Problem Copying Text to Word
Since updating to 8.9, I've had a problem copying text to Word. I have times new roman set as my default font in Word. When I copy Bible text to Word using the copy Bible verses app, it copies the text to Word in times new roman as it should and as it did before 8.9; however, if I copy text from a lexicon or commentary or anything including Biblical ,text it copies into Word in calibri. This did not happen before 8.9. I talked to a tech at Logos and he gave me a very unsatisfactory explanation. He said Logos could not do anything about this. It is the way the clipboard handles things. Really? That doesn't make any sense. Anyone have an idea?
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Whether to keep the original formatting or merge the formatting is an option within Word. The question is whether the interface that Logos is using to communicate with Word allows Logos to set that option or whether it must be done in Word.
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I raised this same question Tuesday: http://bit.ly/2KhRkDd
Logos has not yet responded to me either.
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MJ, my situation is like Daniel's. If I changed nothing why did the process change?
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Thanks Daniel. I'm glad I'm not the Lone Ranger. The only difference is on a Mac.
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I agree that this is unwanted behavior, but I had not paid attention to this until after reading your post. I have used Word's Customize Keyboard… feature to assign keystrokes to my most used paragraph styles—Control/Option/7 for the ¶ style. I also set up keystrokes for the most used fonts. For instance, I use Control/Shift/T for Times New Roman.
Not ideal, but it only takes a couple of seconds after setup.
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Randall,
I, too, have the same problem. The only work around I have found is to right-click in Word, and select "merge formatting." This will put it in your preferred style.
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Thanks for responding to this issue, which I share. But:
1. I don't think that works for drag and drop, which I use most often. And
2. It wasn't broke before. The update broke it. Logos should fix it, and not add multiple steps to what has been seamless for years and years and years.
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MJ, Daniel, Jack, and pastor Dan thanks for your responses. I am able to work around the problem, but it is annoying and time consuming. What I find most disturbing is the response I got from a Logos tech that I spoke to on the phone. He told me the problem was not with Logos but with the clipboard. That is obviously incorrect for two reasons: 1) before 8.9 everything worked fined and 2) every other app is able to copy and paste a text selection preserving the original font of the text. I hope someone at Logos looks into and solves this problem.
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Randall Cue said:
MJ, Daniel, Jack, and pastor Dan thanks for your responses. I am able to work around the problem, but it is annoying and time consuming. What I find most disturbing is the response I got from a Logos tech that I spoke to on the phone. He told me the problem was not with Logos but with the clipboard. That is obviously incorrect for two reasons: 1) before 8.9 everything worked fined and 2) every other app is able to copy and paste a text selection preserving the original font of the text. I hope someone at Logos looks into and solves this problem.
Randall, the tech's response was correct, but incomplete. I've responded on the main thread: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/186266/1075532.aspx#1075532
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I went to the "main thread" and read through it. I still find it very confusing. Greek and Hebrew text retain their font face when coping from Logos and pasting into Word. And as I mentioned earlier every other app I've tried retains its font face when pasting into Word. I know now that I have to work around this problem in Logos. Perhaps in the future Logos can find away to have the font face preserved.
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I don't mean to "beat a dead horse", but I have one more question. How do you change the font face in the CBV tool? Right now it is set to Times New Roman for all of the styles.
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Randall Cue said:
How do you change the font face in the CBV tool?
In theory you should change it with this syntax. But I've not found it to work.
Dave
===Windows 11 & Android 13
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Another interesting quirk. While the text of what is copied is in calibri, the text of the footnote associated with it is in times new roman.
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Randall Cue said:
Another interesting quirk. While the text of what is copied is in calibri, the text of the footnote associated with it is in times new roman.
Randall,
I'm not able to reproduce this. Could you give me an example? How are you copying? For me, it pastes as Calibri.
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DId for me. Randomly dragged and dropped from Pennington's Sermon on the Mount.
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Daniel,
What is font is set for your Normal Style in Word?
Thanks,
Philana
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Hi Philana, thanks for responding.
In MS Word 2010, Normal is 12 pt regular Times New Roman.
In BibleWorks, it is 10 pt. Times New Roman.
Before this update, Logos switched to each app's target font.
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Hi Philana,
Here is my procedure:
Highlight text from a Logos volume such as Pillar New Testament Commentary
I'm using a Mac so I copy the text with command c
Paste into Word with command v
My default font in Word is Times New Roman. The text of what I copied gets pasted into Word as Calibri but the footnote citation is in Times New Roman. I have the text display font in Logos set as Times New Roman.
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Philana, are you looking into this? If so, what have you found?
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Also interested in the answer.
Hopefully, Logos will either (1) return it to the previous function, or (2) provide that as an option. It's a step back to have to reformat every copied text now,not an improvement.
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Randall Cue said:
Philana, are you looking into this? If so, what have you found?
Hi Randall,
I have written up a case. If you desire everything the match your Normal settings your can Paste and merge the formattng as a work around.
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Daniel J. Phillips said:
Also interested in the answer.
Hopefully, Logos will either (1) return it to the previous function, or (2) provide that as an option. It's a step back to have to reformat every copied text now,not an improvement.
Agreed.
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...and I'll raise that the text tool has also gone nuts.
Note the two fonts when I use it to find text and copy to BibleWorks, and Word:
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Bump
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Be nice to get a "Yep, we recognize this all as a real problem, and it will be rectified in the next update," wouldn't it?
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Here's another instance of the bug. Sure hope Logos is working on this new bug. Used the Bible verses tool to find and copy some verses from AFAT, and paste into BibleWorks. Here's what I got:
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They just released an update, and this bug is not fixed by it.
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Bump
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Bump. Still no solution in 8.11.
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