What's the difference between Logos Research and Logos Reader?
Interesting. Good catch!
The answer can be found by clicking on the "?" when viewing the book in the library.
From those descriptions, I would gather a better formatted eBook.
More details at the updated page here: https://www.logos.com/logos-editions. It's related to https://www.logos.com/same-day-releases.
Thanks Phil
But it still looks as though these depend on customer interest to move into production as per https://www.logos.com/product/192482/the-gospel-beyond-the-gospels which was produced in 2017 but still not available in Logos
Is that correct or am I missing something?
I think it would be more accurate to say that Reader editions are lower quality ebooks.
More details at the updated page here: https://www.logos.com/logos-editions. It's related to https://www.logos.com/same-day-releases. Thanks Phil But it still looks as though these depend on customer interest to move into production as per https://www.logos.com/product/192482/the-gospel-beyond-the-gospels which was produced in 2017 but still not available in Logos Is that correct or am I missing something?
That's a great question. The wording on that page could be clearer.
While the majority of reader editions will go straight into production, there will be some reader editions that depend on customer interest to move into production. The difference is that they will require less customer interest.
I assume that if these migrate to Logos editions, the users will get the updated version?
This seems Similar to my suggestion of having a Vyrso title given to those who pre-order a book.
I assume that if these migrate to Logos editions, the users will get the updated version? This seems Similar to my suggestion of having a Vyrso title given to those who pre-order a book.
These are Logos editions already so if we added functionality (i.e. updated it to a research edition) it would show up in the same way that current updates to Logos editions would show up automatically (e.g. a typo fix or new markup to support a new feature/dataset).
These are Logos editions already
Sorry to be pedantic, but that doesn't make sense. You have just introduced a new "edition" type which didn't exist before. If you decide to give them more functionality, then they would become a different "edition" type, right?
These are Logos editions already Sorry to be pedantic, but that doesn't make sense. You have just introduced a new "edition" type which didn't exist before. If you decide to give them more functionality, then they would become a different "edition" type, right?
I must say I’m worried and confused about this. I’m hoping we aren’t getting ebooks at logos prices just for the sake of speed. Quality is better to me
These are Logos editions already Sorry to be pedantic, but that doesn't make sense. You have just introduced a new "edition" type which didn't exist before. If you decide to give them more functionality, then they would become a different "edition" type, right? I must say I’m worried and confused about this. I’m hoping we aren’t getting ebooks at logos prices just for the sake of speed. Quality is better to me
That is not the intent. The intent is to identify books that don't necessarily require full markup but wouldn't necessarily make sense as just an ebook. Rather than stick those books on pre-pub and wait for costs to be covered for a full markup or not do them at all, we wanted to find a way to get them into Logos.
The quality will be the same as any existing Logos resource. The difference is the level of markup.
Note that we are calling out on the product pages when a book is a reader edition so you will know before you place an order.
That seems to be a contradiction. The way some may see it, the less markup, the lower the quality.
The whole premise of Logos is that its power comes from being able to use its tools and features to quickly find information due to the Logos edition markup.
The notion of a partial markup book seems inferior, even inadequate, to a full markup book. A Logos Reader edition may not appear in some results because it lacks “the robust treatment given to reference works.”
This is very similar to something I hoped for a few years ago. I know I reveal a lot of ignorance there [:P] and there are differences (in purpose, in results, and in other ways), but it would be easy to make a case for a huge chunk of the types of things that have been fully tagged to be candidates for a Readers Edition.
May I ask what is tagged in the reader edition that is not tagged in the ebook edition?
What extra Marked Up are there in the reader edition that is searchable which is not searchable in the ebook edition
The best explanation for this was one that offered what is at the root of all change motivation towards a perceived goal. Ben summarized.
We decided to introduce Logos reader editions for a number of reasons, but here are the three biggest: 1. To expand our catalog beyond what we would normally offer by keeping production costs down. Reader editions allow us to include books in our catalog that would otherwise not make it into Logos. While they don’t’ have the full markup of a research editions, they are significantly better than ebooks.2. To release more books at the same day as the publisher. The announcement of Reader Editions coincides with our announcement about Same-day releases. Our goal is to co-release a majority of academic resources from 5 of the major publishers the same day they are released by the publisher (we’ve been doing this since November but wanted to make sure we were able to consistently deliver before we made a public announcement). 3. To offer better pricing. Where possible, we plan to have the lower production costs reflected in the price we sell the book for. We can’t always do this because we don’t always control prices. But where we can, we will.
We decided to introduce Logos reader editions for a number of reasons, but here are the three biggest:
1. To expand our catalog beyond what we would normally offer by keeping production costs down. Reader editions allow us to include books in our catalog that would otherwise not make it into Logos. While they don’t’ have the full markup of a research editions, they are significantly better than ebooks.2. To release more books at the same day as the publisher. The announcement of Reader Editions coincides with our announcement about Same-day releases. Our goal is to co-release a majority of academic resources from 5 of the major publishers the same day they are released by the publisher (we’ve been doing this since November but wanted to make sure we were able to consistently deliver before we made a public announcement). 3. To offer better pricing. Where possible, we plan to have the lower production costs reflected in the price we sell the book for. We can’t always do this because we don’t always control prices. But where we can, we will.
I have calmed down now and I for one will support this change. But, if the ship should be headed for the shoals I shall sound the alarm. Carry on FL I am with you. Thanks, for your years of innovation and service.
Surprised no one has given the simple answer.
7,418.
How simple did you want:
At least that's what I thought has been said.
It was a math joke.