Logos 9 Wishlist
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I know they have given a hard no to converting a pdf into a full logos book, but I would be happy with a simple pdf reader within logos that at the minimum would index and feed back some search results from the recognized text, which is already embedded in most PDFs with OCR anyway, the dirty secret is this feature already exists (books.logos.com), they provide many public domain PDFs this way, you read the book in the media tab, but it’s fully searchable. the problem is we cannot add our own books or journals to it. That seems like less of a programming issue and more of a deliberate crippling of the software. 99% of modern journal articles I can download in PDF format are already OCR equipped and quite accurate. It’s only a problem if you want some German article from 1932. I’m not asking for a full logos book copy of the article necessarily, I’m fine with it staying as a pdf, just let it pop up in my searches and keep my notes from the pdf tagged to the file. Again, they appear to have already programmed this in!
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James Neuendorf said:
I know they have given a hard no to converting a pdf into a full logos book, but I would be happy with a simple pdf reader within logos that at the minimum would index and feed back some search results from the recognized text, which is already embedded in most PDFs with OCR anyway
I completely agree.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What are the most important things we should solve for Logos 9?
Reading plans
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Yea I agree reading plans. The improvement I want is to do away with the dates and just make it reading sessions.
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Please add Notes secondary anchors functionality so they can support every type that a primary anchor does. Thanks!
Two examples of unsupported secondary anchor references:
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Mathew Haferkamp said:
Yea I agree reading plans. The improvement I want is to do away with the dates and just make it reading sessions.
I second that. Or at least have a different catch up option that doesn't mark overdue readings as complete, but rather moves the most overdue reading to "today".
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Andrew said:
Or at least have a different catch up option that doesn't mark overdue readings as complete, but rather moves the most overdue reading to "today".
That already exists! You want “adjust plan from today.” “Catch Up” does what you describe. If you need help, create a new thread and I can provide screenshots.
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JT (alabama24) said:Andrew said:
Or at least have a different catch up option that doesn't mark overdue readings as complete, but rather moves the most overdue reading to "today".
That already exists! You want “adjust plan from today.” “Catch Up” does what you describe. If you need help, create a new thread and I can provide screenshots.
Wow, that feature is really hidden: https://community.logos.com/forums/t/93491.aspx Thank you - I have been wishing for this option for a long time...Seems more useful to me than the "Catch Up" option.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What improvements should we make to existing features?
If Faithlife is genuinely expanding into theology, they have done some useful work for some users but, in general, I would say they have missed the mark for another set of users.
1. It is useful to create a neutral ontology so the organization of the LST has it's place. However, for many Christians an organization already existed in the for of the 12 articles of the Apostles Creed. An alternative organization based on the Creed would be "more natural" to many users and greatly appreciated:
Reformed Answers said:The Apostles' Creed
1. I believe in God the Father [Isa. 44:5-6], Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth [Gen. 1:1; John 1:3; Acts 14:15]:
2. And in Jesus Christ [Luke 2:11; John 20:28], his only begotten Son [John 3:16], our Lord [John 20:28]:
3. Who was conceived by the Holy Ghost [Luke 1:35], born of the Virgin Mary [Luke 1:27]:
4. Suffered under Pontius Pilate [Luke 23:24]; was crucified [John 19:20; Acts 4:10], dead [1 Cor. 15:3] and buried [1 Cor. 15:4]: He descended into hell [Acts 2:24, i.e. the grave]:
5. The third day he rose again from the dead [1 Cor. 15:4]:
6. He ascended into heaven [Luke 24:51; Acts 1:11], and sits at the right hand of God the Father Almighty [Mark 16:19; Heb 1:3; 10:12]:
7. From thence he shall come to judge the quick and the dead [John 5:22; 2 Tim. 4:1]:
8. I believe in the Holy Ghost [John 15:26; 16:7-8, 13]:
9. I believe in the holy catholic [universal] church [Gal. 3:28; 1 Tim. 3:15]: the communion of saints [Acts 2:44; Heb. 10:25]:
10. The forgiveness of sins [Luke 7:48]:
11. The resurrection of the body [1 Cor. 15:52-54; 1 Thess. 4:16]:
12. And the life everlasting [John 10:28; 17:2]. Amen [Eph. 3:21; Rev. 7:12].
2. The Creeds/Confessions of Faith/ etc. are a frequent starting point for many when addressing historical questions or fundamental starting points for unfamiliar denominations. The resources offered in this area should be expanded (think Pelikan). But more important is some form of a parallel creed reader that presents sections on the same topic side by side.
3. The majority of systematic theology works represent the opinion of one person and have little authority and less long term influence. There are, of course, exceptions such as Palamas, Aquinas, Luther, Calvin . . .What is usually of more interest to an "outsider" than individual's opinions is the corporate opinion of the church as a whole .. think Lambeth papers, or the papers produced on same sex marriage, homosexuality, just warfare, capital punishment ... This is where the church hits the pavement and most questions I need to research fall. Building relationships with the publishers of church documents is critical.
4. Several branches of Christianity take "Lex orandi, lex credendi" very seriously. Liturgy IS theology in contrast to theology of liturgy. Therefore, Faithlife needs to improve the sequencing of the data in the Liturgy Guide section, implement historic lectionaries (i.e. liturgical dates only), and implement a basic structure into which worship services can be coded to permit easy comparison of analogous parts across rite, time and denomination. This also requires moving into the Daily Prayer/Breviary/Liturgical of the Hours/ et. al. as daily prayer is a significant element of liturgy.
When Faithlife addresses theology in this way, I will believe that they took their move into theology seriously and considered the needs from the lay leader to the ordained clergy to the professor.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Many great and much needed suggestions!
Here is another:
Simplify Reading Plan builder UI and expand it's metric selection options and overall capabilities. As it stands, the Reading Plan builder is too complex in the making of a plan and, at the same time, restrictive in it's metrics and capabilities. For instance, if I want to read a chapter a day of a book or if I want to read 3 OT chapters, 1 NT chapters, and 1 Psalm a day: in L8, I currently would have to painstakingly input page numbers or each day's readings in a tedious project that would take hour(s). This will not hold the next generation.
Additionally, expand the Reading Plan capabilities such as:
-read a recurring plan or recurring part of a plan (ie. read a chapter of Proverbs daily thru the month each month)
-options for the days readings to: (a) be ready made on the home page, click-free (b) be emailed to you daily (c) be texted to you as a reminder
-include other metrics such as section or unit
-etc.
I really believe simplification and expansion will help retain the next generation. Many want to use a powerful and smart software like Logos, but few want to master a difficult and complex learning curve. Make it simple and intuitive.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What would make Logos 9 an irresistible upgrade for you?
A user option to hide the green Go box button:
The bright green Go button to the right of the Go box on the desktop’s main window is an uncomfortable visual distraction for me as I try to focus on resource text below it and perform other program functions. It is so distracting that I’ve had to resort to hanging a small strip of cloth from the top of my monitor to cover this button.
Please add an option for users to hide the green Go button if they desire. The Go button, in my opinion, is not even necessary since when using the Go box, one can either use the enter key or mouse click on their desired choice from the drop down list.
Adding a “hide Go button” option would be the simplest and I believe most logical solution to the problem I’ve described; however, Faithlife might also consider combining this option with a “change Go button color” option (from a list of several color choices to include an unobtrusive shade of grey). This would be helpful if a user chooses to “unhide” the Go button but prefers a different color.
To reiterate, this issue is seriously hindering my ability to use the program. Adding a “hide Go button” option would solve this problem and make Logos 9 an irresistible upgrade for me. Overall, I love the Logos program but a lot of impressive new features mean nothing if the program is painful to look at whenever I open the main window.
Please see this recently submitted UserVoice suggestion:
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:What general themes or areas should we focus on?
UI customization options for desktop which:
- increase eye comfort and text readability
- enable users to make limited adjustments to the appearance of the main window and resource panels to fit their own particular vision needs
- provide relief to those users who have trouble tolerating extremely bright, high contrast buttons, icons, and other UI elements
Specific actions which would help address these goals are as follows:
Main Window
- Go button
- Add an option to hide the bright green Go button. (See my comments reflected above concerning this issue.) If I was allowed only one request for Logos 9, it would be this one!
- Logos Icon
- Remove the large Logos icon on the top left corner of the main window which serves no functional purpose and takes up space that could better be applied to the shortcut bar.
- Toolbar
- Add a single mouse click option to hide the entire main window toolbar (home/library/search icons, Go box/Go button, docs/guides/tools menus, shortcut bar, etc.) while remaining in a normal multi-tiled, multi-paneled workspace.
Resource Panel
- Toolbar Buttons
- Add an option to hide any individual button within the resource panel toolbar that is visually distracting, seldom used, or routinely accessed through another means (such as a context menu or the resource panel menu).
- Toolbar
- Add a single mouse click option to hide the entire resource panel toolbar (TOC button, reference box, tool buttons, etc.) while working in a normal multi-tiled, multi-paneled workspace.
- Tab System
- Add an option to hide the resource icons which currently appear within each tab and replace them with resource abbreviations. (An alternative method of viewing the resource icon is already available by hovering over a tab.)
- Add a single mouse click option to hide the Link Set indicator box within all tabs. (I know which resources I've linked so the indicator in each tab is an unnecessary distraction and lengthens the tab.)
- Return the height of each panel tab to its shorter Logos 7 tab height.
- Add an option to hide the "X" button in all inactive tabs and rely on the right click menu to close.
- Add an option to change the color of the bright orange line over the active tab and below an active search category to the bluish grey line used in Logos 7.
Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:....what should we do to win the next generation of new users?
UI customization options for desktop:
It would be a powerful encouragement for potential new customers to choose Logos and for current customers to continue making routine purchases if they knew regardless of what default UI changes might occur, they would have the ability to adjust the appearance of the main window and resource panels to fit their own particular vision needs.
As an example, I had previously planned on making several large Logos purchases this year but since no UI customization option exists to overcome the uncomfortably distracting bright green Go button which was introduced with Logos 8 and it is currently unknown whether such an option will exist in Logos 9, my previously planned purchases are on hold.
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Passage List Fix:
Let me edit the Passage address in a list so I can fix it if some detail is wrong
Example: Edit Ps 18:1-2 to Ps 18:1-3
I've wanted to do this so many times and I must presently add the passage manually in the little hole at the bottom of pages of passages and then delete the existing passage--if I can find it again. I never seem to get it quite right. A simple right click | edit or some better idea would be helpful.
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Please restore search everything behavior.
It's not "expected behavior" when users expect something different than what developers coded.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Rethink the Home page.
It's not compelling, intuitive, easy-to-use, nor is it an efficient use of space. It also doesn't scroll using arrow keys very well. Conpile Reading Plans as an article at the top daily; link to favorite or most used layouts, resources, bibles, tools, collections, notes, docs, files, web links, etc; option to remove random articles, FL promos, etc; option for single column; use space efficiently; etc.
The purpose should be intuitive, quick access. Customization should be an option, not a requirement for a new user first logging in.
I don't even use the L8 Home page. It is complex inefficient, and very completely useless. This does not hold new users and will not retain the next generation.
The keyword here is not 'powerful', which Logos is, but 'ease-of use', 'simple', 'intuitive', and 'efficient'. Another-- 'usability'. These keywords are also needed throughout much of Logos and should be one of the main goals of L9 (and kept n mind when building further versions as well). That is how you retain new users and win the next generation!0 -
At a minimum, please add Reading Cycle improvements to support (power) lookup and verse previews.
The Courses tool already supports this for its embedded content.
Honestly, would prefer to see all types of readings supported by an improved Courses tool, so we could (create and) complete all manner of reading plans, reading lists, reading cycles, etc., within a single tool.
Thanks to FL for including Carta and a Hebrew audio bible in Logos 9!
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Dark mode!!
My email client, to do list, evernote, and (would you believe) even Microsoft Word all default to dark mode when I activate dark mode on my mac.
This leaves Logos not so much as a lamp to my feet as a painful headlight in my eyes
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What should we do to win the next generation of new users?
This is an interesting question. I have two sons that are both young preachers. Both seem to prefer paper books. I will never understand why. It seems that for them the idea of using Bible software is an uphill battle.
As a marketing strategy, I do think they are strongly influenced by what they saw used in the seminary classroom. I'd try hard to market to seminary professors with the thought that if you get them using Logos in the classroom, the students will want to use Logos when they get out of school.
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I was reminded again recently --- make things simple. Apple created a dynasty by making it all about the user interface rather than having to have 'expert knowledge. After 30 years of using Logos, it seems to be getting more and more complex with less and less added value. I personally have stopped trying to keep up.
Use Logos 9 as an opportunity to make it simpler to use (and fast). This would result in the greatest long term impact for future sales and for a more satisfied user base. Less about needing software knowledge - more about actual use for Bible study.
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3000.Wrong Lemma Tag in Proverbs 1-29.pdf
A few changes that should be simple.
In "Clippings" you capture the highlighted information from the resource and then capture the biographical information as well. Currently, when I desire to use the information on a paper, I have to click on the resource link and then copy from the resource to produce the footnote when I paste the citation into WORD. Please enhance "Clippings" to allow a direct copy of the "Clipping" directly into WORD.
I some cases, the "hyperlink" as indicated by the letters being is blue do not work. Someone should review the hyperlinks and ensure they all work. It is somewhat embarrassing when I States to my students, click on the "hyperlink" and it does not bring up the OWNED resource, but just the name. (See attached PPT.
In another case, the lemma lik is not correct. See the attached PPT for the example. If was extremely embarrassing when this resulted in an erroneous report.
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I am surprised that prioritization hasn't shown up several times in this thread - a version or two back it was a big issue and it still is an unsatisfactory mess.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Well, did you tell them about it?
I would like to be able to use it in, say, a passage guide, where I can move something up or down.
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What new features should we add?
Example: In ESV press + to add tab: generated list needs to be alphabetized;
right now, they are scrambled – have to search for the one you want.
Right click a verse number, then option for “Read Aloud” to be in Hebrew, Greek, DCHeath, or LEB, (etc)0 -
David Betts said:
Example: In ESV press + to add tab: generated list needs to be alphabetized;
right now, they are scrambled – have to search for the one you want.The list in question is arranged according to how you prioritize it. This is done by opening the Library; clicking on the three vertical dot icon, and selecting Prioritize Resources. This opens a pane on the right side of the Library window. Now you can drag the resources you want (like Bibles) and arrange them in the order you want to see them in lists like the one you described.
See here for more information: https://wiki.logos.com/Prioritizing
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Scott said:
Reading Plan builder UI and expand it's metric selection options and overall capabilities.
This needs to be fixed in L9.
This thread is an excellent example of the issues with Reading Plans:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/187487.aspx
Reading Plans needs to generate Reading Plan by chapter, section, etc in ALL resources.
If that means adding chapter, section, et al headings to the index, then DO IT!!
Reading Plans is a great idea that needs practicality and usability to win users-- even advanced users.I love Logos, it just needs to keep perfecting and becoming even better and I want to help it do so because it's such a great concept with such great potential but just needs some work!
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MJ. Smith said:
I am surprised that prioritization hasn't shown up several times in this thread - a version or two back it was a big issue and it still is an unsatisfactory mess.
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Scott said:Scott said:
Reading Plan builder UI and expand it's metric selection options and overall capabilities.
This needs to be fixed in L9.
This thread is an excellent example of the issues with Reading Plans:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/187487.aspx
Reading Plans needs to generate Reading Plan by chapter, section, etc in ALL resources.
If that means adding chapter, section, et al headings to the index, then DO IT!!
Reading Plans is a great idea that needs practicality and usability to win users-- even advanced users.I love Logos, it just needs to keep perfecting and becoming even better and I want to help it do so because it's such a great concept with such great potential but just needs some work!
There's nothing broke! You can do this already with custom reading plans.
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Thank you Levi Durfey for prioritizing info.
For L9: Greek audio for Septuagint.
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Matt Hamrick said:
There's nothing broke! You can do this already with custom reading plans.
No one said it was broke. A number of us have stated it is currently not easy or practical. We are talking about improvements.
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I think the library has some significant bugs:
I wanted to see if i had the Living Bible. I type in living bible, click titles, and I have 277 results. True, living Bible was not in quotes, but 277 results? Most titles weren't even close.
I type in Smith as an author. I get 274 results: Kay Arthur, James Bennett, Cindy Bultema, Trent Butler.
I remember a project I was working on, don't remember the details, but this inclusion of hundreds of irrelevant results was taking too much time to find what I needed. Logos software exists to say people time. That's why we buy it.
Thank you
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Larry Craig said:
I think the library has some significant bugs:
I agree that the library need improvements but I haven't found the filters to be buggy. If I type in author:Smith, I get last name Smith. hyphenated last name Smith, middle name Smith, co-author Smith for 389 instances but I find no errors.
If you did not specify title and put quotes around Living Bible, it will look for the text everywhere, title, publisher, author, subject ... using the left hand facets usually get you to what you actually want faster.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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thank you
You're helpful, as always.
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While we are on the Library topic,
Set the default cursor location to "Find" so I don't have to wait for the cows to come home waiting for filters to populate.
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It would be great for Favourites to be searchable (via the tool, Search and Guides) and exportable (with live links).
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Phil:
I think this has been referenced in this thread, but I couldn't find it just now.
Please fix the problems with tabs that goes back to the changes with the L8 release. You seemed to agree with the feedback at the time:
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/174066/1005146.aspx
- It takes a disproportionate number of clicks to move from the leftmost to rightmost tabs on a panel when there are many tabs open.
- I don't believe there is a hotkey to move right/left through tabs in a panel.
- It's ridiculously easy to accidentally close a tab. The fact that it can be re-opened isn't an answer.Thanks,
Donnie
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See:
- SUGGESTION: A useful default Saints layout
- SUGGESTION: Modifications to Sermon editor on behalf of Faith formation directors (aka disciplining?)
- SUGGESTION: Hermeneutics, Interpretation, Exegesis, Bible Study ...
- LOGOS 9 for the other folks i.e. those who are volunteers and congregation not professionals or students
- SUGGESTION: What would full lectionary support look like?
- VERBUM 9 SUGGESTION re: "liturgical ribbon"
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Wish: Delta (aka dynamic aka incremental) updates.
The minor fixes going from 8.10 to SR-1 to SR-2 illustrate this need perfectly. Almost 400MB of downloads per device !!
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- Dark mode!
- Fix bugs with notes!!!!!! I use this feature regularly and the bus are frustrating.
- Folders in the top bar (Desktop)
- Images in notes / canvas / workflows (Desktop/Mobile)
- User tables in notes/ canvas / workflows (Desktop/Mobile)
- Headings in notes. Indispensable for long notes.(Desktop/Mobile)
- Visual annotation of text (like Accordance 13) (Desktop/Mobile)
- Full touch screen support (Desktop)
- Extra levels of indent in workflow hierarchy (Desktop/Mobile)
- Improve graphics/Maps. Sacred Bridge please! I'm holding off on purchasing Accordance for this single resource, but if Logos doesn't get this in the near future, I will switch to the competitor for my graphic needs.
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I'm not the sharpest person on this site, but I think your suggestions need amplification in most cases. Like what exactly bugs with notes are you thinking of? If you don't say, they might fix some but not some that you are thinking of. Don't assume everybody knows what you are thinking.
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Larry Craig said:
I'm not the sharpest person on this site, but I think your suggestions need amplification in most cases. Like what exactly bugs with notes are you thinking of? If you don't say, they might fix some but not some that you are thinking of. Don't assume everybody knows what you are thinking.
You're right.
I'm going to do a few screen recordings to demonstrate the bugs I'm referring. Notes tend to glitch out when I'm typing and editing as I'm following along a sermon. The text cursor disappears. Entering a new line doesn't work correctly. Deleting text glitches out. It seems random to me. Restarting Logos fixes the problem temporarily, but as I type more the random glitches surface again which needs another restart. The cycle just repeats itself.
Edit: I've recorded a short clip that shows some of the issues I run into. The issues start happening at the 1:18 mark. As I'm trying to go back to edit a verse the text cursor jumping around when I'm trying to press "enter" to start a new line. Nothing out of the ordinary, but Notes freaks out.
At the 1:40 mark things get weirder with the text not appearing where I'm intending to type, but teleports to the correct place when I press enter.
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Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:
What new books should we include?
I know it’s a long shot...
and it’s not a new book...
but I would absolutely love if L9 would release some packages with Jonathan Edwards favorite old classic commentary The Family Expositor by Philip Doddridge. It has languished in community pricing for five years or so now because it’s relatively obscure. It’s phenomenal. And so worthy of Logos. Would love to have it available in digital.
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I have tried for years to get books out of CP that have been languishing in there for years. I've made suggestions that have gone nowhere. I hope you have better success.
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You're asking what new books should be included? What about the funding? I used to send Logos almost every day lists of books that I wanted to see included in it. I was surprised how many of these books have been sitting in CP for years. I can pull those lists out again.
Today I just purchased Notes on the Greek Text of Genesis, Exodus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy by John Wevers today. (4 books) I would buy them all over again in Logos.
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My long-time wish is easy (I think) to implement:
When the table of contents for a Bible expands to show all the chapters for a book, it fills the whole pane. So if you have expanded the chapters for several books, it's hard to scroll to a different book because you can't see where you are. It needs a button to Collapse All. Then you can easily see to find the book you want.
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I wish to be able to highlight superscript material. Thank you.
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Hi hope others will voice that they would like one or both of these too:
- The ability to make, print, and perhaps use in Logos/Verbum flash cards for vocabulary not just in the Bible, but in other works (Patrologiae volumes, Perseus-based resources, etc.), based on user-selected number of times the words appear in the work, and the lexicon of our choice. I would like to be able to make one set of flash cards for an Early Church Father's work for words that are used more than 20 times, another set for those used 10-20 times, etc., and have the choice not to include such common words as the article, conjunctions, etc.
- Right now the closest we can come to doing this is to generate a concordance, but the generated concordance doesn't take all forms of a word and put them together - I see one entry for a word in the nominative singular, another entry elsewhere for the same word in the genitive singular, etc. So for that matter, the concordance generation tool needs to be fixed.
Please do these things, and thanks for considering.
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This may seem a minor thing, but I think it's something that Logos changed and should be changed back. It seems closing a tab is not a two step process instead of one. Each tab has an icon and an X. If you click on the X of a closed tab, it won't remove the tab; it will open it. Then you can click the X again to remove the tab.
I may be using close a tab in a different way than how you use it. I usually have three panels open with 5 or more tabs in each panel. Obviously only one tab is open in each panel at a time. So when I want to 'clean house', I have to open a tab before I can remove it. That's a waste of my time, and Logos exists to save me time.
Too many little things, seconds here, seconds there, adds up and should be fixed.
Thank you
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Larry Craig said:
This may seem a minor thing, but I think it's something that Logos changed and should be changed back. It seems closing a tab is not a two step process instead of one. Each tab has an icon and an X. If you click on the X of a closed tab, it won't remove the tab; it will open it. Then you can click the X again to remove the tab.
I may be using close a tab in a different way than how you use it. I usually have three panels open with 5 or more tabs in each panel. Obviously only one tab is open in each panel at a time. So when I want to 'clean house', I have to open a tab before I can remove it. That's a waste of my time, and Logos exists to save me time.
Too many little things, seconds here, seconds there, adds up and should be fixed.
Thank you
Larry: this is not true for me. I move the cursor over a tab that is not currently visible, the X appears, i click it, the tab is closed.
I'm running on Mac OS:
Logos Bible Software 8.11 Beta 2
8.11.0.0009
(Update channel: beta)
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Sean Boisen said:
Larry: this is not true for me. I move the cursor over a tab that is not currently visible, the X appears, i click it, the tab is closed.
I'm running on Mac OS
Just to confirm: the same happens on Windows 10 (even faster and without waiting for the x to appear, aiming and hitting it, is to click the tab with the middle mouse button/scroll wheel)
Have joy in the Lord!
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