Midrash Rabbah

Beloved Amodeo
Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭
edited December 2024 in English Forum

It would be great if Logos would add English translations of the rabbinic Midrash Rabbah Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy to its available titles. This literature is important as it may have influenced the parables of Jesus.

Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    I absolutely agree !  I would love to have the Midrash Rabbah available in the Logos library - particularly that published by Soncino (See Soncino.com). While I have a multiple volume set in hard copy, having it within Logos and searchable would be tremendous. 

    The desire for Midrah Rabbah to be available also arose some years ago: https://community.logos.com/forums/p/114728/759141.aspx#759141

    Although my own interest for this resource is primarily in relation to Jewish writing and commentaries, it would be very useful in a variety of studies especially from an historical perspective.  

    Anyone who enjoys broad midrashic writing from a modern Jewish perspective might like the books by Avivah Gottlieb Zornberg who has written on Genesis ("The Beginning of Desire: Reflections on Genesis", Schocken Books, New York, 1995), Exodus ("The Particulars of Rapture: Reflections on Exodus", Random House, New York 2001) and Numbers ("Bewilderments: Reflections on the Book of Numbers", Schocken Books, New York, 2015). Her psychological and literary explorations in these works are also reflected in her book "The Murmuring Deep: Reflections on the Biblical Unconscious" (Schocken books, New York, 2009). If you like a challenge and enjoy reading this kind of literature, it may be for you!

    Keep well Paul 

      

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    ... This literature is important as it may have influenced the parables of Jesus.

    Just curious, Beloved. How so?  The sources I see are centuries later?

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    Beloved said:

    ... This literature is important as it may have influenced the parables of Jesus.

    Just curious, Beloved. How so?  The sources I see are centuries later?

    I admit the written rabbinic record comes some centuries after Jesus. The oral tradition precedes the written by centuries so they may have influenced the parables of Jesus. This is why in my original thread I request scholarly sources that consider this question. Did Jesus invent the genre of parables or were they extant before Jesus came on the scene?

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

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  • Veli Voipio
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    Beloved said:

    It would be great if Logos would add English translations of the rabbinic Midrash Rabbah Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy to its available titles.

    [Y]

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 14,050 ✭✭✭✭

    Beloved said:

    Denise said:

    Beloved said:

    ... This literature is important as it may have influenced the parables of Jesus.

    Just curious, Beloved. How so?  The sources I see are centuries later?

    I admit the written rabbinic record comes some centuries after Jesus. The oral tradition precedes the written by centuries so they may have influenced the parables of Jesus. This is why in my original thread I request scholarly sources that consider this question. Did Jesus invent the genre of parables or were they extant before Jesus came on the scene?

    Well, ok, I guess. Smiling.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Beloved Amodeo
    Beloved Amodeo Member Posts: 4,200 ✭✭✭

    Denise said:

    Well, ok, I guess. Smiling

    You're so gracious to me Denise[8-|]

    Meanwhile, Jesus kept on growing wiser and more mature, and in favor with God and his fellow man.

    International Standard Version. (2011). (Lk 2:52). Yorba Linda, CA: ISV Foundation.

    MacBook Pro MacOS Sequoia 15.3 1TB SSD

  • Aaron
    Aaron Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    I agree. The more one begins to dip into the arena of midrash you definitely begin to see tremendous overlap with the parables of our Master. He spoke to a Jewish crowd who knew the stories, legends and midrash. Even if He didn't quote entire sections from the midrash He alluded to the stories. When He said not a jot or tittle would be struck from the Torah, He was eliciting a well known midrashic legend of the yod ascending to heaven to complain that Solomon was remove the yod as an example. (Exodus Rabbah 6.1) 

    Logos! This resource is hugely important. Please consider adding that. 

    In the meantime I'm wondering if anyone has managed to adapt a docx file to import as a personal book? 

  • Aaron
    Aaron Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    I would be interested in an adapted docx file too if anyone has done the work

  • Aaron
    Aaron Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    If you're looking for scholarly works that consider the midrash, you can check out the Torah Club series on ffoz.store. It uses Midrash Rabbah a lot. Perhaps check Chronicles of the Messiah as your first stop.

  • Aaron
    Aaron Member Posts: 17 ✭✭

    I decided to go ahead and do this. Here's the files for anyone that is looking to download them. This should be an open view only link to Onedrive.

    Midrash Rabbah - Logos Files

  • Paul
    Paul Member Posts: 500 ✭✭

    Thank you so much Aaron for your work and generosity in making available these files. I for one will read with great interest! Keep well Paul