Single core, dual core, triple core etc

Looking at new laptops, I see one that uses the Ryzen 7 5800 chip. This is said regarding that particular chip, "No matter what Ryzen 5000 series CPU you are looking to buy, the fact that you are considering purchasing one in the first place implies that you are interested in PC gaming, single-core performance heavy workloads, or perhaps a mix between content creation or gaming."

I am not at all into gaming but I would want a laptop that is going to handle Logos with no problems as to speed.

My question is, does Logos use single core or dual core or anything above that.

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Dave Hooton

Logos apparently uses a single thread for UI work but will use multiple threads for searches, indexing and other work. Recommended Hardware is quad-core, so a Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7 with 6 or more cores will run Logos just fine.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180319#Comment_1180319

Dave, thanks for the reply. If you were buying a new laptop, would you still go for anything more than a Ryzen 7?

Presently, I'm using an I-7-4700 HQ CPU 2.40 GHz and it runs Logos no problem, although I'm thinking a new machine would be that much quicker.

What's your thoughts?

David Wanat

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180330#Comment_1180330

When I replaced my Mac, I looked for a PC that could meet the recommended Logos requirements, which meant a gaming machine (My stats are in my sig file if you're curious). It runs Logos flawlessly, taking seconds to go from start to ready. I can game with it, but I find I don't really do that much of it nowadays.

I have no idea where my 9th generation CPU (I think we're on 11th gen now?) stacks up compared to your Ryzen though. But I guess it could be a start for determining things?

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180331#Comment_1180331

I'm thinking if what I have here (an 8 year old ASUS Rog) is having no problem running Logos, the new machines would lift the roof right off the house.

Whether it is an Intel Chip or the AMD chips, it would leave this one I have presently in the dust. The fact this is getting up there in age and has no TPM chip for Windows 11, the time is approaching when I will get a new one.

EastTN

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180332#Comment_1180332

I recently bought a gaming desktop with a Ryzen 7 5800x and an SSD (my old machine finally died), and I'm very pleased with its performance running Logos.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180353#Comment_1180353

That's nice to know. Thanks for your jumping in on this.

Rifhen

I'm on a desktop, but I have a Ryzen 7 3700X and it has no problem with Logos at all - as snappy as you could imagine, never freezes etc. I do have 32 gigs of ram and a NVME SSD though so those may play a part as well. I'm guessing any laptop with a 5800 will have a fast SSD and plenty of ram too.

Rifhen

Some advice you probably don't need, but my understanding is that graphics cards are extremely overpriced right now. For example, there's a 3080 on newegg going for $2100 and PS5s on amazon for over $1000. If you aren't interested in gaming you might really be paying for performance right now that you don't really need if that laptop is being marketed to gamers.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180382#Comment_1180382

Thank you Rifhen for your helpful replies and yes, I'll take all the advice you want to throw at me.

I'm looking at an ASUS Rog of which I'll give you the link. I'm not desperate to buy right now but I am getting the fever. Let me know what you think of this.

ASUS ROG Strix G17 17.3" Gaming Laptop - Eclipse Grey (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H/1TB SSD/16GB RAM/RTX 3060) | Best Buy Canada

Rifhen

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180383#Comment_1180383

I'd be surprised if that doesn't run Logos really well. But you could probably save some money if you don't want to game on it. The link below if $600 cheaper and I would think it would run Logos fine. I didn't spend that much time looking - you could probably find better deals. Note the hard drive is half as large which might be an issue if you are putting a lot of media on it. Don't get me wrong, the one you linked to is a much better machine - the processor is better, the GPU is better, and the hard drive is bigger. But $600 is nice too.

I tried to look up benchmarks, and it looks like even that the graphics card is about 30-40% slower than what I have on my desktop which I use for gaming. I opened up verbum with the diagnostics screen on and tried to get the GPU utilization up and couldn't get my GPU utilization over 30%. So to me even for a laptop an RTX 3060 seems like more than you need if you aren't gaming on it.

I had to buy a laptop recently for one of my children, and a couple of other things I noticed:

1) They don't put DVD drives on most of them anymore. Can be a rude shock if you're not expecting that, although my kids barely know what a DVD is.

2) Do you really want a 17 inch screen? That seems big to me, but everyone has different preferences and I could see wanting something that big if you are using as your main PC. I don't really like laptops and if I have to use one want it to be light and cool.

Hopefully others who have bought laptops recently can weigh in and give you comparisons. The laptops I've bought recently didn't have a graphics card which is a recommended spec.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180398#Comment_1180398

Thank you so much for the suggestions! As to the size of the screen, I definitely would go no less than a 17.3 inch screen. I only use a laptop (actually I have another Toshiba for a backup should this one snap). As far as the Graphic cards go, I guess one has to take what comes in these things, unlike the Desktop where one can switch out and plunk a new one in.

I checked your link and I believe that is in the US whereas I am in Canada.

I just wanted to see if others such as yourself, have found Logos stacks up well with the Ryzen chip. Thanks again Rifhen.

Allen Browne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180400#Comment_1180400

I just wanted to see if others such as yourself, have found Logos stacks up well with the Ryzen chip

Bootjack, I can't comment on the Ryzen, but I don't expect the CPU would be the big difference. It's moving to SSD that really makes Logos fly.

Since your previous Asus ROG is 8 years old, I'm guessing it used a spinning disk. The 1TB SSD in the new one you're looking at will make the stand-out difference.

I'm using a 17.3" and agree with you on the screen real-estate. I use the laptop screen for Logos, with whatever I'm working on open in Word on the external monitor (24" rotated to portrait). Laptop has 2 SSDs: 256GB system + 1TB for data. I thought 1TB would be plenty, but it's almost full with Logos (126GB), MS Flight Sim (160GB), and the rest of my data.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180406#Comment_1180406

Interesting comment Allen. I've actually used an SSD in this unit between 5 & 6 years now and there's no problem using Logos whatsoever. I've a 500 Gig drive with about 300 Gigs free, so a 1tb at this rate would never be used, at least most of it.

Paul Watson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1180398#Comment_1180398

I have a legion 5 as well... with 2 extra screens on it... runs logos very well. Also have lenovo flex 5 which also has logos... I can tell the difference when its indexing. The legion is way faster. And the legion has a lot more ram in it, which also makes a difference... but the flex 5 is very usable. I've run logos on hp's, dell's and at least 3 different lenovo's . I cant put my thumb on why... but the Lenovos always do a better job

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183879#Comment_1183879

Thank you for that interesting reply. It seems you favour the Lenovos so apparently, you must be getting good service from them.

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183917#Comment_1183917

I am running Logos on a 9-year-old top-end Asus ROG 17". This baby has been around the world with me from jungles of Indonesia to deserts of...shall we say other places. It once fell from a ledge and sustained nothing more than ugly gashes in the cover. It has been upgraded to a good SSD (easy to do). It is fast. But old. I will be replacing it soon, but an SSD is your #1 friend with Logos.

If you wonder why I travel with a seventeen inch 9-pound (??) behemoth laptop--that is question for another day--in short because it was better than traveling with a tower.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183921#Comment_1183921

That rig sounds like it's bullet proof. I have an 11 year old Toshiba with an SSD and runs Logos no problem but I very seldom use it. It's there for backup. My main laptop is this ASUS Rog 17.3" but neither of them have been anywhere but on my two desks. The ASUS is 8 years old this November and also has an SSD but I'm getting this fever for a new one. Neither of these laptops will run Windows 11 of course, so I'm looking for any excuse to purchase something new.

I should ask, when you do buy new, will you go with another ASUS Rog?

GaoLu

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183922#Comment_1183922

I should ask, when you do buy new, will you go with another ASUS Rog?

I certainly will. Unless something better comes along.

I also use a couple HP Spectre 360's. They are tiny, light, powerful, and versatile. Someday, I may once again get a desktop computer, but not till I settle down to one place.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183932#Comment_1183932

I'm stationary but still like the larger laptops. Anyway, thanks again for your input.

John Goodman

Ryzen 7 5800 chip

It has great single core performance but is not a single core chip. Logos will make use of the other cores. That is probably more powerful than you need for Logos.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183975#Comment_1183975

Thank you John for that bit of info. If you were buying new, would you go with the Ryzen chip or an Intel?

BillS

does Logos use single core or dual core or anything above that.

My laptop is a 3yo MSI GF63 8RD with I-7 8850H (6-core), 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD, 2TB HDD, & NVIDIA GTX 1050Max. Although at 2.2GHz clock speed my user experience doesn't feel incredibly zippy it's always responsive (except when waiting on the web). I've found that having 6 cores means I just can't slow the laptop down. I can keep working while indexing the entire library (8,000+), which I timed at just over an hour (61 minutes & 12 seconds). I never notice while it's working away in the background.

Blessings! IMO, any good (not even great) multi-core, 500GB or larger SSD, 16GB or larger RAM, & a video card with 2GB or greater will give you great performance in Logos (& almost anything else).

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183997#Comment_1183997

Bill, it appears you've got a heavy hitter machine on your desk. I would suspect that is Windows 11 upgradeable, correct? Anyway, I'm going to get a nice damp cloth and wipe the green off my face! :-)

BillS

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1183998#Comment_1183998

Bill, it appears you've got a heavy hitter machine on your desk. I would suspect that is Windows 11 upgradeable, correct? A

Hi Bootjack,

I buy at the knee of the price-performance curve (where the next bump up in how powerful the PC is costs a LOT more than the last bump). Each time I've done that, the pc or laptop has lasted a good 5+yr... It was a heavy hitter 3 yr ago (this month), but I don't think it'd be terribly expensive to buy a more powerful machine, today.

I don't think performance is REALLY zippy, but it doesn't bug me with slow performance. More than that I don't ask...

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1184181#Comment_1184181

An interesting reply. Very good sir!

Kathleen Marie

I am losing my eyesight. A few years back, before I started college, an agency bought me a laptop for school. I needed a big screen and I needed power to run the software that I was supposed to learn to use. A gaming laptop was purchased for me, without any input from me.

A gaming laptop was a HUGE mistake!!!

Hundreds of dollars was wasted on a graphics card that overheated and slowed the machine down and drained the battery.

The machine roasted itself while idling, and could not run any of the software that I was supposed to learn to use. More happened that I won't bother to discuss. The machine is long gone, but it taught me that I can never just assume that a gaming laptop will be able to run the most basic productivity software. I know, now, to do a lot of research in graphics cards if I am going to buy a gaming laptop.

The toy that I am using right now runs Logos so much better than "The Beast" could even idle.

MJ. Smith

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1184360#Comment_1184360

A gaming laptop was a HUGE mistake!!!

Interesting. I've been quite satisfied with my gaming laptops and had no trouble with overheating. I suspect that a graphics card was put into a machine not designed to support it.

Bootjack

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1184360#Comment_1184360

Apparently the laptop you got Kathleen was a dud, which could happen to any laptop or desktop.

I've been using the asus rog 8 years straight, very seldom is it shut down and I've yet to experience heating problems or any problems whatsoever. If this machine were to fail today, it doesn't owe me anything plus I would go back to the same type of unit when buying new.

It's too bad you had that unhappy experience.