Jurgen's number ... which is either volume number, excerpt number or simply excerpt number as they are unique without the volume number. Unfortunately, the excerpt numbers were not coded as milestones and thus the required index is not available. Some examples that should be links from my library. [Yes, there are a few resources that use page number for referencing.]

[quote]Among the Ignatian corpus is this letter, probably written ca. 400 and coming from an Origenist milieu.

Jurgens 1:27–28


Lawrence J. Johnson, Worship in the Early Church: An Anthology of Historical Sources, vol. 2 (Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press, 2009), 159.

[quote]Let the ancient custom which is followed in Egypt and Libya and the Pentapolis remain in force, by which the Bishop of Alexandria has the supervision of all those places, since this is also the custom of the Bishop of Rome.

(Jurgens, FEF, vol. 1, 283)


Dave Armstrong, Orthodoxy and Catholicism: A Comparison (Dave Armstrong, 2007), 68.

[quote]Letter of Cyprian to All His People [43 (40), 5], in Jurgens, Faith of the Early Fathers, 1:229.

Stephen K. Ray, Upon This Rock: St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome in Scripture and the Early Church, Modern Apologetics Library (San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 1999).

[quote]Originating in the third, perhaps second, century, this short hymn, regarded by Basil the Great (WEC 2:67) as ancient (On the Holy Spirit 73), was used to accompany the lighting of the lamps and has long been sung during the evening office in the East. The text, addressed to Christ, includes a trinitarian doxology.

CPG 1: no. 1355 * Jurgens 1:46 * Quasten 1:159 * DPAC 2:2777 * EEC 2:685 * EEChr 2:919 * ODCC 1283


Lawrence J. Johnson, Worship in the Early Church: An Anthology of Historical Sources, vol. 1 (Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press, 2009), 222.

[quote]Rather, by some secret of the all-powerful God the things seen are transformed into the Body and Blood of Christ, truly offered in a sacrifice in which we, as participants, receive the life-giving and sanctifying power of Christ.

(Commentary on Matthew [Mt. 26:27]; in Jurgens, vol. III, 220)


Dave Armstrong, Biblical Catholic Eucharistic Theology (Dave Armstrong, 2011), 141.

[quote]For this characterization of his personality, see William Jurgens, “St. Cyril of Alexandria,” in Jurgens, Faith of the Early Fathers, 3:206.

Mark Ellingsen, African Christian Mothers and Fathers: Why They Matter for the Church Today (Eugene, Oregon: Cascade Books, 2015).

[quote]This is an Augustinian aphorism, which can be found in his sermon 169, 13. See William A. Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, vol. 3 (Collegeville, MN: Liturgical Press, 1979), 29.

Martin Luther, The Interpretation of Scripture, ed. Euan K. Cameron et al., vol. 6, The Annotated Luther (Minneapolis, MN: Fortress Press, 2017).

[quote]With these words Birgitta introduces a cautiously worded allusion to another, and far less theologically satisfactory, concept of the devil’s claim to “justice” in the sense that he somehow owned the sinful race of Adam and that God had to buy us back by paying the devil with the blood of Christ. Such an idea can be found in not a few of the early fathers as a result of their attempt to explain the biblical concept of “redemption” or “buying-back.” This concept of paying the devil was vigorously rejected by such different theologians as St. Gregory Nazianzen, St. Anselm, and St. Thomas Aquinas. See Ott 186 and William A. Jurgens, The Faith of the Early Fathers, 3 vols. (Collegeville, Liturgical Press, 1970–1979), passages 508, 928, 1016, 1257, 1675, 2311 and the notes appended to them.

Birgitta of Sweden, Birgitta of Sweden: Life and Selected Revelations, ed. Marguerite Tjader Harris and Bernard McGinn, trans. Albert Ryle Kezel, The Classics of Western Spirituality (New York; Mahwah, NJ: Paulist Press, 1990).

[quote]William Jurgens, in The Faith of the Early Fathers (Collegeville: Liturgical Press, 1970–1979), 1:6–7, argues cogently and, I think, conclusively for this date.

Mark P. Shea, By What Authority?: An Evangelical Discovers Catholic Tradition, Revised and Expanded Edition (San Francisco: Ignatius Press, 2013).

[quote]10Origen, Commentaries on Romans, 5, 8, in Jurgens, 1:209. Origen also states that the church ‘… received from the Apostles the tradition of giving Baptism even to infants’, for the Apostles knew that in everyone is found the ‘innate stains of [original] sin, which must be washed away through water and the Spirit’. 5, 9.

Evangelical Review of Theology 25 (2001).

Final example: FEF is Jurgens and here both the excerpt number and the page number are given.

[quote]The Father and Son have given the church no greater gift than the outpouring of God’s own Spirit. “God does not give a Gift inferior to Himself” (Augustine, Faith and the Creed 9.19, FEF III, 1561, p. 44).

Thomas C. Oden, Life in the Spirit: Systematic Theology, Vol. III (San Francisco, CA: HarperSanFrancisco, 1992), 3.

Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

Comments

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,218

    I saw this and will take a look at it. It probably won't be until tomorrow.

  • Kyle G. Anderson
    Kyle G. Anderson Member, Logos Employee Posts: 2,218

    I might be misunderstanding the request but it looks like most of the references follow a reference scheme of volume/page. In theory we could create a data type for this i.e. an active milestone index of "Jurgens Volume x, Page x" however we'd be very unlikely to undertake this project.

    It also has, for lack of better term, paragraph numbers. This seems like a more likely candidate for us to explore.