8.9 (8.9.0.0023) is now available
The Logos Bible Software desktop application version 8.9 is now available to all users.
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I notice that now when I copy text, whether into BibleWorks or Word, it converts to Calibri font, whereas before it copied to the target source's font, Times New Roman.
Is this a bug, or is there something I need to change?
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On the other hand, let me say that so far I'm delighted with the change as to selecting single words! Logos used to do that, then stopped. I complained, and was told, "Sorry, that's just the way it is now." I'm so glad it's been rectified!
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Am I correct, Miss Philana, that this is the final update that will work on Windows 7 OS machines?
Thank you so much!
Paul L. White
Satisfied Logos User since 1.6
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Paul L. White said:
that this is the final update that will work on Windows 7 OS machines?
No; we've committed to supporting Windows 7 through Logos 8.11 (past when Windows 7 is end-of-life): https://community.logos.com/forums/t/182626.aspx.
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Ah! Thank you so much, Mr. Grainger. I have copied your note here down, and saved it, so I won't need to ask again.
This is very kind of you to take the time and explain.
Salute!
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To add to my previous question: I notice that just now the Copy Bible Verses changes the font as well, as it had not done. Same questions.
Is this the place to get these questions answered, as Paul L. White already has had his answered by Bradley Grainger, or should I ask somewhere else?
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Hi Daniel
Just to confirm that this is definitely the place to ask these questions and you are right to kick back in when your thread is hi-jacked. Unfortunately this is one of the weaknesses of the system.
On my Mac I can paste in two ways Cmd V will paste the font and style that is in the clip-board. Cmd + Option +Shift + V will paste to the style set in the document that I am pasting too.
I guess that there will be a similar way of working in Windows?
tootle pip
Mike
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Can someone 'splain the 'why' for this change? Does this mean VC won't be available for monographs, etc.?
Eating a steady diet of government cheese, and living in a van down by the river.
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Just for the record, there was no attempt on my part to "hijack" anyone's thread.
The Original Post was about the update of Logos. I deduced, from that, that any question about the release was valid in this thread.
Paul L. White
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Doc B said:
Can someone 'splain the 'why' for this change? Does this mean VC won't be available for monographs, etc.?
This has nothing to do which what kind of resource you are using. This means that when you right click and select various types of data on the left side of the context menu, the VC option won't be displayed on the right. That was removed, because VC doesn't support those other types of data reference.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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That was removed, because VC doesn't support those other types of data
But it still appears if I simply select a phrase (so not a reference or lemma) so I am confused about this.
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Graham Criddle said:
That was removed, because VC doesn't support those other types of data
But it still appears if I simply select a phrase (so not a reference or lemma) so I am confused about this.
Correct, because it actually does something useful in that scenario. The option was removed from selections where it didn't actually do anything useful.
The release note indicates that it affects "datatype other than Bible references and lemmas". The phrase text is not a datatype.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Thanks, Mike. I didn't feel Paul had hijacked the thread; I did wonder why he got a quick response, and so far Logos has given me none.
To be clear:
BEFORE: I select text and copy in any way (drag and drop, Ctrl + C, right-click and Copy), and when I paste it is in the target doc's font -- 12 pt Times New Roman in Word, 10 pt in BibleWorks.Now, no matter how I copy, the font changes for either, to Calibri 12 or 10. I changed nothing; it happened after this update.
I want to go back to how it was.
How-to?
I'm on Windows 10.
Thanks again for responding.
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The release note indicates that it affects "datatype other than Bible references and lemmas". The phrase text is not a datatype.
Got it!
Thanks Andrew
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Daniel J. Phillips said:
Now, no matter how I copy, the font changes for either, to Calibri 12 or 10. I changed nothing; it happened after this update.
I also get the font changing - but I don't do this very often so can't compare with how it used to work.
I also had an Office upgrade at around the same time. If you did, is that a factor? (I know that wouldn't affect Bibleworks though)
On Word, what default settings do you have for copy / paste operations?
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Paul L. White said:
Just for the record, there was no attempt on my part to "hijack" anyone's thread.
Paul, I do apologise. This was down to my incompetence.
I should have suggested that a new thread be started.
Please accept my unreserved apology for that remark.
tootle pip
Mike
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I have keep source formatting.
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Daniel J. Phillips said:
I have keep source formatting.
Hi, Daniel. I apologize for the trouble. This was an intentional change as part of the fix for the problem reported here. We had our "default" font set as Times New Roman (which, happily for you, coincided with your target font). Most Word users, however, use Word's default font, Calibri, and we intentionally changed our default font to match the default for the majority of users.
Ultimately, whether to respect the font of the copied text is up to the receiving application. Fortunately, as Graham points out, you can set your paste formatting options in Word. I would recommend you set Word to "Merge Formatting" which retains bold and italic of the source text, and discards font face and other formatting.
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Graham, do not believe the options in your screenshot exist in MS Word for Mac.
Also, according to Adam's post, those settings will not correct the problem. Text from Logos would still paste in Calibri.
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Jack Caviness said:
Graham, do not believe the options in your screenshot exist in MS Word for Mac.
Thanks Jack, I wasn’t aware of that. But I had noted that Daniel was running Windows so it would be available to him.
Jack Caviness said:
Also, according to Adam's post, those settings will not correct the problem. Text from Logos would still paste in Calibri.
True - but using the “Keep Text Only” option would paste in the required font although it would lose other formatting. So the best option will vary based on need.
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It is my honor, Mike Binks, to accept your apology. Your attitude demonstrates, to my way of thinking, that you are a true Man of God. Thank you for being such a shining example of our Lord's humility on this earth!
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Thanks for all the bug fixes in this update, Faithlife!
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Summa Theologica by Aquinas does not show up in systematic theologies anymore.
It still seems to be in the systematic theology dataset
I have the English version of the book
Group: Medieval
• Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica (Latin)
• Thomas Aquinas, Summa Theologica (English)
Brannan, R., & Venable, P. (2015). Systematic Theology Cross-References: Dataset Documentation. Bellingham, WA: Faithlife.
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I just tested and mine does show Aquinas ... it must be specific to your installation.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
it must be specific to your installation.
Well, I rebuilt the index and started Logos over, and Summa Theologica (English version) is still not showing up in the Systematic Theologies.
I am using PC and Windows 8.1 and everything else seems to work fine. The Logos version is 8.9 (8.9.0.0023), not beta.
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I bought Summa Contra Gentiles to test, and that is working, Thus my computer has nothing particularly against Aquinas.
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By the way the Rebuild Index was fast: less than half of the time, (possibly a third) I expected!
I guess it now utilizes the CPU cores better. Thanks a lot to FL! [H]
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Okay, I was dense - only the Latin appears not the English for ST
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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There might be a typo in the newest dataset update.
I assume it is easy to fix.
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Veli Voipio said:
I guess it now utilizes the CPU cores better.
It's not new, but up to 6 resources are indexed at a time, using 6 cores/threads (provided you have 5 GB or more RAM).
Dave
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Thanks, Adam. I'll attach my Word 2010 setting. If I drag and drop or Ctrl + V, I still get Calibri.
I really think this either needs to be reversed, or we need an option to reverse it. My major use is in BibleWorks, and I have to re-format each Logos pasting. This is new and unwelcome behavior.
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Same settings as Daniel, but when I Ctrl-V from a commentary in Word, it pastes it in as Calibri 12pt. My Normal style is Arial 10pt. If I right-click in my sermon, and select "merge formatting," it pastes in as Arial 10 pt.
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MJ. Smith said:
Okay, I was dense - only the Latin appears not the English for ST
Well, a new dataset came today, but it keeps the same problem: not showing Summa (English) under the Medieval section in the Systematic theologies in the Passage Guide
Thus I made a workaround: I bought the Latin version and use the English as the parallel resource. This may sound like a drastic decision, but I've been thinking to have the Latin version.
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Adam Borries (Faithlife) said:Daniel J. Phillips said:
I have keep source formatting.
Hi, Daniel. I apologize for the trouble. This was an intentional change as part of the fix for the problem reported here. We had our "default" font set as Times New Roman (which, happily for you, coincided with your target font). Most Word users, however, use Word's default font, Calibri, and we intentionally changed our default font to match the default for the majority of users.
Ultimately, whether to respect the font of the copied text is up to the receiving application.
Is it impossible for you to allow the user to set "[ y ]our 'default' font"?
“The trouble is that everyone talks about reforming others and no one thinks about reforming himself.” St. Peter of Alcántara
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Hear, hear.
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Pastor Dan Cleghorn said:
Same settings as Daniel, but when I Ctrl-V from a commentary in Word, it pastes it in as Calibri 12pt. My Normal style is Arial 10pt. If I right-click in my sermon, and select "merge formatting," it pastes in as Arial 10 pt.
With this latest update, does it paste into Word in the users normal font choice, or is it still coming in as Calibri 12pt?
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That is happening to me also. I end up having to manually change the font.
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SineNomine said:Adam Borries (Faithlife) said:Daniel J. Phillips said:
I have keep source formatting.
Hi, Daniel. I apologize for the trouble. This was an intentional change as part of the fix for the problem reported here. We had our "default" font set as Times New Roman (which, happily for you, coincided with your target font). Most Word users, however, use Word's default font, Calibri, and we intentionally changed our default font to match the default for the majority of users.
Ultimately, whether to respect the font of the copied text is up to the receiving application.
Is it impossible for you to allow the user to set "[ y ]our 'default' font"?
Bumping this thread to advocate for the solution of being able to set a personal default font for pastes.
I don't do most of my serious work in Word but Nota Bene, where the default is still Times New Roman. I do not want to switch to using Calibri for academic writing. That Logos thinks I should whenever I do a paste is somewhat annoying.
It is possible to do a paste that strips out the formatting, but it strips out all the formatting, such as italics in the original.
Please reconsider and fix this.
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Amen!
Also, since this bad change, when I use the Logos tool to copy Hebrew text and paste it into BibleWorks, the first word is always a different font from the rest of the quotation. So I always — ALWAYS — have to re-format just the first word. As so:
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My copy of Logos 8 reports that I have version 8.14.0.0010. When I submit the Update Now command it reports there are no updates available. Also, when I download the installer, it reports that I am running the latest software. How can I update to 8.9?
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Dave Cotner said:
My copy of Logos 8 reports that I have version 8.14.0.0010. When I submit the Update Now command it reports there are no updates available. Also, when I download the installer, it reports that I am running the latest software. How can I update to 8.9?
You are running 8.14 which is more recent (the current version) than 8.9
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Veli Voipio said:
Summa Theologica by Aquinas does not show up in systematic theologies anymore.
Looks like it has been fixed, probably was a dataset problem.
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