Search for compound Greek verbs that begin with with συν·

Harry Hahne · 2022-03-30T23:33:27+00:00

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I am trying to figure out how to find all instances of compound verbs that are built on any root verb with the preposition συν- as a prefix.

These verbs are very important for the Apostle Paul's theology of the results of our union with Christ. Some examples include:

Believers have been crucified with (συσταυρόω) Christ (Romans 6:6)
Believers have been made alive with (συζωοποιέω) Christ (Ephesians 2:5)
Believers have been raised up with (συνεγείρω) Christ (Ephesians 2:6)
Believers have been seated with (συγκαθίζω) Christ in the heavenly places (Ephesians 2:6)
and many more...

I don't think I can do a root search, since these verbs do not include the συν- root in the context menu.

Here is what I have done using a morphological search on the NA28 Greek New Testament:

@V INTERSECTS συ*

This works quite well, although it finds some noise, since some verbs begin with συ- but they are not compound verbs. I cannot search for συν*, because this type of verb can have συν- or συγ- or simply συ-, depending on how the συν preposition contracts with the first letter of the root verb.

Can anyone think of a more efficient or more precise way to do this type of search?

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Dave Hooton

Can anyone think of a more efficient or more precise way to do this type of search?

I think @V INTERSECTS συ* is as good as one can get. The 120 results in Pauline Epistles all appear to be compound

Harry Hahne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1201972#Comment_1201972

The only thing wrong with this search is that it won't find any aorist or imperfect tense verbs, because these tenses have an epsilon augment as a prefix on the verb.

Is there any way I can use wildcards in a lemma search? I want to find all lemmas that begin with συ-, rather than the inflected form as it appears in the Greek New Testament It does not seem possible to search for lemma:συν* or συν*@V.

Dave Hooton

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202418#Comment_1202418

The only thing wrong with this search is that it won't find any aorist or imperfect tense verbs

@V INTERSECTS συ* does! 202 aorist and 30 imperfect

lemma:συν*@V finds 117 aorist and 14 imperfect that overlap with the first search.

These queries will only work in Morph Search.

Brian Davidson

This MO works pretty well too: lemma:συν* OR lemma:συγ* OR lemma:συζ*

Ha! I see Dave's post now, and he's already said this (better)

Harry Hahne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202444#Comment_1202444

@V INTERSECTS συ* does! 202 aorist and 30 imperfect

lemma:συν*@V finds 117 aorist and 14 imperfect that overlap with the first search.

I see that now. I was working on this at 3:00 AM last night, so I wasn't seeing clearly.

Thanks, Dave.

Harry Hahne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202464#Comment_1202464

Spoke too soon. What am I doing wrong here?

I am doing a Morph search on NA28 Greek New Testament. When I search for lemma:απ*@V, I get no results. Interestingly the pick list offers around 30 verbs that meet the criterion, but the search produces no results. I took the successful search for lemma:συ* and changed it to lemma:απ* and nothing was found.

A wildcard search for απ* works fine. But if I change the search to lemma:απ* or lemma:απ*@V, the search fails.

I am sure the problem is a user error, rather than a bug, but I cannot see what is going on. Please help my aging eyes to see my mistake!

Brian Davidson

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202475#Comment_1202475

I think you just need a smooth breathing mark on that alpha.

Harry Hahne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202475#Comment_1202475

I am doing a Morph search on NA28 Greek New Testament. When I search for lemma:απ*@V, I get no results. Interestingly the pick list offers around 30 verbs that meet the criterion, but the search produces no results. I took the successful search for lemma:συ* and changed it to lemma:απ* and nothing was found.

I figured it out. A wildcard search for words that begin with a vowel must have a breathing mark. So the search lemma:ἀπ*@V works, but απ*@V does not work. Wildcard searches on roots do not need a breathing mark, but wildcard searches on lemmas require the breathing mark.

Harry Hahne

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1202477#Comment_1202477

I think you just need a smooth breathing mark on that alpha.

Yeah. I was typing this while you were. Thanks!

David McClister

If I may please, I'd like to add a question to this thread, since I think my question is related. How can I construct a search to find all the compounded forms of a Greek verb in the NT? Specifically, "oikeo" can be used by itself, but there is also "katoikeo" and "enoikeo" and "sunoikeo," etc. While I'd like to execute this particular search, I'd also like to know how to formulate such a search for any other verb as well. Thanks.

Rick Brannan

https://community.logos.com/discussion/comment/1363448#Comment_1363448

If I understand you correctly, I think a search for root.g:οικος@V will do what you ask. It uses the 'root' analysis, where root.g:οικος is a proxy for all words with lemmas that have an οικ- style root. Pop the morph on the end after the @.

Note this will give you other forms of οικ- verbs as well, e.g. οικοδομεω.

David McClister

That did it. Thanks!

Donovan R. Palmer

I love threads like this. They push me to think through exploring my own MORPH searches. Thanks for sharing! ❤️