Judah as a New Testament Person
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Olli-Pekka Ylisuutari said:
Thanks!
Meier, Brown, Hahn. and patristic stuff from the Verbum legacy libraries along with some Messianic, Baptist, Pentacostal, and SDA stuff from the Logos legacy libraries should be fun!
So ... Hahn has a 2009 book in Logos called Kinship by Covenant with the same name as his 1995 dissertation. The dissertation seems to have influenced a lot of books written after it. Hahn says he rewrote not revised his work twice. I see the later book on Logos, but can we still get the dissertation in Logos? I see that Hahn did an EWTN video series (for sale updated and free originals on youtube) with Jeff Cavins, but that they both went on to separate and update their work on separate projects. I asked my library to get the dissertation. They usually cannot get articles, this was extensively published in a large hardcover book. I'm more curious about the older stuff and how it is influencing all that is being published now. I'm going to use the "cited by" tool in Goggle scholar as much as possible.
Somewhere in here is something really good. I feel it. As I read and watch bits, I get a whiff of something.
Sometimes when I write a paper, I have 3 footnotes in a single sentence. This was messy in MLA at the community college and I asked my professors what to do. They never told me about Chicago style. Maybe the best part of this pandemic was being introduced to Chicago Style! Transitioning to Chicago has been HARD, but I love love love footnotes or endnotes compared to in-text citations! I want to keep reading widely and tunnel down to the resources that started the conversations. Many works will only get used for a phrase or not directly at all, but having read the works will indirectly change what I say as a thesis.
I smell something good, even if I don't know what it is.
January feels distorted to me. I have learned so much in a short amount of my time that my brain cannot comprehend that such a short period of time has passed. I keep thinking it must be February by now. Thank you all!!!
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MJ. Smith said:
There is a group of Christians that adamantly accept one English translation and only that translation. ... I got caught up in controversy for using a term of endearment ... Don't assume that others are smarter than you, ... Never assume that your knowledge will match DMB's on the application of text processing/AI on 2nd temple writings ... and take into account she is a preacher's daughter from a very logic driven denomination.
DMB said:Sorry, Kathleen. As MJ hints at, it's the highly regarded (by many; not me) King James Version. To be honest, when I read in my novel (the begats; the lady was putting her benefactor to sleep purposely), I didn't immediately recognize it ... I had to google the KJV! That shows how time erases old memories in favor of the new.
SineNomine said:Don't worry. After a few years, that happens less often with DMB.
Kiyah said:Decoding DMB's posts is always a fun challenge. lol
Thank everyone! Okay, on a Baptist board, I might have guessed that, but here is so much wider, and I had no idea of DMB's background. My upbringing was eclectic as is the background of most children born overseas to parents that are addicts. LOL. I have attended KJV only churches. And lots and lots of others. One of my parents got saved in a cult, and stayed sober for a long time. I am accepting and tolerant and GRATEFUL to the groups that have spiritually abused and misled me. A sober parent was worth it.
I do want to reread some Scofield and some Dake and I think it is fun to paste that all together with Hahn and Augustine and Jewish scholars. I love this project!
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As for the very logic-driven denomination think: "LOCKE, JOHN (1632-1704), whom Alexander Campbell called “the Christian philosopher,” influenced the Stone-Campbell Movement both directly through his writings and indirectly through Scottish Common Sense Realism. The British empiricist philosopher defined the Enlightenment for American theology in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. Three of Locke’s books were particularly significant for Campbell’s philosophical and theological development. His Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1689) shaped Campbell’s epistemology, his A Letter Concerning Toleration (1690) partly formed Campbell’s understanding of unity and the virtue of tolerance, and his Reasonableness of Christianity (1695) forged his theological method where he eschewed speculative theories and concentrated on the “facts” of the gospel system. Apologetically, Campbell was a practitioner of the “Christian Evidence” movement, which was rooted in Locke and implemented by Paley. Theologically, Campbell intended to root his thought in the simple confession that Jesus is the Christ and the minimal “facts” of the Christian story. The confession of these facts and a moral lifestyle provided the foundation of unity for both Locke and Campbell."
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
As for the very logic-driven denomination think: "LOCKE, JOHN (1632-1704), whom Alexander Campbell called “the Christian philosopher,” influenced the Stone-Campbell Movement both directly through his writings and indirectly through Scottish Common Sense Realism. The British empiricist philosopher defined the Enlightenment for American theology in the eighteenth and early nineteenth centuries. Three of Locke’s books were particularly significant for Campbell’s philosophical and theological development. His Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1689) shaped Campbell’s epistemology, his A Letter Concerning Toleration (1690) partly formed Campbell’s understanding of unity and the virtue of tolerance, and his Reasonableness of Christianity (1695) forged his theological method where he eschewed speculative theories and concentrated on the “facts” of the gospel system. Apologetically, Campbell was a practitioner of the “Christian Evidence” movement, which was rooted in Locke and implemented by Paley. Theologically, Campbell intended to root his thought in the simple confession that Jesus is the Christ and the minimal “facts” of the Christian story. The confession of these facts and a moral lifestyle provided the foundation of unity for both Locke and Campbell."
The divisions among these groups confuse me and I am not sure what are the boundaries of this group, and who is and is not a member. And I think some would insist that grouping itself is impossible. Some of these people are on my grateful list, but are not the only ones on my grateful list. I see the churches that I have attended as my family, my messy messy family, with lots of branches, each a unique brand of messy.
I am the descendant of books and churches more than any country or race or surname. For awhile, I thought I had no identity and fretted over that. Now, I claim the churches and books as my family, and the most controversial and "bad" ones are some of the ones that I claim as mine the loudest. Truth is stranger than fiction, and who reaches out to save a child in danger are sometimes the ones that no one would expect to do such a thing. And only people that have lived in the most severe isolation and deprivation can ever understand the impact of a single book on a person.
I don't know where I am going, but I am beginning to understand who I am. I cherish my peeps, all my peeps, even the ones that have wronged me. The Bible has a lot to say about those that have wronged us. I am at peace.
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