2nd Edition IVP Dictionary of Paul and His Letters is in production

NB.Mick said:

It has a publishing date of 2023 so it will be some months until it comes out in Logos, I expect.

Logos 11 base package, then!

Quick question:  What makes these particular dictionaries unique/stand out from, say, ABD?  

I have seen this series numerous times & invariably wonder what these volumes offer that’s not found in other reputable Bible dictionaries.  

I must say that they do “look good” though (if that makes any sense🥴).

DMB said:

Puddin’ said:

Quick question:  What makes these particular dictionaries unique/stand out from, say, ABD?

The IVP Dictionaries tend to be closer to a commentary, compared to an AYB or similar, which are more descriptive.  And so the IVP group spend more time on arguments, shades of interpretation, etc ... specific to the books covered.  An example below, on Paul and 'Principalities'.

The downside, is there's no 7-volume index.  A subject can be in vol 2, 3, and 6 ... maybe. You need to check.  I keep IVP in my dictionary layout linked, due to this problem.

Okay, I see what you mean.  

Next step is how to convince the lady of the house why it’s an absolute must that I add this series to a library of approx. 7,000 resources🤫.

All manipulative ploys shamelessly welcome🥴!

I originally bought the IVP dictionaries with the Britannica Great Books Set and and Leland Ryken's Reading the Bible as Literature Collection

https://www.logos.com/product/55052/great-books-of-the-western-world

https://www.logos.com/product/167662/reading-the-bible-as-literature-collection

The IVP dictionaries include articles that cover genre and literary terms that I needed.

I am too poor to attend a private Christian college so I have been combining  secular classes that are paid for with Pell grants with free unaccredited classes from Bible schools. My secular professors are increasingly allowing me to use Logos and other religious resources in my secular papers as I I learn how to do it "correctly" and use things that are expensive and usually behind paywalls. 

I have collected as many secular and secular-friendly resources as possible. The professors cannot tell me not to use Logos when they are praising me for quoting from books in the Britannica Great Books set.  I use the IVP Dictionary set a lot, but it was one of my first big purchases rather than purchased after something "better".

When I came back east this summer, after a couple years out west, I was eligible for some type of Covid grant to cover resources and equipment to make it easier to participate in remote schooling. The physical school library was still closed almost all the time, so I was able to justify spending some of the grant money on Logos software. I was awarded my grant the last week that the grants needed to be distributed and any money not spent that week went back to the government. They let me do anything I wanted that I could justify well enough to cover their backsides. I upgraded to a package with more genre and literary features and more dictionaries and encyclopedias. 

I am enrolled in two schools right now and have not had time to use most of what I have bought. I use the IVP because it is familiar, but some of the new stuff might be better. I don't know yet.

Roy said:

(I had to look up just exactly "detero-Paul" referred to).

I spelled deutero wrong, Roy.  * I had to put deutero in a 2nd time here.  I hunt-and=peck type so did not detect the evil word change auto-done.

Thank you for checking ed. 1 and your response.

Roy said:

Dictionary of Paul and His Letters: A Compendium of Contemporary Biblical Scholarship, 2nd ed. (IVP Bible Dictionary) 

The print volume has been out for a couple of months now. It was dutifully released in Logos format as well.

I'm suddenly finding that the Logos version is unavailable for purchase in Australia ("The publisher has not made this resource available for purchase in your country or region"). Whether or not I once had the chance to buy it ... no longer.

Such volumes are co-produced by the US and UK arms of IVP. Is this some kind of turf war? If so, will Logos be able to release the other (UK?) version so that the content is accessible to the other half of the globe?

Thanks for the response Daniel. I might flick an email over to IVP and see what they say on their end. Also Veli, I must confess that your picture intrigues me - It looks like a floating sauna?

Phil Tuften said:

I bought it on pre-pub, and I am in Sydney.  

Yes, I'd thought that (here in Melbourne) I'd previously seen it available as prepub, and perhaps even after release. So it seems a more recent freezing of availability, and not one imposed by the publisher/Logos from the very first.

Daniel Motley (Logos) said:

Unfortunately at this time there are certain regions where the rightsholder could not grant us rights to license the content to sell. We're hopeful that they will be able to extend the rights to the other missing territories at a future date but I do not have any additional information at this time.

Any update on the state of affairs? Can someone from FL confirm whether negotiations are still progressing?

Mitch Snyder (Faithlife) said:

We are still discussing with the publisher, but there are no updates to share at this time.

Thanks, Mitch. We Logos users on the far side of the world look forward to an update when IVP (esp IVP-UK) reaches a decision.