Any particular passage in Old Testament ?
Screen shot shows pop-up from a Personal Book to customize Discourse questions => Suggestion: Discourse Greek NT more customizable
Lexham Discourse Hebrew Bible Dataset is usable in Bibles with Reverse Interlinear:
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Gregorio Billikopf
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Can someone share a few screenshots with tme of the Lexham Discourse Hebrew Bible Dataset so I can make an intelligent decision about purchasing this product. I am interested in the Old Testament portion. Thanks.
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Any particular passage in Old Testament ?
Screen shot shows pop-up from a Personal Book to customize Discourse questions => Suggestion: Discourse Greek NT more customizable
Lexham Discourse Hebrew Bible Dataset is usable in Bibles with Reverse Interlinear:
Keep Smiling [:)]
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Many thanks for these. Do you recommend this resource?
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Will it show up in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia: with Westminster Hebrew Morphology. (1996). (electronic ed.). Stuttgart; Glenside PA: German Bible Society; Westminster Seminary?
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I never use the reverse interlinears, but I notice it shows up in your ESV? Or am I understanding that incorrectly?
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Gregorio Billikopf said:
I never use the reverse interlinears,
In case you don't know, you may never see the reverse interlinear but many of the features of Logos depend upon it to work.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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How interesting. I did not know that. Do you recommend this resource, MJ?
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For someone like me who spends 90% of his time on the Old Testament and 10% on the NT.
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Gregorio Billikopf said:
Will it show up in Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia: with Westminster Hebrew Morphology. (1996). (electronic ed.). Stuttgart; Glenside PA: German Bible Society; Westminster Seminary?
Does in mine (SESB 2.0)
Regarding how useful, my thoughts:
1. If you say 80-90% OT, then why not? In areas I target, even loose info can still provide clues, as long as not terribly expensive. Hebrew doesn't have a big corpus to work with (especially narrowing into time periods). Clues matter.
2. Discourse, as a catch-all, tries to rise to the next level above morphs. It catches what native-hearers would automatically 'hear'. Quite often, it's word order, a repetition, a code glue-word, etc
3. The problem revolves around 'what's normal'. Greek has an extensive set of examples to 'hear' abnormal. Hebrew, however, is an iffy world ... limited examples, ancient, and same-family semitic bounciness. For example, one semitic sees word order as either way; another sees word order as important.
Again, if OT's your happiness, why not. One nice thing, is it keeps getting refined. It improves.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Many thanks, Denise, this was helpful!
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I basically agree with Denise with the addition that you might want to read a short introduction to discourse analysis.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Would Figures of Speech in the Bible count? I have read much of that.
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With a strong hint of levity sorely needed these days, MJ's sentence merits discourse analysis (an illustrative example).MJ. Smith said:I basically agree with Denise with the addition that you might want to read a short introduction to discourse analysis.
1. She intro'd her comment. She could have reversed the sentence. Did she wish to emphasize agree/add? Was a book on discourse secondary? Or was she using a common courtesy device to carry on a conversation (recognize previous points, and then continue)?
2. She qualified 'agree'. Did that mean she disagreed, but it wasn't important to her point? Or some, she agreed? If she had chosen 'generally agree', instead of 'basically agree, would that be more agree, or less?
3. And she prefaced her 'want' with might, reducing it's strength? She's not sure? Or she is, but another courtesy device?
4. She didn't qualify discourse by language. Did she mean not to? Or is discourse analysis common across langages?
Now, the writer (MJ) might be offended at all my exegetical permutations (as if the reader, me, is clueless). But normally, there'd be sentences and connectors ahead of the example, and more following. The 'discourse' structure would allow me not to appear so stupid.
Figures of speech are a different animal, unless how used in the structure.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Denise, your comments through me over the edge and I just purchased it. By the way, I have read a lot on discourse analysis in the field of psychology and communication, and interestingly, the field is dominated by women, who seem to have a special talent at the nuances involved. Thanks, Denise, MJ and Smiling.
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Thanks MJ.
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MJ,, I have been meaning to say, for a long time, that I love the quote in your signature: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."
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Thank you. Some quotes are too good to ever change ...
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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