Wordsearch Moving to Logos Bible Software

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) said:

We are beginning to ship out some of the new books that weren't available in the Logos library. A couple notes:

1. We wanted to get these books out and available to Wordsearch users as soon as possible. Rather than wait until the book was a complete Logos resource to ship it, we decided to batch create and ship Faithlife ebook versions that we will update to Logos resources. These ebooks will have basic functionality but not all the tagging that comes in a Logos resource (because they are batch produced, they could contain typos or strange formatting). We will begin work immediately to update these resources. We plan to have them all updated by the end of 2020.

2. This is the first batch of many. If you're waiting for a book and don't see it, it's coming in a future batch.

We're very excited to add these titles to the library and are looking forward to adding many more.

That's great Ben!  I was looking at my list of titles coming over and was getting a bit nervous about some study bibles coming over as ebooks.

Ben Amundgaard (Faithlife) said:

Mark Smith said:

EDIT: Also this is posted in the General Forum. I'd suggest a re-post in the Wordsearch Forum.

Good call. I'll post it in the WS forum.

Is there a master list somewhere of books that have already gotten the text in Logos and books that are waiting to be imported?

Still waiting for my titles to come over... had thousands... not a single one yet [:'(] 

Emailed support with a download to a copy of my licenses & can also send my library list if needed... I know my account may have been a little wonky as a former employee

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) said:

Mattillo said:

How do we figure out the title of a WS book via it's ID?  I was looking at my list of titles transferring over and two (2) were unknows.

In your Wordsearch program directory, there's a booklist.xml file that can help you figure this out. Look at the pubnum and booknum attributes. See https://community.logos.com/forums/p/193934/1118007.aspx#1118007 for details.

We also plan to add more details to our system to clear up some of these "Unknown" values; it's "just" a matter of data in one system not yet being loaded into a different system.

I have both Logos Now and Wordsearch Perks. The codes for the free books given each month for subscribing to each program appear to be the same. 

I tried to pick my free books for my Wordsearch Perks membership this month, entered the code, and was told that the code was invalide. 

Thank in advance for your help. 

Jesse 

I own Wordsearch and Logos. I've been offered a 50% discount for updating Essential Features because of the move of Wordsearch to Logos. However, when clicking the link to buy the update the cost is shown in teh basket as full price. I assume this is an error!

Hope this can be sorted.

Thanks

Anthony  

I don't wish to sound negative but I wake up on 20 September with this 'fait accompli' Wordsearch moving to Logos Bible Software.

My concern relates to handling customer information.  On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not. So my questions are:

    1. What other information may have been used to support this and to compare customer detail? and;

    2. What safeguards were/are in place with the transfer of information?;

    3. It maybe some detail in a profile  did not wished to be shared in this way so how is it protected?

Nowhere in the documents listed could I find  reference to privacy information ( I am happy to be corrected).

Do not get me wrong. I have used both programs for many years and understand there are benefits in the 'transition' although speaking personally it will prove difficult.

Getting back to my concerns, both WS and Logos have privacy policies. Is it possible for some Logos official to comment on how these policies guided the transition; the affects privacy the transition has and confirm that arrangements meet the privacy policy of both organisations.

Thank you in anticipation.

Colin Ware

David Thomas said:

Mattillo said:

How do we figure out the title of a WS book via it's ID?  I was looking at my list of titles transferring over and two (2) were unknows.

It would be GREAT if we could search https://wordsearchbible.lifeway.com/store by ID!

And less than 24 hours later the wonderful team at Faithlife provides both my personalized library (https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration) And a listing of the entire WS library by resource number (https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/catalog) ! AWESOME job guys and gals!

Kolen Cheung said:

Bradley Grainger (Faithlife) said:

I'm not seeing Tozer on Christian Leadership in your Wordsearch licenses. Can you confirm the version you have in Wordsearch by going to the Library, right-clicking on that book, choosing Properties, and copying the Book ID?

Thanks. I don't have a local install of Wordsearch. Would the web app link be enough? https://app.wordsearchbible.lifeway.com/library/title/005635607

I found that the book id is 0:1725. Thanks.

Almost a week later and still none of my Wordsearch titles have migrated to Logos (according to https://www.logos.com/wordsearch/library-migration, which I check regularly). 

Should I be concerned? How many users are still waiting?

Thanks

Chris

Colin Ware said:

I don't wish to sound negative but I wake up on 20 September with this 'fait accompli' Wordsearch moving to Logos Bible Software.

My concern relates to handling customer information.  On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not. So my questions are:

    1. What other information may have been used to support this and to compare customer detail? and;

    2. What safeguards were/are in place with the transfer of information?;

    3. It maybe some detail in a profile  did not wished to be shared in this way so how is it protected?

Nowhere in the documents listed could I find  reference to privacy information ( I am happy to be corrected).

Do not get me wrong. I have used both programs for many years and understand there are benefits in the 'transition' although speaking personally it will prove difficult.

Getting back to my concerns, both WS and Logos have privacy policies. Is it possible for some Logos official to comment on how these policies guided the transition; the affects privacy the transition has and confirm that arrangements meet the privacy policy of both organisations.

Thank you in anticipation.

Colin Ware

I don't understand about the privacy concern here. Logos (Faithlife) acquired WORDsearch and therefore whatever info you revealed to WORDsearch should be and has to be available to Faithlife (else how can they make the transition for you?)

May be what you want is some sort of consent. The only thing they did that is slightly scary is the auto-merging of the 2 libraries but then they said that you can request them to undo this.

I think they want to make it as seamless as possible and at the same time as it is not an irreversible process that I think it is as good as it can be.

MJ. Smith said:

Colin Ware said:

On the basis of ' a common email address' there is a sharing of information whether we like it or not.

Rather than sharing the data, I think it is more accurate to say the data was sold to Faithhlife Inc. together with the responsibility to provide certain functions and products that LifeWay would no longer provide. Put another way, LifeWay sold the contract that you had with LifeWay to Faithlife ... similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.

Well said, MJ 👍😁👌

David Taylor Jr said:

MJ. Smith said:

similar to how banks may sell your mortgage to other banks or the conversions in a bank merger.

Which has much more sensitive info.

Why even worry about it? Most people have already had their identity stolen and they don’t even know it! 

DAL

Wearing a tin foil hat will allow one to blend into the general population and keep an identity secret. [;)]

Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉

abondservant said:

Paul Caneparo said:

Don't suppose we'll get a weekly free book today. 😉😉

The weekly free books were nice!

We pretty much get that, but all up front as it is.

Verbum, Logos, faithlife ebooks, etc.

This thread shows much of that:
https://community.logos.com/forums/t/193901.aspx

You could probably add a thousand volumes or so (perseus if you're into OL Studies) to your logos library if you add them all today.

I was a Faithlife customer anyway.  Most of my WordSearch books were the free ones!

Implementation of LessonMaker Questions for Adults.

Can you do this in two phases?

Phase 1) Just get the questions out there.

Phase 2) Do it the best way.