Subject and Finite Verb (Opentext.org)
Answering the question from http://community.logos.com/forums/p/14537/111469.aspx#111469
Donald E Shaw said:Will someone help show me how I
could go a bit deeper here and say find the subj and the finite verb in a
NT passage using Open Text.org. I have read all the posts i can find
and still not understanding how to best do this basic search. Thanks in
advance to those who help teach us how to better use this great
program.
Here's my search based on your criteria
Clause 1 is listed as a Primary clause so it will identify only main clauses, not embedded or secondary (dependent clauses). I used an unordered group because word order can vary w/ NT Greek. Then the two clause components identify the subject and the verb.
So basically this search will identify all primary clauses in Opentext that have an explicit subject and a verb (Predicator). Note that this search will return a great deal of hits so if you try it I recommend using it on a limited pericope. Otherwise your computer may churn for a long time finding hits.
Does this answer your questions? Are you hoping for the syntax search to give different results than what this search does? If so, how?
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Yes this is what i needed to help with specific text. Thank you and I am sure this will help others who type in the search for this topic.
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Kevin can you show me how I would do this in the Lexham Syntatic Greek NT also?
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Donald E Shaw said:
Kevin can you show me how I would do this in the Lexham Syntatic Greek NT also?
I don't believe so. Lexham is more about identifying how clauses fit together. As far as I can tell it is not interesting in tagging Subjects and Verbs (I would be happy to be wrong on this, but I can't figure out how to do this search in with Lexham). I could accomplish this search in Cascadia, so here's that search.
Prov. 15:23
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Thanks again for all your help. Looks like a upgrade from Scholar's to Silver is in my near future...LOL
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Kevin Becker said:
Here's my search based on your criteria
Clause 1 is listed as a Primary clause so it will identify only main clauses, not embedded or secondary (dependent clauses). I used an unordered group because word order can vary w/ NT Greek. Then the two clause components identify the subject and the verb.
Kevin,
i've added this example to Setting up a Syntax Search as
Example
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steve clark said:
i've added this example to Setting up a Syntax Search as
Example
2 [Subject & Finite Verb in NT using OpenText]Just what I was thinking! A final example would be my last attempt at Genitive Absolute in http://community.logos.com/forums/p/13018/101366.aspx (the first structure is the one to document).
Thanks,
Dave
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Dave Hooton said:
A final example would be my last attempt at Genitive Absolute in http://community.logos.com/forums/p/13018/101366.aspx (the first structure is the one to document).
is this the one? http://community.logos.com/forums/p/13018/101233.aspx#101233
if so, it uses Cascadia (i don't have it). Does it need to be Cascadia? Or is the general query setup what you are after?
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steve clark said:
is this the one? http://community.logos.com/forums/p/13018/101233.aspx#101233
if so, it uses Cascadia (i don't have it). Does it need to be Cascadia? Or is the general query setup what you are after
Cascadia is probably the simplest to use and the refinements over OpenText demand another example. So I'll do that one (you have provided a good template to follow!).
Dave
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