Please explain how these resources will tie into L9
In the features section there are a number of "All the......" resources that are in development. A few have recently been added to my library. The start as a monograph and then change to a commentary, but not one that, at least yet, will populate in the Passage guide. Can someone explain how these are best to be utilized in L9? I am trying to figure out how to tag them and then incorporate them into my studies.
Here is a list:
Thanks.
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They were built with Factbook in mind. Each of the articles should also be an entry that can be found in Factbook.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Since they are topical it seems Bible concordance may be a better type than commentary or monograph. Or maybe a new type for factbook. i will just wait and see when you are finished to decide on tagging. Thanks.
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In WS I used "All the Mesianic Prophecies" and "All the Parables" and some of the others a lot. I like Herbert Lockyer works. For the most part Herbert has done good research into his work. If you don't have them, they are worth getting.
When it comes to doing research for a sermon or study.... can one have tooo much research material? hmmm....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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They were built with Factbook in mind. Each of the articles should also be an entry that can be found in Factbook.
Can you please elaborate on exactly how they will work with the Factbook? This has been the biggest mystery for me when trying to decide on an upgrade level.
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Since, as I understand it, Factbook (FB) searches almost all things... I would think FB would search through the "All" books also. Why not?
But I am still learning the ins and outs of FB. I like what I see so far..
One thing I have not learned... can I set up books for FB to search through... like a collection or tags or something and tell FB to search them?
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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Kiyah said:
Can you please elaborate on exactly how they will work with the Factbook?
The resource features an article for every occurrence of whatever type the resource is focused on. Articles in the resource show up as entries in Factbook whose Key Article is an excerpt from the resource.
These Factbook pages can be related to other Factbook pages, and you can find links in the See Also section that represent this relationship. So, the Factbook page for "Jesus" and "Jesus Walks on Water" are linked to each other in their See Also section.
The existence the Factbook pages and the relationships between the pages does not require a license to the "All the * in the Bible" resources, but the Key Article and resource do require the license.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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xnman said:
can I set up books for FB to search through... like a collection or tags or something and tell FB to search them?
No, but you can do this by customizing a Topic Guide.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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The existence the Factbook pages and the relationships between the pages does not require a license to the "All the * in the Bible" resources, but the Key Article and resource do require the license.
But wouldn't they require the corresponding datasets for the Factbook pages to work?
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Kiyah said:
But wouldn't they require the corresponding datasets for the Factbook pages to work?
The dataset that powers the rest of these Factbook pages (besides the Key Article) is the Logos Controlled Vocabulary Dataset, which you already own. https://www.logos.com/product/25628/logos-controlled-vocabulary-dataset
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Kiyah said:
But wouldn't they require the corresponding datasets for the Factbook pages to work?
The dataset that powers the rest of these Factbook pages (besides the Key Article) is the Logos Controlled Vocabulary Dataset, which you already own. https://www.logos.com/product/25628/logos-controlled-vocabulary-dataset
So the "All the...in the Bible" datasets connect the "All the...in the Bible" library resources to the Key Article section in the Factbook. Am I understanding that correctly?
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The library resources themselves enable Factbook to display them as a Key Article.
The datasets enable you to search your Bibles for instances of the things this data is tagging. For example, you could search for {Label Miracle WHERE Agent ~ <Person Paul>} to find all the Miracles where Paul was the agent of that miracle. Each dataset has its own distinct list of properties that can be searched for.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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For example, you could search for {Label Miracle WHERE Agent ~ <Person Paul>} to find all the Miracles where Paul was the agent of that miracle. Each dataset has its own distinct list of properties that can be searched for.
And where will the search be documented? I don't see it in the resource.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Oookay....This is going to me up as being a newbie.... so be it...
{Label Miracle WHERE Agent ~ <Person Paul>}
I see many posts that have some sort of search like the one above this line.
How does one learn how to do all these formula searches and what the formula is? I have tried a couple of my own... and sat there and stared at a blank screen as results... so it is very apparent I don't know how to write these special formulas....
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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MJ. Smith said:
And where will the search be documented? I don't see it in the resource.
I'm sorry, I don't have an answer to that, and some key people are not available for answering such questions at this time.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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The easiest way to do/learn these searches is to find an example using the right click menu and start a search from there. Then edit it to match what you need, and rely on autocomplete as needed.
Example:
Right click on "Beginning" in John 1:1. On the left side of the context menu, find and select an Intertext label. Pick one that has similar properties to what you might be interested in. You might need to expand one of the groups of items to find one. Then from the right side, select the Basic search option. This will open a new search panel with as search like this: {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ "Apostolic Fathers" AND Relationship ~ "Allusion" AND Target ~ <ApostolicFathers Ignatius to the Ephesians 15.1–2>}
If you want to find all other Allusions in the Apostolic Fathers, edit the search text to look more like this: {Label Intertext WHERE Corpus ~ "Apostolic Fathers" AND Relationship ~ "Allusion"}
Also, many datasets have associated documentation that can be found in your library by using the sidebar to filter on the type "Manual". Some of these resources will provide details on constructing searches for that dataset.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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Andrew Batishko.......
Thank you, thank you, thank you. That is very helpful. Believe me, I have searched and searched.... Thank you.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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MJ. Smith said:
For example, you could search for {Label Miracle WHERE Agent ~ <Person Paul>} to find all the Miracles where Paul was the agent of that miracle. Each dataset has its own distinct list of properties that can be searched for.
And where will the search be documented? I don't see it in the resource.
That's an oversight on my part MJ: we should add to the Introduction (which each of these resources should eventually have) to indicate how to do label searches. I'll add this to our task list.
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Thanks Sean
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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xnman said:
How does one learn how to do all these formula searches and what the formula is?
Verbum Tip 4ae: Bible Browser: Proverbs - Faithlife Forums (logos.com)
Verbum Tip 4ad: Bible Browser: Parables of the Bible - Faithlife Forums (logos.com)
Verbum Tip 4ac: Bible Browser: Theophanies of the Bible - Faithlife Forums (logos.com)
et.al. provide examples, points you to the documentation etc.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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The library resources themselves enable Factbook to display them as a Key Article.
The datasets enable you to search your Bibles for instances of the things this data is tagging. For example, you could search for {Label Miracle WHERE Agent ~ <Person Paul>} to find all the Miracles where Paul was the agent of that miracle. Each dataset has its own distinct list of properties that can be searched for.
Thanks Andrew!
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MJ. Smith ........
I didn't think I had Bible Browser but looks like I do.... I will explore it... Thanks.
xn = Christan man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".
Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!
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xnman said:
I didn't think I had Bible Browser but looks like I do.... I will explore it... Thanks.
It is not all dependent on the Bible Browser - the browser is simply the organizing principle for this section.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I am running Verbum 9.1. I have Verbum Platinum. I have several of the "All the ..." resources, including "All the Miracles in the Bible". When I enter "Jesus Turns Water Into Wine", which is one of the entries in that resource, the Factbook does not link to that as a key article. Based on what I've read in this thread I would have expected it to. Here are the screenshots, one from the Factbook, the other from the resource "All the Miracles in the Bible".
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I can confirm Greg's finding regarding "All the Miracles". It does show in the dropdown list in Factbook as "miracle", just not linking the key article.
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Greg Rose said:
When I enter "Jesus Turns Water Into Wine", which is one of the entries in that resource, the Factbook does not link to that as a key article.
Yup, this is a bug we caught a couple days ago that applies to that specific resource (and perhaps one other). It is fixed and should be available in an upcoming beta.
For now, this should work correctly at https://app.logos.com/tools/factbook if you are anxious to try it out.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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It works in Beta 2 9.2 on Verbum, I suspect they sneaked the fix in before beta 2 came out?
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Pater Noster said:
It works in Beta 2 9.2 on Verbum, I suspect they sneaked the fix in before beta 2 came out?
Ah, great! I couldn't recall the exact timing on when the fix went in.
Andrew Batishko | Logos software developer
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