How would you improve Print Library?

When I click the link I get a google form I don't have permission to use.

Unlikely: I would like to be able to copy/paste from snippet view, but I get why that is not going to happen.

More likely: I would like to be able to copy the bibliographical reference to paste into a paper, or even to copy into a note. I realize I can copy from the library and add the pages manually, but it would be nice to make a quick-click and add ref to a note.

Agree 100%.  It seems that the Print Library feature is still isolated from the rest of the functionality.  Yes, you can search through your Print Library if you specify one or more books in your Print Library as the search domain. However, it should work seamlessly with other searches that you might do.  Roger mentions Passage Guide as one of them.

I just purchased the print library feature today. I am still trying to figure out how to use citations and bibliography for the print library. I will eventually figure it out, but students will be the ones most interested in creating citations from the print library. We tend to be overwhelmed with trying to learn three types of software at the same time we are writing papers.

I'd love some training that targets students even if it is mostly advertisement. Exhausted students are going to hit "buy" if you make it easy enough for us. If you can make it unnecessary to use a separate citation manager, we are going to be willing to invest more in Logos. If you can create an undergraduate paper writing template that makes it unnecessary to use Word, we will invest even more in Logos.

As with everyone else, inclusion of the print library into guides and workflows seems like a obvious improvement. I would also love to see print library resources able to be prioritized instead of just digital resources.

I have several books without barcodes. I called and got the same answer that is in the forum. Click add to library in the library tab. It adds it to the library but when you open it, it still says you don't have access to this book go to our site to buy. I have it but it is in hardback. The tech on the phone said you could type in the number on the App. but I have found no place to do that. Help would be appreciated. Thanks

Hi Blake, you can't read your print library books in Logos (or anybody could go to the bookstore and enter every ISBN). But they will show up in your searches and give you the page number of the contents you want.

Or would you like to use Print Library, but don't because it lacks a crucial feature?

It makes little sense to me to use this feature for one or two books.

It makes little sense to me to use this feature for one or two books.

I disagree. If you put the handful of books you own into the software, they will show up in your searches when you need them. That seems valuable to  me no matter how many of how few there are.

I understand that page numbers may make locating or referencing a halfway precise location in a printed book easier. On the other hand, from my understanding of the eBook production process (and that it is a very low-margin, not really well-managed part of FL's business), building page numbers into those books would be a massive and costly undertaking, taking away resources from actually producing books. And datatypes. And putting proper datatypes into books where they belong. Not to mention cross references. And a lot more things - if there were up to ten slots for tasks in the book production, I'd rank adding page numbers to eBooks not higher than eleven. 

On the contrary, Amazon seems to have done it with a catalog far bigger than FL's, and I don't imagine they would spend a lot of money if the only process were to do it by hand, as it were. I suspect that there is a way to do it, but it requires thinking outside of the box and breaking out of siloed processes. For example, I imagine that not every publisher sends FL their ebooks in the same format, and the data for pagination exists somewhere in at least some of these publisher's documents. It could be a matter of rewriting a single script (or maybe a couple scripts) and reprocessing those books to now have page numbers. Or it could be a matter of doing this with only the publishers who send their ebooks with the data that's easiest to script into FL ebooks page numbers. It's unimaginable that the only way to do this is by hand--we should be well beyond 2003's methods and tools. Taking resources away from other projects, as you say, ought to be very minimal in 2023.

Many Kindle ebooks only show a "Location" instead of page numbers. I've written many seminary papers citing the ebook location and it's been acceptable.

Richard you should look at the Logos 10 Full Feature upgrade which will provide all the features but no additional resources (except interlinears). It will certainly be cheaper.

Thanks for the pointer to the full feature upgrade, but as you said, that's still not cheap.  The rest of you must have budgets that I can only dream of.  I still see a whole lot of resources there that I don't want or need.  I'd be willing to pay $100 or so for an actual "full feature upgrade," but looking at the list describing that upgrade, it's much more than just a feature upgrade.  It seems to me I ought to be able to get something with the program, fully featured, but without all the commentaries, lectionaries, courses, lexicons, and interlinears that I don't want or need.