Information Tool

Damian McGrath
Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭
edited November 20 in English Forum

The tooltip for the Information Tool says, "The Information Tool shows more information about any word you point at with the mouse pointer."

It takes so long on my machine to do this that it appears to be broken.... 45 seconds when I hover over the word "demons".

When I hover over many footnotes, they refore to notes elsewhere. Eg. I hover over footnote 1 for Maark 3:23 in ICC Mark vol.1. It shows

There is no way from the info window to go to this reference.

Often, the window produces more information than I want. If I open the Hermeneia commentary on 1 Chronicles and go to the section on 1 Chron 22:2-5:

 

If I want to know what is the content of footnote 3, I get all of this and more:

When two references appear right next to each other, the preceding reference always seems to appear first. Then, it seems to show every upcoming reference. The first seems like a bug. The second is overkill for an information window.

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  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    When I hover over a Greek word... My preferred Greek Lexicon is accessed. This is great in theory. But my preferred lexicon is BDAG...

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    BDAG often has so much info prior to getting to the point that I'm not sure of its value for the information window. I don't know if there's a way around this.

    I wanted to know how much of this information could be copied and pasted: the whole BDAG article, the first paragraph???? But, when I use the copy feature and paste this information into Word 2007, this is what I see:

     

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  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
    Damian,



    "There is no way from the info window to go to this reference."



    The version 3 trick works for version 4 as well. Hold down the control key when you move the mouse to the info window. Info window will not update so long as the ctrl key is held down.



    As for speed, it is slow for me as well. I'm hoping optimizing fixes this. I loved the speed of the info window in v3, v4 is a little painful.



    I've noticed that footnotes will give info on more than one footnote. To me this is annoying but some might consider it a feature. I suspect it is a bug that will be fixed.
  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    Chris,

    Thanks for your response.  When I said."there is no way to go from the info window to this reference," I was referring to the fact that the footnote makes reference to an earlier place in the commentary, an earlier footnote, and I have to manually enter Mark 1:13 in ICC and then search myself for the note to that verse. Maybe, I'm asking too much of this function.Does clicking on "ibid" take one to the previous footnote?? Haven't seen one yet to test it...

    As to holding down the ctrl key to stop updating, I had forgotten about that.

  • Wes Saad
    Wes Saad Member Posts: 1,601 ✭✭✭
    I see, sorry for telling you what you know. :) As for as what you want to see, I'm not sure of a way to do that, but it sounds like a nice feature.
  • Fred Greco
    Fred Greco Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Damian,

    I'm not sure if I have something different, but I tried what you did (although I don't have BDAG) and I was able to copy into Word 2007 and have the Greek show up properly.  Maybe it is because I have the language bar set up?  Anyway, here's a screenshot:

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    Fred Greco
    Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
    Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    Maybe it is because I have the language bar set up?

    Thanks Fred. I'm not following. Is there something I can do in Windows, do you think, that may enable such copying and pasting?

  • Fred Greco
    Fred Greco Member Posts: 494 ✭✭

    Maybe it is because I have the language bar set up?

    Thanks Fred. I'm not following. Is there something I can do in Windows, do you think, that may enable such copying and pasting?

    Do you have the Logos keyboards installed on your PC?  It might be the interplay between the English keyboard and Greek keyboard.  It could also be the default paste function (are you using MS Word?). What is your default paste set to?  Can you set it to use source formatting?

    It might also be XP, like in the thread on pronunciation.

     

    Fred Greco
    Senior Pastor, Christ Church PCA, Katy, TX
    Windows 10 64-bit; Logos 7.1 SR-2 (Reformed Platinum)

  • Damian McGrath
    Damian McGrath Member Posts: 3,051 ✭✭✭

    It could also be the default paste function (are you using MS Word?). What is your default paste set to?  Can you set it to use source formatting?

    I tried again to copy and paste into Word 2007 from a BDAG entry in the Information tool and got the same garbled mess. If I change the font, it becomes all clear. How do I change the default paste behaviour in Word 2007? Should we be expected to change the settings in Word 2007 to get this to work?