What's the difference between Logos Research and Logos Reader?
Interesting. Good catch!
The answer can be found by clicking on the "?" when viewing the book in the library.
From those descriptions, I would gather a better formatted eBook.
More details at the updated page here: https://www.logos.com/logos-editions. It's related to https://www.logos.com/same-day-releases.
Thanks Phil
But it still looks as though these depend on customer interest to move into production as per https://www.logos.com/product/192482/the-gospel-beyond-the-gospels which was produced in 2017 but still not available in Logos
Is that correct or am I missing something?
I think it would be more accurate to say that Reader editions are lower quality ebooks.
From those descriptions, I would gather a better formatted eBook. I think it would be more accurate to say that Reader editions are lower quality ebooks.
No; this is inaccurate.
"eBooks" (as an edition in Logos) are produced by an entirely automated process.
Logos Reader editions are still produced manually, just not with as many features or tagging as a Logos Research edition.
Are ALL the superscripts functional, Brad?? Can I click the number and stabilize the box, so I can read its contents?
More details at the updated page here: https://www.logos.com/logos-editions. It's related to https://www.logos.com/same-day-releases. Thanks Phil But it still looks as though these depend on customer interest to move into production as per https://www.logos.com/product/192482/the-gospel-beyond-the-gospels which was produced in 2017 but still not available in Logos Is that correct or am I missing something?
That's a great question. The wording on that page could be clearer.
While the majority of reader editions will go straight into production, there will be some reader editions that depend on customer interest to move into production. The difference is that they will require less customer interest.
Logos Reader editions are still produced manually, just not with as many features or tagging as a Logos Research edition. Are ALL the superscripts functional, Brad?? Can I click the number and stabilize the box, so I can read its contents?
My question is getting bypassed.
I ask again for an answer.
The page on this issue is vague, because it is ''marketing-written''. Best for me would be a chart with checked-off boxes detailing what features are provided for each type of volume.
Please step up, FL employees.
I have read the whole thread so far and still would like to see a clearer explanation. The more I read, the clearer it became. But it is still vague, not clear. I like the idea and the reasoning behind the idea, but I am still unclear as to what this is.
Two types of Logos editions seems to mean that there are the usual editions (Logos Gold, Silver etc) and now there is a new edition called reader. Are there Reader packages? or are they only resources? How will we know what resource is a research resource or a reader resource?
Actually, if what I have written so far is accurate, then there are now 3 editions: Research, Reader and ebook.
As I wrote, if I understand this (and I am not sure I do), then I like the idea of hopefully seeing books that are not currently in digital format that are sitting on my desk, finally be put into digital format, even if only in Reader edition.
But please correct my understanding if this is way off the mark.
Two types of Logos editions seems to mean that there are the usual editions (Logos Gold, Silver etc) and now there is a new edition called reader.
No. There were Logos editions (filter the library by edition:l ) and ebooks (formerly Vyrso and Noet eBooks, edition:e ) and PBs, user-created, thus edition:u . Faithlife sold only Logos editions in the base packages (Gold, Silver whatever) and on Logos.com and Verbum.com - even if those books in some cases didn't have tagging.
Are there Reader packages? or are they only resources?
They are always and only resources. Even the resources that have "Readers Edition" in their title are still Logos Research editions from the way they are produced and designated in Logos. The publishers leave off the footnotes, thus making them cheaper to produce and more appealing to less academic minded customers. Technically there is only one resource in all of the say 50k resources available for Logos that has been designated as edition:"logos reader".
How will we know what resource is a research resource or a reader resource?
It says so on the product page
there are now 3 editions: Research, Reader and ebook. yes, but plus User = PBs, so it's four
I like the idea of hopefully seeing books that are not currently in digital format that are sitting on my desk, finally be put into digital format, even if only in Reader edition.
That's my hope as well.
What I meant was: How will I know in my Logos Library (not the product page) which resources are research and which are reader? In other words, which resources have less functionality and I should expect less functionality.
How will I know in my Logos Library (not the product page) which resources are research and which are reader? In other words, which resources have less functionality and I should expect less functionality.
I understand your point but I'm already in that situation - which resources work with <biography Justin Martyr> versus "Justin Martyr" is the case discussed in the forums a couple of days ago.
I'm not really enthused at all about this. Logos is not Kindle and it's users didn't purchase the program for a reading library. This seems to me to be a waste of time and resources for a program that's devoted to Bible study and its related fields. I hope this is a short venture.
This is very similar to something I hoped for a few years ago. I know I reveal a lot of ignorance there [:P] and there are differences (in purpose, in results, and in other ways), but it would be easy to make a case for a huge chunk of the types of things that have been fully tagged to be candidates for a Readers Edition.
May I ask what is tagged in the reader edition that is not tagged in the ebook edition?
What extra Marked Up are there in the reader edition that is searchable which is not searchable in the ebook edition
The best explanation for this was one that offered what is at the root of all change motivation towards a perceived goal. Ben summarized.
We decided to introduce Logos reader editions for a number of reasons, but here are the three biggest: 1. To expand our catalog beyond what we would normally offer by keeping production costs down. Reader editions allow us to include books in our catalog that would otherwise not make it into Logos. While they don’t’ have the full markup of a research editions, they are significantly better than ebooks.2. To release more books at the same day as the publisher. The announcement of Reader Editions coincides with our announcement about Same-day releases. Our goal is to co-release a majority of academic resources from 5 of the major publishers the same day they are released by the publisher (we’ve been doing this since November but wanted to make sure we were able to consistently deliver before we made a public announcement). 3. To offer better pricing. Where possible, we plan to have the lower production costs reflected in the price we sell the book for. We can’t always do this because we don’t always control prices. But where we can, we will.
We decided to introduce Logos reader editions for a number of reasons, but here are the three biggest:
1. To expand our catalog beyond what we would normally offer by keeping production costs down. Reader editions allow us to include books in our catalog that would otherwise not make it into Logos. While they don’t’ have the full markup of a research editions, they are significantly better than ebooks.2. To release more books at the same day as the publisher. The announcement of Reader Editions coincides with our announcement about Same-day releases. Our goal is to co-release a majority of academic resources from 5 of the major publishers the same day they are released by the publisher (we’ve been doing this since November but wanted to make sure we were able to consistently deliver before we made a public announcement). 3. To offer better pricing. Where possible, we plan to have the lower production costs reflected in the price we sell the book for. We can’t always do this because we don’t always control prices. But where we can, we will.
I have calmed down now and I for one will support this change. But, if the ship should be headed for the shoals I shall sound the alarm. Carry on FL I am with you. Thanks, for your years of innovation and service.
On the one hand, I fear the slippery slope.
On the other hand, some many "Logos editions" I have in my library are very lacking in hyperlinks to other resources that would be expected. It's almost a roll of the dice when you get a new book anyway.
Also, I do understand that much of the tagging is probably not very useful for a lot resources, like the Armchair Theologians series as M.J. pointed out.
Surprised no one has given the simple answer.
7,418.
How simple did you want:
At least that's what I thought has been said.
It was a math joke.
