Convert LOGOS book to epub or mobi

Sure seems like that is going the wrong direction.  What are you hoping to achieve?

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

That's what the Faithlife Ebooks app should become. We have some plans to get it there and would love your feedback as we do.

That would be great. To have just a lean app for reading only would be a nice addition, besides the current mobile app. The sooner the better.

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

What would it take to change that?

Actually, on reflection, having the most recent page read synced across devices and a popup to choose to jump there like on a kindle.

I frequently switch between my computer, ipad, boox and phone and it only occasionally follows me.

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

What would it take to change that?

For me, a lot. When I open the Faithlife app, I am greeted with an app that looks and acts much like Logos in how it functions. Great for studying the Bible, not so much for casual reading. Way too complex. The books should be front and center, not dashboards and Explore. When I open a good reading app like the kindle app, my books are the first thing I see (both downloaded and suggestions). In the Faithlife app it is layouts. I would like a simple bookshelf view with currently reading books on top (not a complex reading plan with schedules I have no interest in), then a list of books I've added to a to-read list in a second section, and all other  books below that with lots of easy sort options right there on the main page. The current sort options are good, but put the books front and center. I also want to be able to add and manage books to the read later function from Logos, as that's where I buy them and usually see them first.

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

That's what the Faithlife Ebooks app should become. We have some plans to get it there and would love your feedback as we do.

I had forgotten this app even existed and just re-launched it. Doesn't seem too different from primary Logos iOS app. The version history even references fixing a bug to sermon builder. An e-reader app shouldn't have a sermon builder. That's what the primary Logos app is for. Menu options also list passage lists, clippings, prayers, etc. Focus on reading, not features.

Keep it simple:

1. Highlights and syncing currently seem way too "fiddly".
2. In Kindle, I can get a notebook filled with highlights/notes from only that book in 2 clicks. That's all I want 99% of the time.
3. In Kindle, reading location is almost instantly synced with iPad, iPhone, & desktop. Additionally, it reports my last reading location to me and asks if I want to jump to that location.
4. Too many steps to change view settings. (Click the screen... click the vertical dots... click "view settings" at the bottom of the list.) Kindle is simply click the screen and click the view options along the top.
5. Layouts are unnecessary for a barebones reading app.
6. Factbook is unnecessary for a barebones reading app.

I know I compare Faithlife ebooks to Kindle quite a bit, but there are good reasons why Amazon dominates the e-reader market.

As a bonus, I would love to see Logos highlights exported to readwise for reviewing.

Paul said:

Factbook is unnecessary for a barebones reading app.

In general the factbook is not needed in the reading app, however, in the same way as Kindle allows me to press and hold a word to get a definition, so the same functionality would be nice to let me open any relevant entry in factbook in the reading app. The key is it would be out of the way until I perform a specific action to bring it up.

I am visually impaired. I need the following:

I need to read books on a large screen e-ink device. I need to be able to underline and write on the ebook with the pen supplied with the device. I don't want those notes added anywhere outside of that book.

I need good text-to-speech support. Preferably, I want Alexa to be able to read me the book.

I lose a little more sight every year. Technology is usually staying ahead of what I need to be able to study what I want when I want. But I spend a huge amount of time and money learning and researching new software and devices. Sometimes, I just cannot read/learn what I want to learn, even with all the time and money spent. Price matters, but as broke as I am, less time wasted learning software is critically important. Simple is often better than complex. I am willing to pay for the simple when it WORKS and comes with video tutorials.

Different kinds of books are consumed in different ways on different devices and in different environments. A commentary, a non-fiction book, and a novel are very different reading/listening experiences.

Tony Walker said:

What everyone is saying is make one of these

I agree it looks nice and if done right would be a nice reading device, but personally I’d rather FL stay focussed on software than risk a single function hardware device.

For me I would not buy one as I rather have a  single multi function device than have multiple single function devices.

Each to their own needs when it comes to device.

To clarify, I mean factbook is not needed as a separate full function for searching and finding entries. As I posted previously, having it integrated so that I can push and hold a word in a book and it be listed as a selection choice if there is a relevant entry would be very useful. I just don't think there should be a full factbook interface section for looking up random entries in an app primarily designed for reading. That's what the Logos app is for. Keep the reading app simple and focused on reading.

That’s great if the actual word had an entry or is exactly but sometimes I want a little bit more information on something related to what I just read and you are saying I should not have a way of looking that up in a reader app. I don’t see the problem with being able to open a search interface when I want one, it’s not in the way, and if you don’t ever want to use it that’s fine. I don’t get why people are down on Factbook, it’s not like we are using a Logos Reader app to read Mills and Boon. I would be reading books that at times lead me to ask questions about topics that are not specifically worded in what I’m reading and your suggested method would leave me stranded and forced to open another app to answer that questio. I wouldn’t bother with the reader app if what you are suggesting is the only way Factbook could be accessed.

danwdoo said:

To clarify, I mean factbook is not needed as a separate full function for searching and finding entries. As I posted previously, having it integrated so that I can push and hold a word in a book and it be listed as a selection choice if there is a relevant entry would be very useful. I just don't think there should be a full factbook interface section for looking up random entries in an app primarily designed for reading. That's what the Logos app is for. Keep the reading app simple and focused on reading.

Honing my inner Johnny Ive...

The new Logos Reading app was built from the ground up. We set out to create something as simple as possible the replicated the reading experience as much as possible. What do you do when you read? You most likely have a book and a pen. With the book, you immerse yourself into your content. With your pen, you make highlights. When you reflect, you insert your bookmark, close your book, and ponder your experience. 

So today, we are announcing the Logos E-reader. It has your books, a highlighter, and bookmarks--just like the authentic reading experience. If you want to look up words or entries, we have dictionaries and concordances that are purposely built to accomplish those task. But when you want to truly replicate the reading experience, we have intentionally focused on creating the Logos E-reader as simply as possible.

End Johnny Ive voice... look at the original iPod. it did one thing very very well. As it added new features, it turned into different types of iPods, until it turned into the phone and cannabalized itself. As the post above says, feature creep would kill an app (or in my dream a device) like this. I think this is a time when you ignore 90% of what people ask for, ask how can we replicate reading a book (answer: book, highlighter or pen, bookmark, nothing else... once you add anything else you are in essence rising from your seat, walking to your shelf, and partaking in an entirely different experience with different tools). 

Tony Walker said:

Honing my inner Johnny Ive...

Though hopefully without his great love for skeuomorphism, which is right out! [;)] No spirals and notebook lines please!!!!