How many downloaded Logos resources can an iPad with an M chip processor handle?
Of course, this is assuming that one has sufficient storage space on the ipad. Will Logos search work on resources downloaded to the iPad, or is search on the ipad app all done on the cloud? What is a good maximum number of resources to download?
I am not sure about this.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
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- Many features require internet, so if you have access to those features you will have internet and can access the other books.
- You can search a SINGLE book offline, but LIBRARY searches happen online only.
- The app is prone to corruption. More downloaded books provides more avenues for corruption.
- Commonly used reference works
- Currently reading books
- Most used Bibles
- Many features require internet, so if you have access to those features you will have internet and can access the other books.
- You can search a SINGLE book offline, but LIBRARY searches happen online only.
- The app is prone to corruption. More downloaded books provides more avenues for corruption.
- Commonly used reference works
- Currently reading books
- Most used Bibles
Will Logos search work on resources downloaded to the iPad, or is search on the ipad app all done on the cloud?
Logos search on the mobile app takes into account both downloaded and cloud-resident resources.
And you can access / read resources whethere they are downloaded or in the cloud (assuming you are online)
Will Logos search work on resources downloaded to the iPad, or is search on the ipad app all done on the cloud?Logos search on the mobile app takes into account both downloaded and cloud-resident resources.
And you can access / read resources whethere they are downloaded or in the cloud (assuming you are online)
But obviously, one is not always online. Therefore, there is a big advantage to having a resource downloaded. I am wondering if the M processor in iPads is advanced enough to handle larger downloads, and how much larger, and how is searching affected.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
Will Logos search work on resources downloaded to the iPad, or is search on the ipad app all done on the cloud?Logos search on the mobile app takes into account both downloaded and cloud-resident resources.
And you can access / read resources whethere they are downloaded or in the cloud (assuming you are online)
I am at times in places without internes access.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
this is assuming that one has sufficient storage space on the ipad
I do not know specifics about the Logos iOS app, but in general, local resources are accessed more quickly (and more reliably) than anything on the cloud.
Logos has made it easy for you to selectively download the resources you use the most, and leave the rest on the cloud. I suspect that Logos builds a local index to all your resources, even those located in the cloud, so searching should still be decent performance (I do not know this for sure, but if I were writing the app, I sure would [H])
If you have plenty of memory, my preference would be to download the entire library. But this depends on two variables that you did not provide:
1) how many resources are in your library?
2) How much available memory do you have on your iPad?
On my macOS installation with ~1750 resources, the Resources folder is 23.29GB
I'm not sure how my library size compares to the typical Logos user, as I have added a lot to it lately.
I have an older iPad mini with 64GB and i just checked, it only has ~20GB free ... but I have a lot of things installed on it already.
The new iPads appear to come configured with an option of 64GB or 256GB.
If you had 256GB you would probably be ok, although I do not know your library size [:)]
If you have 64GB and a small library, you should also be ok.
If you have plenty of memory, my preference would be to download the entire library.
If one has a large library this may not be the wisest choice.
If one should need to reinstall the app then the whole download would need to be repeated.
Being a library; our collections of resources are most often there for very occasional use as cross references. With decent, first world, internet availability any time loss in referencing the cloud is likely to be minimal.
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Actually, I have 500 gig on my ipad. My Logos library is approximately 9,500 books. It should be enough room for what I want. I do not want all of them on my ipad, but I would love to have many more than a few hundred of them. I would like to have all of Wesley's Works, Spurgeon's sermons, the major commentary sets, most of the Church Fathers, and much more available to me when I have no internet.
I am at times in locations without internet available. In such cases searching or even reading cannot be done online. In that case, having the books downloaded would be a great advantage, wouldn't it?
Personal books would also be a great improvement in the mobile app. I get around this problem by turning them into epub, pdf, or Kindle books and read them on the iPad.
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Hello friend! It has been a while. [:)]
What is a good maximum number of resources to download?
My advice is the same no matter what iPad. I believe you should limit your downloads to no more than about 100 resources... because there is no good reason to do otherwise.
My recommendation is to download these things:
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Hello friend! It has been a while.
What is a good maximum number of resources to download?My advice is the same no matter what iPad. I believe you should limit your downloads to no more than about 100 resources... because there is no good reason to do otherwise.
My recommendation is to download these things:
There could good reasons to want more resources downloaded if you are going to be where there is no internet. Are you implying that the M processors have not made much difference in what the iPad can handle?
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
I have managed to download 14,685 resources on my iPad Pro, 2TB, M4 chip. It seems that this is limit that logos allow to download on my device. I have tried to download more, although it shows as downloaded, but when selecting "resources not downloaded" it still shows as not downloaded. It also started to crash after attempting to download more resources. This is definitely a logos software bug/limitation.
Mike you can always test and let us know. [:)]
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Lyden, I am considering doing just that. Of course, I may be the only one interested. I currently have over 1200 downloaded, and so far, so good. I have the first generation M chip in my iPad.
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From what you have posted, you should be fine as far as memory size goes. Processing power is not probably not a big factor here.
rather than spend a lot of time selectively downloading, I would just download it all. Then you will always have your entire library, internet or not.
Problems with the app and/or corruption I do not know about, but I would think is something Logos Should address if It is an issue.
Over time, you will.
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That would indicate a major flaw in the iPad or M chip design, wouldn't it?
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
I rather doubt that either iPad or the M chip could be considered suspect in this regard.
The Bible app on the other hand is always a work in progress and subject to regular updates and improvements. Old data and new systems often make uncomfortable bedfellows.
Advice on mitigating potential problems has been given. Do with it what you will.
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My friend ole JT is much more knowledgeable than I am. And he is probably right.
However, I really have nothing to lose by trying. I can always download the 200 or so resources again if it messes up.
So, I downloaded over 2,800 resources to my iPad today, and I will download more tomorrow. Since I have room to spare on my iPad drive, why not?
I also have big libraries of music, some movies, hundreds of magazines, Kindle and Nook app books on the iPad.
My main hope is that I will have access to read the 2,800 plus Logos books when I do not have internet available. I expect searching would be hindered without internet, but the availability of the resources would remain. That would be very worthwhile for me, especially since much more of my library would be with me for reading and study.
Perhaps this is a fool's errand. I suppose that I am the fool who will try it.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
No, you are a pioneer. If the app has known problems with a large library, you are now a beta tester [H]
You made me laugh. I am more of a fool than a beta tester. Although, I have been a beta tester before. This time I am a fool ignoring wiser folks than myself. But I cannot see what I have to loose.
Thanks to everyone for all the suggestions and sound advice. I have downloaded over 2800 resources. I will probably download some more of my 9,500 resources. I gave one bit of wrong information earlier. I checked and I have 1 TB of storage on my iPad, not 500 gig. So, my download hardly made a dent in my total space.
Today I only had about an hour to play with the mobile app. So far, so good. I cut the internet off and worked with the mobile app. Opening downloaded books worked like a charm. Searching worked surprisingly well, but I did only a little searching.
Of course, the question is: Will the downloaded books become corrupted, and if so how often? Time will tell. I do most of my reading on my iPad.
"In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley
I am up to more than 4,300 resources downloaded. For taking the books with you, and reading them, I have not yet experienced any problems. Linking resources, such as a Bible and commentaries works well without internet. I will download the rest of my resources.
But it certainly isn't comparable to your laptop or desktop with internet. I did not expect it to be. Nor is it comparable to the iPad app with the internet. For example, the passage guide is just one of the features that requires an internet connection to work.
The biggest advantage I see to downloading so many resources to an iPad is the ability to take your library with you on the iPad to places where there is no internet connection, and to do basic study and reading. That is what I am trying to accomplish. I am not expecting it to be fully functional Logos.
The real issue I am concerned about is will the resources become corrupted. So far, not that I can tell. But it may happen anytime.
I will not post any more about this unless I notice problems with the resources. Thanks for your comments and patience.
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One of the issues with the mobile app is that it does not do as good of job at keeping sources up to date... which can present mismatches in resources between desktop and mobile... and there isn't an "update all" command. There is no way for you to know which sources are "up to date" and which aren't.
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