How is this still not a feature on the mobile apps in 2021? I have read posts from 2014 and before suggesting that the feature was right around the corner, in beta testing even. Any word on this?
Greetings Mason,
As I understand it there is little hope of personal books coming to the mobile app until a way can be found to make sure that the books are really personal not scanned reproductions of copyrighted material.
Again, as I understand it, Faithlife, perhaps a little naïvely, imagined the personal books would be made up from notes or even original writing, however, it seems that quite a lot were made from copyright material.
I imagine that there are some legal implications if Faithlife hosts and distributes such material on its servers.
Having said that I'm sure that if you can think of a way through the conundrum they will be very glad to hear from you :-)
Thanks for the info Mike. I definitely understand their hesitation from that point of view.
I am just desperate for a way to get inline bible verses with my personal books. As someone who prefers to look up each provided passage it takes forever to read my non logos books. Was excited to load up my non logos books to read on my iPad, yet I can only do so on my desktop, which is not conducive to longer reading sessions.
Unfortunately, I don't have a solution to the issue you described, hopefully one can be found soon.
Actually, I do but few would like it.
1. Have folk sign up for a personal book compact.
2. Have each uploaded book go through an algorithm to detect substantial copyright material.
3. If no copyright infringements then allow through.
4. If copyright infringements found invoke the compact which would allow Faithlife to purchase the resource from either their own stock or another supplier. Add a 20% handling fee and charge the registered credit card.
Some folks would have no problem with this - others?
Unfortunately, I don't have a solution to the issue you described, hopefully one can be found soon. Actually, I do but few would like it. 1. Have folk sign up for a personal book compact.
“COMPACT” is not yet defined. Assume that user agrees to purchase, at cost plus, any copyrighted material found in their PBB.
Will require FL to have a database of every work under copyright from all over the world. Vast expense for FL or the publishers who set up that database of all copyrighted works and maintain it.
Kills all fair use items. And how sensitive will the copyright algorithm be?
In the US we can criticize someone’s copyrighted work. That derivative work might copy half the work followed by our discussion on the work. Would the algorithm toss it out?
In music we are allowed to, for our own use only, change the format of a musical recording. [From CD to MP3 for example to play on our device that is not a CD player]
It is a little murky whether the statements forbidding us to change formats of written or eworks will hold up in court. [when for our own use only] But a work that we changed from a printed or Word Search or Accordance or Step format to a PBB ‘might be legal’ but would not pass the algorithm
Would we be given the opportunity to not ‘purchase the resource’ – that would mean that the resource would not upload. [maybe we just uploaded it a year early as it clears copyright next year] And why is this not being done for the PBBs that upload to another computer? – Maybe keep all PBB off FL servers!
I would remove the Upload option for PBB and install a SCAN for loading PBB. That way we would have full control and responsibility for our PBB. [SCAN like the function that is used to add all our PBBs loaded on to a flash drive and transferred to a second computer. FL has a SCAN function for loading FL resources to computers and mobiles they just do not let us use it on mobiles. They transfer the file to the unit and do the equivalent of a SCAN to add the resource to the library]
FL says it wants to offer every religious book ever written but they are not interested in offering the books I am interested in as those books will not pass the community pricing nor pre pub tests. [[I want them but only 5 or so other FL customers would also want them so they fail the community pricing and pre pub tests. Please note that those pricing tests the keep FL in business]] So I add them as my private PBB [and I do not share]
FWIW, Bob listed a large number of reasons why we weren't (and still aren't) developing PBB on Mobile, but copyrighted works wasn't mentioned till the 12th paragraph: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/126859/848584.aspx#848584
It's a concern, but it's not the primary reason we're not working on this.
Thanks, Bradley, I've just marked Bob's post as a favourite. Always good to read it through again.
So this is still the stance 4+ years on from this response?
I am trying to find an intuitive way to read my books, that Logos doesn't offer, with the convenience of an inline bible. If Logos were to offer these books in the store I would gladly purchase them.
Point being, should I just move on from the idea that I can have continuity between my desktop and iOS apps?
