A lot of *
I just bought my V10 package level and it included a lot of resources with an *. The * indicates:
* Your purchase includes this resource, which isn’t available yet. The resource will automatically download once it’s available.
Obviously I'm good with that but am curious about the timeframe when these resources will be available. I realize that all can't be done at the same time and it will be spread out...but are we looking at three months, six months....or anytime in the next two years before V11? 
Thanks in advance,
Kevin
P.S. - So far I like what I see in V10. Thanks to all for the hard work in making this great software.
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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Kevin S. Coy said:
but are we looking at three months, six months....or anytime in the next two years before V11?
Yes.
I raised this question less publicly and basically was told that some are very close to release, others are not.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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I asked about this, and was helped with this URL. Keep this URL and then you can keep an eye on it over time. This will show you the books you own that have not shipped.
https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=owned&filters=status-prepub_Status%2Blanguage-english_Language&sortBy=PriceHigh&geographicAvailability=all
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Don Awalt said:
I asked about this, and was helped with this URL. Keep this URL and then you can keep an eye on it over time. This will show you the books you own that have not shipped.
https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=owned&filters=status-prepub_Status%2Blanguage-english_Language&sortBy=PriceHigh&geographicAvailability=all
good tip. Thanks.
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I have some books that are community pricing rather than prepublication so I use Search Results | Logos Bible Software
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Don Awalt said:
I asked about this, and was helped with this URL. Keep this URL and then you can keep an eye on it over time. This will show you the books you own that have not shipped.
https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=owned&filters=status-prepub_Status%2Blanguage-english_Language&sortBy=PriceHigh&geographicAvailability=all
This URL won't be quite accurate at the moment. And you may have fewer *s than you think.
Here's why.
When a major new version ships, it usually includes a lot of pre-pubs. Although most of those included pre-pubs have been finished, we don't release them to users until a while after the new version ships. If we did, you'd end up with a large pre-pub bill just before L10 launched. And it's much cheaper for you to receive the pre-pubs within an L10 library.
So, by holding of "publishing" the pre-pubs for a few weeks, we give everyone the chance to get the best deal. But if you purchase L10, and the pre-pub is ready, you'll receive it straight away, even though it will still be marked with a *.
Leeser's 24 Books of the Holy Scriptures is marked with a star. It's still a pre-pub but if you bought a base package that includes it, you'll have access to it today.
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:Don Awalt said:
I asked about this, and was helped with this URL. Keep this URL and then you can keep an eye on it over time. This will show you the books you own that have not shipped.
https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=owned&filters=status-prepub_Status%2Blanguage-english_Language&sortBy=PriceHigh&geographicAvailability=all
This URL won't be quite accurate at the moment. And you may have fewer *s than you think.
Here's why.
When a major new version ships, it usually includes a lot of pre-pubs. Although most of those included pre-pubs have been finished, we don't release them to users until a while after the new version ships. If we did, you'd end up with a large pre-pub bill just before L10 launched. And it's much cheaper for you to receive the pre-pubs within an L10 library.
So, by holding of "publishing" the pre-pubs for a few weeks, we give everyone the chance to get the best deal. But if you purchase L10, and the pre-pub is ready, you'll receive it straight away, even though it will still be marked with a *.
Leeser's 24 Books of the Holy Scriptures is marked with a star. It's still a pre-pub but if you bought a base package that includes it, you'll have access to it today.
I guess the thing that confuses me is that many are not even showing as in production, but are still gathering interest. I assume that will change soon since we've already paid for them?
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
So, by holding of "publishing" the pre-pubs for a few weeks, we give everyone the chance to get the best deal. But if you purchase L10, and the pre-pub is ready, you'll receive it straight away, even though it will still be marked with a *.
That would explain why I received the St. Gregory of Narek books even though they're marked as being in pre-pub.
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Joseph Turner said:
I guess the thing that confuses me is that many are not even showing as in production, but are still gathering interest. I assume that will change soon since we've already paid for them?
I'm not sure exactly what the procedure is, but the status on pre-pubs is automated (i.e., it changes based on the number of orders received specifically for the pre-pub), and we haven't got around to manually overriding that to take account of base package orders.
But don't worry. Books marked as Gathering Interest are likely to be available already in your library, too. For example, on my personal account, the first book listed as Gathering Interest is the Thomistic Ressourcement Series (15 vols.), but those resources have already been produced, and I have access to them in my library.
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:Joseph Turner said:
I guess the thing that confuses me is that many are not even showing as in production, but are still gathering interest. I assume that will change soon since we've already paid for them?
I'm not sure exactly what the procedure is, but the status on pre-pubs is automated (i.e., it changes based on the number of orders received specifically for the pre-pub), and we haven't got around to manually overriding that to take account of base package orders.
But don't worry. Books marked as Gathering Interest are likely to be available already in your library, too. For example, on my personal account, the first book listed as Gathering Interest is the Thomistic Ressourcement Series (15 vols.), but those resources have already been produced, and I have access to them in my library.
Awesome, thanks!
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All very interesting...thank you all for your input.
Kevin
“Let us begin, brothers, to serve the Lord God, for up until now we have done little or nothing.” St. Francis of Assisi
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Mark Barnes (Faithlife) said:
But don't worry. Books marked as Gathering Interest are likely to be available already in your library, too. For example, on my personal account, the first book listed as Gathering Interest is the Thomistic Ressourcement Series (15 vols.), but those resources have already been produced, and I have access to them in my library.
As Mark said, many of the resources with asterisks are already available in your library.
There are a few books still in the production pipeline, but all of them are actively being produced. I look forward to seeing them delivered soon.
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For those still waiting on resources with an *, I just had over 30 resources show up today. Glad to see so many moving through development at this rate!
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Don Awalt said:
I asked about this, and was helped with this URL. Keep this URL and then you can keep an eye on it over time. This will show you the books you own that have not shipped.
https://www.logos.com/search?limit=60&page=1&ownership=owned&filters=status-prepub_Status%2Blanguage-english_Language&sortBy=PriceHigh&geographicAvailability=all
Thank you for this. Normally when I buy base packages, I hide owned resources then make a PDF with all the remaining contents. This upgrade I forgot to do so. It's good to be able to track these titles like this.
Does anyone know a similar way to track unreleased features like some of the reverse interlinears in the Full Feature Upgrade?
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I appreciate the hard work by Verbum and Faithlife...many of the * marked resources are now in my library. But I'm still trying to figure out the "method to the madness".
For example, What is Philosophy by Dietrich von Hildebrand. I go here - https://verbum.com/product/232298/what-is-philosophy and it indicates I own it and it is in production, yet it is in my library.
The Art of Living by Hildebrand, if I go here - https://verbum.com/product/231418/the-art-of-living indicates I own it, and it is in production (same as the Philosophy book), yet it is not in my library.
I guess I'm curious how these are being released, prioritized, etc.?
Also, I'll repeat Sean's question...
Sean said:Does anyone know a similar way to track unreleased features like some of the reverse interlinears in the Full Feature Upgrade?
Thanks,
KSC
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Kevin S. Coy said:
For example, What is Philosophy by Dietrich von Hildebrand. I go here - https://verbum.com/product/232298/what-is-philosophy and it indicates I own it and it is in production, yet it is in my library.
This means that it has been released to those who have purchased it as part of a base package but has not yet been released to those who have a pre-publication order on it. This is done to avoid a huge dump of prepublications swamping the finances of the pre-pub holders.
Kevin S. Coy said:The Art of Living by Hildebrand, if I go here - https://verbum.com/product/231418/the-art-of-living indicates I own it, and it is in production (same as the Philosophy book), yet it is not in my library.
This means that it is not ready for release to anyone.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Kevin S. Coy said:
For example, What is Philosophy by Dietrich von Hildebrand. I go here - https://verbum.com/product/232298/what-is-philosophy and it indicates I own it and it is in production, yet it is in my library.
This means that it has been released to those who have purchased it as part of a base package but has not yet been released to those who have a pre-publication order on it. This is done to avoid a huge dump of prepublications swamping the finances of the pre-pub holders.
Kevin S. Coy said:The Art of Living by Hildebrand, if I go here - https://verbum.com/product/231418/the-art-of-living indicates I own it, and it is in production (same as the Philosophy book), yet it is not in my library.
This means that it is not ready for release to anyone.
You can verify this from Mark Barnes' post above.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
This means that it has been released to those who have purchased it as part of a base package but has not yet been released to those who have a pre-publication order on it. This is done to avoid a huge dump of prepublications swamping the finances of the pre-pub holders.
I'm rather confused at this point. I'm using the link provided above to track when my BP volumes that are in pre-pub will be released. A few were released today. I received an update in Logos today that contained some datasets and updates to a few older books in my library. The new titles released today were not included--yet when I check my library, they are there. But, they are not listed under the categories of either "Added" or "Last Updated" within the last 30 days. So I'm really confused as to how and when they are added--if I weren't monitoring the link to pre-pubs I wouldn't know at all what was coming or when.
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some specific examples for us to check out?
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MJ. Smith said:
some specific examples for us to check out?
Sure. These two titles are set to come through today. First, I don't know why they are still showing on this page:
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The first title is clearly in my system, yet it isn't in the "Added: Last 30 Days" list in my library:
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Nor is it on the list of resources I downloaded today:
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It was stealth download I wouldn't have known about if I hadn't known to look for it.
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Both of these have been in my library since at least October 11th so I wouldn't expect them to appear in the 30 day list.
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MJ. Smith said:
Both of these have been in my library since at least October 11th so I wouldn't expect them to appear in the 30 day list.
Oh okay. Then are they still on the pre-pub list because of the reason you listed earlier?
EDIT: Yep. I looked up all the works listed as "In Production" and very nearly all of them* are already in my library. That's a strange way of handling it, but the mystery is solved.
*All of them except for J. Pelikan, which I eagerly check every day when I get up.
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MJ. Smith said:
This means that it has been released to those who have purchased it as part of a base package but has not yet been released to those who have a pre-publication order on it. This is done to avoid a huge dump of prepublications swamping the finances of the pre-pub holders.
MJ. Smith said:This means that it is not ready for release to anyone.
Thanks MJ but how do I know that by looking at the resources pages from the links that I provided?
KSC
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Kevin S. Coy said:
Thanks MJ but how do I know that by looking at the resources pages from the links that I provided?
You don't.
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