Why is everyone making such a big deal about Catena Aurea? (Or "what's in it for me?")
Now that the George Müller collection is on its way, Catena Aurea is the next great buy in Community Pricing. With current bidding going as it has been, it looks like this gem will be available for $20 or less. We're getting close to 80% of production cost.
Community Pricing is an awesome way to get works for the least expensive price imaginable. For example, the Müller collection went for $15 in community pricing, and pre-pub is now $79.95; sale price once it ships will be $129.95. And the nice hardback edition on Amazon.com costs $139.95:
For anyone who has no idea what the Catena Aurea (Latin for "Golden Chain") is, "[Catenae are] collections of excerpts from the writings of Biblical commentators, especially the Fathers and early ecclesiastical writers, strung together like the links of a chain, and in this way exhibiting a continuous and connected interpretation of a given text of Scripture. It has been well said that they are exegetical anthologies....The most famous of the medieval Latin compilations of this kind is that of St. Thomas Aquinas, generally known as the "Catena Aurea" (Golden Catena) and containing excerpts from some eighty Greek and Latin commentators on the Gospels....Since the sixteenth century much industry has been expended in collecting, collating, and editing these exegetical remains of the early Christian Fathers, fully one-half of whose commentaries...have reached us in this way." (from New Advent, the Catholic Encyclopedia).
Why should we care to read (or at least have reference access to) these writings? (Perhaps Protestants in particular might be asking this question.) Because the Early Church Fathers are the closest interpreters of Scripture to the people who lived it and wrote it. Unlike the ECF collection, this work is arranged by Scripture reference, so it will work like a commentary and be able to scroll with your Bibles. The Ancient Christian Commentary on Scripture (only the first volume of which is out in Logos format yet) would be really nice to have, but it's exorbitantly priced ($379.95 for one volume). But you can get your very own ancient Christian commentary on the Gospels for only $20. Why wouldn't everyone want to go for this??!!
OK, so who are these "eighty Greek and Latin commentators" on the Gospels? I found this table in the front of one volume of edition of the Catena Aurea that was available on on Google Books. I looked up all these people (most of whom were familiar names) and have provided links to more info on them, in Logos where available. Here's my key:
131CESK = 131 Christians Everyone Should Know (in all base packages except Original Languages)
ODCC = Oxford Dictionary of the Christian Church (in base packages from Scholar's on up)
Table of Fathers, Doctors, and Commentators, out of whom the Catena Aurea on the Four Gospels is gathered.
Cent. III.
Origen (131CESK) - Alexandrian biblical critic, exegete, theologian, and spiritual writer; analyzed the Scriptures on three levels: the literal, the moral, and the allegorical
Cyprian (ODCC) - pagan rhetorician converted to Christianity; acquired acquired a profound knowledge of the Scriptures and the writings of Tertullian; elected bishop of Carthage; martyred in 258
Cent. IV.
Eusebius (131CESK) - Bishop of Caesarea; author of Ecclesiastical History, the principal source for the history of Christianity from the Apostolic Age till his own day; also wrote a valuable work on Biblical topography called the Onomasticon
Athanasius (131CESK) - Bishop of Alexandria; attended the Council of Nicea; opposed Arianism, in defence of the faith proclaimed at Nicaea—that is, the true deity of God the Son
Hilary (ODCC) - Bishop of Poitiers; the earliest known writer of hymns in the Western Church; defended the cause of orthodoxy against Arianism; became the leading Latin theologian of his age
Gregory of Nazianzus (ODCC) - one of the "Cappadocian Fathers"; a great influence in restoring the Nicene faith and leading to its final establishment at the Council of Constantinople in 381
Gregory of Nyssa (ODCC) - one of the "Cappadocian Fathers"; Bishop of Nyssa; took part in the Council of Constantinople
Ambrose (131CESK) - Bishop of Milan; partly responsible for the conversion of Augustine; author of Latin hymns; it was through his influence that hymns became an integral part of the liturgy of the Western Church
Jerome (ODCC) - biblical scholar; devoted to a life of asceticism and study; his greatest achievement was his translation of the Bible into Latin (the Vulgate); also wrote many biblical commentaries
Nemesius (ODCC) - Christian philosopher; Bishop of Emesa in Syria
Augustine (131CESK) - Bishop of Hippo (in northern Africa); a "Doctor of the Church"; most famous work is his Confessions; his influence on the course of subsequent theology has been immense
Chrysostom (131CESK) - Bishop of Constantinople; a "Doctor of the Church"; a gifted orator; his sermons on Gen, Ps, Isa, Matt, John, Acts, and the Pauline Epistles (including Hebrews) established him as the greatest of Christian expositors
Prosper of Aquitaine (ODCC) - theologian; supporter of Augustinian doctrines; closely associated with Pope Leo I ("the Great")
Damasus (ODCC) - pope; active in suppressing heresy
Apollinaris of Laodicea (ODCC) - Bishop of Laodicea; close friend of Athanasias; vigorous advocate of orthodoxy against the Arians
Amphilochius of Iconium (ODCC) - Bishop of Iconium; close friend of the Cappadocian Fathers; defended the full Divinity of the Holy Spirit
Cent. V.
Asterius of Amasea (ODCC) - Arian theologian; some extant homilies on the Psalms attributed to him
Evagrius Ponticus (ODCC) - spiritual writer; noted preacher at Constantinople; spent the last third of his life living a monastic life in the desert
Isidore of Pelusium (ODCC) - an ascetic and exegete; his extant correspondence contains much of doctrinal, exegetical, and moral interest
Cyril of Alexandria (ODCC) - Patriarch of Alexandria; contested Nestorius; put into systematic form the classical Greek doctrines of the Trinity and of the Person of Christ
Maximus of Turin (ODCC) - Bishop of Turin; over 100 of his sermons survive
Cassion (? prob. Cassian) (ODCC) - one of the great leaders of Eastern Christian monasticism; founded two monasteries near Marseilles; best known books the Institutes and the Conferences
Chrysologus (ODCC) - Bishop of Ravenna; a "Doctor of the Church"
Basil "the Great" (ODCC) - one of the "Cappadocian Fathers"; Bishop of Caesarea; responsible for the Arian controversy's being put to rest at the Council of Constantinople
Theodotus of Ancyra (ODCC) - Bishop of Ancyra; wrote against the teaching of Nestorius
Leo the Great (ODCC) - Pope who significantly consolidated the influence of the Roman see; a "Doctor of the Church"; his legates defended Christological orthodoxy at the Council of Chalcedon
Gennadius (ODCC) - Patriarch of Constantinople; the author of many commentaries, notably on Genesis, Daniel, and the Pauline Epistles
Victor of Antioch (ODCC) - presbyter of Antioch; commentator and collector of earlier exegetical writings
Council of Ephesus (Wikipedia) - declared the teachings of Nestorious heretical, affirming instead the unity between Christ's human and divine natures
Antipater of Bostrum - ?
Nilus (ODCC) - Bishop of Ancyra; disciple of St John Chrysostom; founder of a monastery; conducted a large correspondence influencing his contemporaries; his writings deal mainly with ascetic and moral subjects
Cent. VI.
Dionysius Areopagita (ODCC) (aka Dionysius the Pseudo-Areopagite) - mystical theologian; combined Neoplatonism with Christianity; the aim of all his works is the union of the whole created order with God
Gregory the Great (131CESK) - Pope; a "Doctor of the Church"; very prolific writer of works on practical theology, pastoral life, expositions of Job, sermons on the Gospels, etc.
Isidore (ODCC) - Bishop of Seville; a "Doctor of the Church"; concerned with monastic discipline, clerical education, liturgical uniformity, conversion of the Jews; helped secure Western acceptance of Filioque clause
Eutychius (Patriarch of Constantinople) (Wikipedia) - consecrated the church of Hagia Sophia in Constantinople; defended the Chalcedonian faith against an unorthodox sect; became controversial later in life
Isaac (Bp. of Nineveh) (ODCC) (aka Isaac the Syrian) - monastic writer on ascetic subjects
Severus (Bp. of Antioch) (ODCC) - Syrian Orthodox Patriarch of Antioch; the leading theologian of the moderate Monophysites
John Climacus (ODCC) - ascetic and writer on the spiritual life; later Abbot of Mt. Sinai; best known for his Ladder of Divine Ascent which treats of the monastic virtues and vices
Fulgentius (ODCC) - Bishop of Ruspe in N. Africa; scholarly disposition; follower of St. Augustine; wrote many treatises against Arianism and Pelagianism
Cent. VII.
Maximus ( ? of Constantinople, 645.) (ODCC) - Greek theologian; prolific writer on doctrinal, ascetical, exegetical, and liturgical subjects
Cent. VIII.
Bede (131CESK) - "the Venerable Bede"; a "Doctor of the Church"; pedagogue, biblical exegete, hagiographer, and historian, the most influential scholar from Anglo-Saxon England
John Damascene (131CESK) - Greek theologian; a "Doctor of the Church"; defender of images in the Iconoclastic Controversy; expounded the doctrine of the perichoresis (circumincession) of the Persons of the Trinity
Alcuin (ODCC) - Abbot of St. Martin's (Tours); a major contributor to the Carolingian Renaissance; supervised the production of several complete editions of the Bible; responsible for full acceptance of the Vulgate in the West
Cent. IX.
Haymo (of Halberstadt) (Wikipedia) - German Benedictine monk who became bishop of Halberstadt; prolific writer
Photius (of Constantinople) (ODCC) - Patriarch of Constantinople; a scholar of wide interests and encyclopedic knowledge; his most important work, Bibliotheca, is a description of several hundred books (many now lost), with analyses and extracts; also wrote a Lexicon
Rabanus Maurus (ODCC) - Abbot of Fulda in Hess Nassau; later Archbishop of Mainz; wrote commentaries on nearly every Book of the Bible
Remigius (of Auxerre) (ODCC) - monk, scholar, and teacher
Paschasius Radbertus (ODCC) - Carolingian theologian; wrote commentaries on Lamentations and Matthew, as well as the first doctrinal monograph on the Eucharist, he maintained the real Presence of Christ
Cent. XI.
Theophylact (ODCC) - Byzantine exegete; his principal work, a series of commentaries on several OT books and on the whole of the NT except Revelation, is marked by lucidity of thought and expression and closely follows the scriptural text
Anselm (131CESK) - Archbishop of Canterbury; a "Doctor of the Church"; highly regarded teacher and spiritual director; famous ontological argument for the existence of God as "that than which nothing greater can be thought"
Petrus Alphonsus (Wikipedia) - Jewish Spanish writer and astronomer, a convert to Christianity; one of the most important figures in anti-Judaic polemics
Laufranc (? prob. Lanfranc) (ODCC) - Archbishop of Canterbury; commented on the Psalms and Pauline Epistles; his biblical commentary passed into the Glossa Ordinaria
Of uncertain date.
Symeon Metaphrastes (ODCC) - Byzantine hagiographer
Symeon Abbas - ?
Theophanes - ?
Geometer - ?
Alexander Monachus (Wikipedia) - Cypriot monk; composed homiletics and an encomium on the Apostle Barnabas
Glossa Ordinaria (ODCC) - the standard medieval commentary on the Bible. It was drawn up chiefly from extracts from the Fathers, and was arranged in the form of marginal and interlinear glosses
Glossa Interlinearis (Wikipedia) - by Anselm of Laon (d. 1117), who had some acquaintance with Hebrew and Greek; derived its name from the fact that it was written over the words in the text of the Vulgate
UPDATE: I count only 59 authors in that list, but the Glossa Ordinaria is made up of extracts from other authors, so I'm assuming that's where the balance of the 80 comes from.
Comments
OK! Now let's try to get the price down to $18. [;)]
Everyone under $18, bump up your bid to 18, and it will go down to 18,
It has gone down to $18, can we send it to $16?
Blessings,
Floyd
Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
Everyone under $18, bump up your bid to 18, and it will go down to 18,It has gone down to $18, can we send it to $16?
Woo hoo! That was fast. It's over 90% already for $16, so I bet we can do it. I bid $40 on it -- it would be awesome to get it for $16. This is probably going to go up to $120 or more once it ships (maybe $60 in pre-pub), so this would be a steal!
This is probably going to go up to $120 or more once it ships (maybe $60 in pre-pub), so this would be a steal!
Yes, I think this is what I call the feel-good factor of Community Pricing. While others might call it smugness, I disagree because I want everyone to enjoy the benefits of Community Pricing not just me. (Hey, isn't that a good analogy about spreading the gospel through witnessing and preaching? [I])
God grant that we are even more zealous for His Gospel and taking it to others than we are for Community Pricing!
Every blessing
Alan
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This is probably going to go up to $120 or more once it ships (maybe $60 in pre-pub), so this would be a steal!Yes, I think this is what I call the feel-good factor of Community Pricing. While others might call it smugness, I disagree because I want everyone to enjoy the benefits of Community Pricing not just me. (Hey, isn't that a good analogy about spreading the gospel through witnessing and preaching?
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I suspect that the Prepublication price will be close to $99 and the Logos price after publication will be even higher. Let's see if we can get it down to $16 for this collection. You can place your bid at: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/5216
Also, The Christian’s Daily Walk, by Henry Scudder is currently at 100% for only $7 in Community Pricing. You can place your bid at: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/6090
In addition, William Burt Pope’s 3-volume Compendium of Christian Theology is also at 100%. This work is currently at $10. You can place your bid at: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/5664
This means that the only work in Community Pricing that has not reached 100% is the 14-volume commentary on the entire Bible (KJV), verse-by-verse from Genesis through Revelation written by Albert Barnes and James Murphy. Unless Logos adds something else, this will be the only work left in Community Pricing after Friday 4/16/2010 at Noon Pacific Time. Put your bid on the Barnes set at: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/2132
Is this the end of Community Pricing?
Is this the end of Community Pricing?
I doubt it. On the Logos.com jobs page there is a listing for a position which has the responsibility of posting Pre-Pubs and Community Pricing titles. They probably just are focused on other things instead of procuring new CP titles.
Prov. 15:23
I suspect that the Prepublication price will be close to $99 and the Logos price after publication will be even higher. Let's see if we can get it down to $16 for this collection. You can place your bid at: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/5216
That was easy! The $16 price has been achieved. Now let's conqueror $14.[:D]
Add a link to the resource on your Facebook wall. There may be friends who have not seen these prices that may be interested in obtaining Catena_Aurea :
Blessings,
Floyd
Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
Add a link to the resource on your Facebook wall. There may be friends who have not seen these prices that may be interested in obtaining Catena_Aurea :
Great idea! I just did. Cool that you can set up a bit.ly link with whatever name you want (assuming it isn't taken yet). I thought it was always random.
We only need a few more people to bid on this collection to get the price down to $14.
You can bid at: http://www.logos.com/communitypricing/details/5216.
We only need a few more people to bid on this collection to get the price down to $14.
And it made it!!!
Thank you everyone!
Blessings,
Floyd
Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
I think Rosie should get the Cantena Aurea for free for prompting such an avalanche of orders with this thread/blog post!
Prov. 15:23
$14. And I bid $34.
Yet I'm getting it for $14.
THANK YOU for shouting about Community Pricing. What a great concept! It's a win-win for everyone.
Here's a book suggestion I made a long time ago, that really, really deserves to be in Logos, esp. since it's out of print and hard to obtain at a good price:
http://www.amazon.com/Comprehensive-Etymological-Dictionary-Language-Readers/dp/0029174317/
A Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the Hebrew Language for Readers of English by Ernest Klein
I bought a new copy at Half-Price Books many years ago (and should have grabbed the second copy - they were only $19.98 each).
About the author from the back cover of book:
Ernest David Klein (1899-1983) was born in Szatmar in the eastern part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire (now Romania). In 1925 he earned the title of Doctor of Philosophy at the University of Vienna. His specialized fields were Semitic languages and literature, Romance languages and literature, and Philosophy. In 1931 he became Rabbi of Nove Zamke in the former Czechoslovakia. Here he remained until deported by the Nazis in World War II, first to Auschwitz and later to the concentration camp Allach-Dachau. He was liberated by American Troops in 1945. His father, wife, only son and two of his three sisters had perished in the extermination camps. After the Holocaust he returned to his birthplace, but shortly afterwards he went to Paris, and finally moved to Canada in 1951. Here he was able to devote himself to the projects he had started earlier in Europe.
For the next 20 years Dr. Klein devoted himself to the study of the history of the English language. Since English has roots in some forty spoken and extinct languages, and Klein had mastered these languages, he was uniquely qualified to compile his comprehensive etymological dictionary of the English language, which was the most exhaustive of its kind at the time. The next ten years of his life he devoted to: A Comprehensive Etymological Dictionary of the Hebrew Language for Readers of English.
Rabbi Dr. Ernest Klein was considered an eminent language scholar and lexicographer.
Additional Info from preface: The book was written by Rabbi Dr. Ernest Klein. The 10 year writing and then publishing were sponsored collectively by Arthur and Beatrice Minden. Manuscript was edited and published at the University of Haifa. The editors were Professor Aharon Dolgopolsky, Dov Benhorin, and finally the prominent editor and translator Baruch Sarel (who added over 2500 additional entries to the work). Foreword by eminent philologist Professor Haim Rabin of the Hebrew University and the Hebrew Language Academy.
Dr. Ernest Klein has been granted the "Order of Canada" award for one of his previous works, and two honorary doctorates from Canadian Universities.
Optimistically Egalitarian (Galatians 3:28)
$14. And I bid $34.
Yet I'm getting it for $14.
[Y][:)][:D]
Blessings,
Floyd
Pastor-Patrick.blogspot.com
I think Rosie should get the Cantena Aurea for free for prompting such an avalanche of orders with this thread/blog post!
Thanks! I would humbly accept if it were offered to me. [:)]
$14 feels like practically free though, now that I see what the latecomers are going to have to pay for it through pre-pub (over 4 times as much!)