ChatGPT INTEGRATION PLEASE🔥🔥🔥
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GaoLu said:
Perhaps a toggle switch in Settings would enable those who do not want AI in Logos to disable the feature.
Actually, I am more concerned about other people being led astray by its error rate than I am about using it myself. It can turn a garden hose of false information into a firehose of false information and politics shows me that many will believe parts of it.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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GPT definitely can give terrible answers and it is programmed with some creepy biases.
It’s just a tool like a search engine.
No doubt many are led astray by the garden hose of false information they find on Google and even books available from Logos.People will still have access to GPT search engines like bing, I don’t see how not allowing access to Logos resources would somehow keep them safe.
It’s foolish to look to Ai or google to be “led” in any case.
It would be neat to be able to have Ai query the curated collection of books in my Logos library before answering.
By God’s grace I finally have a set of custom instructions and prompts that elicit good answers.0 -
Joseph Fisher said:
It would be neat to be able to have Ai query the curated collection of books in my Logos library before answering.
Thank you -- I now understand what I was missing. The AI engines like BARD and ChatGPT do not query resources - they have been trained on resources and draw their answer from their stored knowledge. The beta web application applies AI to a search query which, as you can see, is quite different than the chatbots
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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To train (educate) a chatbot on your own curated data, you can use open-source large language models such as Bloom, T5, and GPT-NeoX. These models can help in building a powerful search and analytical engine for Logos Bible resources.
However, implementing these technologies can be complex and resource-intensive. Many companies may not have the necessary expertise, personnel, or funding to quickly adopt these emerging technologies. Companies like Google and Microsoft have the resources to do so, but others may need more time to position themselves.
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THE INNERWORKINGS OF a CHATGPT like CHATBOX.
At the highest abstraction level CHATGPT and similar consists of three components
A vector database (i.e., containing all your Logos resources)
A large language model (LLM), trained/educated on the data in your vector database.
A Prompt service, a question and answering service that retrieves information based on your question.
COMPLEX TECHNOLOGY 😊.
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Open Source Vector Databases
https://www.trychroma.com/
https://milvus.io/
https://vespa.ai/
https://vald.vdaas.org/
https://qdrant.tech/
https://zilliz.com/
https://weaviate.io/
https://www.pinecone.io/Large Language Models
https://www.lakera.ai/blog/open-source-llms
https://www.unite.ai/best-open-source-llms/
https://github.com/eugeneyan/open-llms
CHATBOX development with LLMs
https://www.techtarget.com/searchEnterpriseAI/definition/LangChain
https://dev.to/pavanbelagatti/a-beginners-guide-to-building-llm-powered-applications-with-langchain-2d6e
https://www.guru99.com/what-is-tensorflow.html
https://hybrowlabs.com/blog/llms-vs-langchain-comparing-two-of-the-most-powerful-language-processing-technologies0 -
In case you would like to expiriment with a private chatbot doing Bible studie on your own curated data.
1. Watch these youtube Video
https://youtu.be/l-Ji31HlC682. Install GPT4all
https://gpt4all.io/index.html
https://youtu.be/X8QbEENUZIo3. Turn your documents into pdf files
4. Links these to GPT4ALL (see video's)
5. Ready steady go...
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Interesting. I have tinkered with this on small-scale in some NLP programming I am involved with. But it's over my head, resource level, and free time scale. But the wave is coming.
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Resources
How to Use ChatGPT for Bible Study: Tips and Tricks
https://faithchatai.wordpress.com/2023/04/01/how-to-use-chatgpt-for-bible-study-tips-and-tricks/Enhancing Biblical Study with ChatGPT
http://bennycheung.github.io/enhancing-biblical-study-with-chatgpt10 ways your church can use chatgpt in ministry
https://missionalmarketing.com/10-ways-your-church-can-use-chatgpt-in-ministry/Quick Overview of ChatGPT For Church Leaders
https://churchtechtoday.com/chatgpt-for-church-leaders/11 Chat GPT Prompts for Church Leaders: A Prompt Engineering Bootcamp
https://www.churchtrac.com/articles/11-chat-gpt-prompts-for-church-leaders-a-prompt-engineering-bootcamp3 AI Prompts Church Leaders and Pastors Can Use With ChatGPT or JasperAI To Produce Ministry-Related Content
https://churchtechtoday.com/3-ai-prompts-for-chatgpt-or-jasperai-to-produce-ministry-content/ChatGPT for Bible Study — Seeking Wisdom in the Digital Age
https://medium.com/@whaleofathyme/seeking-wisdom-in-the-digital-age-leveraging-chatgpt-for-bible-study-dc3531a42adbHow to use ChatGPT for Bible study
https://seedtime.com/chatgpt-bible-study/Using ChatGPT to do advanced Bible study
https://syntagm.substack.com/p/using-chatgpt-to-do-bible-studyChatGPT for Bible Study - A Comprehensive Guide
https://www.gptbibles.com/2023/02/Chat .htmlHow To Create a Simple But Effective Bible Study Plan With ChatGPT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URWVtAtQncWhy ChatGPT WILL Improve Your Bible Study
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTacMgBVoJ8How to Study the Bible with AI Chatbots: ChatGPT, Bard, and Bing Chat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKaJHFRQIpwChat GPT: Your Sermon Writing Sidekick, Not Replacement
https://www.churchtrac.com/articles/chat-gpt-your-sermon-writing-sidekick-not-replacement4 must-know ChatGPT hacks to study better
https://studyinternational.com/news/how-to-study-better-2/32+ ChatGPT tips and tricks for beginners
https://www.geeky-gadgets.com/chatgpt-tips-and-tricks-for-beginners/Can ChatGPT write Bible Studies and Sermons?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_4FLFMwKxQChatGPT Prompts for Pastors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKKfaB_dqL8Using ChatGPT to Make Better Decisions
https://hbr.org/2023/08/using-chatgpt-to-make-better-decisionsMastering ChatGPT: How to Craft Effective Prompts (Full Guide)
https://gptbot.io/master-chatgpt-prompting-techniques-guide/How to use ChatGPT to do research for papers, presentations, studies, and more
https://www.zdnet.com/article/how-to-use-chatgpt-to-do-research-for-papers-presentations-studies-and-more/How can ChatGPT help in Bible Translation and Scripture Engagement?
https://emdc.blog/ai/how-can-chatgpt-help-in-bible-translation-and-scripture-engagement-2/0 -
I still say BARD gives me more accurate answers.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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ChatGPT was trained on text from the internet, and Google Bard was trained on a specific dataset for conversations. This leads some to argue that ChatGPT is better at producing paragraphs and summaries and other text-based processing tasks, while Google Bard is better at conversations.
ChatGPT vs Google Bard (2023): An In-Depth Comparison
https://www.techrepublic.com/article/chatgpt-vs-google-bard/ChatGPT vs. Bard: What's the Difference?
https://www.lifewire.com/chatgpt-vs-bard-7504876ChatGPT vs Google Bard: Which is better? We put them to the test.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/04/clash-of-the-ai-titans-chatgpt-vs-bard-in-a-showdown-of-wits-and-wisdom/Google Bard vs. ChatGPT: Which is Best?
https://www.howtogeek.com/897571/google-bard-vs-chatgpt-which-is-best/Bard vs. ChatGPT: What's the difference?
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/feature/Bard-vs-ChatGPT-Whats-the-differenceBard Vs. ChatGPT: The Major Difference Between The AI Chat Tools, Explained
https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2023/03/21/bard-vs-chatgpt-the-major-difference-between-the-ai-chat-tools-explained/AI chatbots compared: Bard vs. Bing vs. ChatGPT
https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/24/23653377/ai-chatbots-comparison-bard-bing-chatgpt-gpt-40 -
Bard
Pros:
- Free access to the internet, so it can provide up-to-date information and complete tasks that require real-time knowledge.
- Can retrieve images from the web, which can be helpful for providing visual context in responses.
- Better at generating human-like responses, which can be useful for conversational tasks like customer service and education.
- Still under development, but Google is investing heavily in its development, so it is likely to continue to improve over time.
Cons:
- Can be susceptible to hallucinations, so its output should be checked carefully.
- Not yet as widely used as ChatGPT, so there is a smaller community of users and developers.
- Does not have any plug-ins or integrations, so its functionality is more limited.
ChatGPT
Pros:
- More widely used than Bard, so there is a larger community of users and developers.
- Has a suite of plug-ins and integrations, which can extend its functionality.
- Better at text-processing tasks like summarization and paragraph writing.
Cons:
- Does not have free access to the internet, so its information may be out of date and it cannot complete tasks that require real-time knowledge.
- Cannot retrieve images from the web, so it cannot provide visual context in its responses.
- Not as good at generating human-like responses as Bard, which can make it less effective for conversational tasks.
Ultimately, the best choice between Bard and ChatGPT will depend on your specific needs and requirements. If you need a language model that can provide up-to-date information and complete tasks that require real-time knowledge, then Bard is a good option. If you need a language model that is good at text-processing tasks like summarization and paragraph writing, or that has a suite of plug-ins and integrations, then ChatGPT is a good option.
It is also important to keep in mind that both Bard and ChatGPT are still under development, so they are both likely to improve over time.
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Guno van Engel said:
ChatGPT was trained on text from the internet
For religious questions I can think of no better reason for NOT using ChatGPT - the internet's religious world includes many "kooks" instantly recognizable by densely packed text in multi-color type faces of multiple sizes. Yes, I am that prejudice against people whose layout shows no effort to communicate. And among the many reliable Christian websites, the distribution of content is not typical of the distribution of theological positions over time or place.
But I do thank you for the research you have done - it should be helpful to all Logos/Verbum users.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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ChatGPT was trained on text from the internet
That is why I look forward to GPT 4 Bible study Trained (Educated) on the Logos Bible Text Library0 -
Training is the key, or course. Untrained, AI isn't very helpful and may be harmful when it gives incorrect information or information that does not represent the curve of quality scholarship.
Training is much like the Logos-added-value of tags and Indexing. With tags and indexing we can better find what we want. Without tags or indexing, targeted searching is more difficult.
So, tag and index the library. Then use intelligent search. Logos has been working on that and making impressive progress.
AI as a search engine is only making Logos better.
I would vote for a way to shut it off for those who aren't yet convinced. The young and innovative are likely to see the added value. Those like me who are older, sometimes tend to hold the brakes for all the reasons we think we have, but I for one don't want to stand in the way of beneficial progress performed well--the Logos way.Maybe I should step away for now and let the younger, smarter ones think it through.
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ChatGPT is a computer program that can talk to people. It uses a special kind of system called “artificial intelligence” to understand what people are saying and to come up with answers.
When you talk to ChatGPT, you can ask it anything you want, like “What’s the weather like today?” or “What’s your favorite color?” ChatGPT will try to give you an answer that makes sense based on what it knows. That is, what it has been trained on.
ChatGPT knows a lot of things because it has read a lot of books and websites. It uses all of this information to help it understand what people are saying and to come up with answers. Sometimes ChatGPT might not know the answer to your question, but it will try its best to answer the question.
ChatGPT is really good at talking to people because it can understand different languages and different ways of talking. It can even tell jokes and stories! But sometimes ChatGPT might make mistakes or say something that doesn’t make sense. That’s okay, because it’s still learning and getting better all the time.
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I agree that training is important, along with attribution of the material used.
I would much prefer any AI search in Logos to be along the lines of the current experimental search being tested on the web app. This still gives the user a choice of types when searching within Logos. With thousands of books within my Logos library (and my library is small in comparison to many others), I would still want to know from which resource the information shared was taken.
Too often (and yet not always, I'm happy to say), AI searches on the web meld information from different sources without provenance, and that just will not work for me, especially when it comes to Bible study.
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
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It is all about implementation. CHATGPT provides a listing of the sources/references it has consulted. see the example below. Logos should also provide the same.
Prompt: Please provide me with a list of sample prompts for Bible study?
Certainly! Here are some sample prompts for Bible study:1. **What is the meaning of life?** ²
2. **Are we children of God now?** ²
3. **What is predestination?** ²
4. **Are we alone in the universe?** ²
5. **Does God want us to celebrate the biblical festivals? Why?** ²
6. **What is Passover?** ²
7. **What is the sign of Jonah? Did Jesus die on Good Friday and rise on Easter?** ²
8. **What does Pentecost mean?** ²You can also check out this [Bible Journal Guide](https://www.journalowl.com/blog/bible-journal-guide-99-prompts-with-examples-required-reading-ideas) which provides 99 daily journal prompts that can be used as part of a Bible study group. You can choose to participate in a JournalOwl community group with a secure video or use this in a live setting with your own church or small group. Each week you will complete a set number of journal prompts, then you will meet with your group weekly to discuss the assigned prompts.
I hope this helps!
Source: Conversation with Bing, 10/28/2023
(1) Bible Study Topics - Life, Hope and Truth. https://lifehopeandtruth.com/bible/bible-study/bible-study-topics/.
(2) Bible Journal Guide: 99 Prompts with Examples, Required Reading .... https://www.journalowl.com/blog/bible-journal-guide-99-prompts-with-examples-required-reading-ideas.
(3) 75+ Great Questions to Ask During Bible Study (Observation). https://deeperchristian.com/observations/.
(4) 155 Best Bible Research Paper Topics And Ideas. https://paperwritten.com/blog/bible-research-paper-topics/.0 -
Deep learning is a type of machine learning that allows computers to learn and make decisions independently, without explicitly programming them. It is a subset of artificial intelligence (AI) that uses algorithms inspired by the structure and function of the human brain to analyze data. Deep learning models are designed to automatically learn from data, and they can be used for a wide range of tasks such as image recognition, speech recognition, natural language processing, and more ²⁵.
In deep learning, a neural network is trained on large amounts of data to recognize patterns and make predictions. The neural network consists of layers of interconnected nodes that process information in a hierarchical manner. Each layer extracts features from the input data and passes them on to the next layer until the final output is produced ².
Deep learning has revolutionized many fields such as computer vision, speech recognition, natural language processing, and robotics. It has enabled significant advances in areas such as self-driving cars, medical diagnosis, and drug discovery ¹.
If you want to learn more about deep learning, you can check out the courses offered by DeepLearning.AI ¹..
Source: Conversation with Bing, 10/28/2023
(1) What Is Deep Learning? | A Beginner's Guide - Scribbr. https://www.scribbr.com/ai-tools/deep-learning/.
(2) Deep Learning. https://www.deeplearningbook.org/.
(3) DeepLearning.AI: Start or Advance Your Career in AI. https://www.deeplearning.ai/.
(4) ¿Qué es Deep Learning? | IBM. https://www.ibm.com/es-es/topics/deep-learning.
(5) Définition | Deep Learning - Apprentissage profond - Futura. https://www.futura-sciences.com/tech/definitions/intelligence-artificielle-deep-learning-17262/.
(6) Getty Images. https://www.gettyimages.com/detail/photo/deep-learning-logo-royalty-free-image/871793108.0 -
Deep learning is used to train CHATGPT
- Learning the Basics of Deep learning, ChatGPT, and Bard AI. https://www.analyticsvidhya.com/blog/2023/02/learning-the-basics-of-deep-learning-chatgpt-and-bard-ai/
- How ChatGPT works and AI, ML & NLP Fundamentals | Pentalog. https://www.pentalog.com/blog/tech-trends/chatgpt-fundamentals/
- Deep Learning in ChatGPT - A Survey | IEEE Conference Publication .... https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/10125852/
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It is clear that advances in artificial intelligence can be, and hopefully will be, used beneficially in Bible study, and I thank you for the examples you have shared. I used your examples in the experimental search in the Logos web app as well. I personally preferred the experimental Logos search experience to that in the Bing chat. I'm not a fan of the artificial chat, nor of the artificial blending of sources. I much prefer to be shown the sources and let me be the judge. To that end, I also used them in a traditional Bing search, finding similar answers, and in some instances answers that I felt were better than some that were shared in the chat.
I know that many like the idea of “chatting” with their computer, and if doing so helps them in their Bible study, I am hopeful that tools will improve toward that end. For me though, if chatting were the only way to conduct a search in Logos (or the internet for that matter), I would find myself using it less and less.
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
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I like both approaches, the one does not exclude the other. They can be complementary.
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I agree that a variety of learning tools can be valuable. We are all unique and lend ourselves to our own specific learning needs. What I don't want is to be forced to use one that doesn't work for me. Bing’s continual attempt to force me to use chat when I very clearly do not want to, gives me concern for other venues and whether they may do the same in the future.
One of the things that I like most about Logos is that I am free to explore a number of different ways to study within the software, without being forced to use one specific way. Sure, the learning curve may be long, but the benefit is great. There are many tools within Logos that others use regularly that I may never use, and vice versa. I also learn something new almost every month from other Logos users to improve my use of Logos. I appreciate this aspect of Logos and hope that it does not change in the future.
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
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Christianity certainly has come a long way. In the early days, it was somewhere between a doctrinal 'this' (early church), and a 'listen to your elders' (or priests as the case may be). Now we have do-it-yourself Bible study, and robots for spiritual guides!
Yes, I know, people should use judgment, but ...
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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DMB said:
Yes, I know, people should use judgment, but ...
With all the many people and things that have been used to aid us in our search for biblical truth throughout the ages, it does come down to discernment each time, doesn't it?
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
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"AI tools like ChatGPT are trained to predict strings of words that best match your query. They lack the reasoning, however, to apply logic or consider any factual inconsistencies they're spitting out. In other words, AI hallucinations occur when the AI goes off the rails trying to please you."
No, it has hallucinations. In other words ChatGPT makes stuff up; it's just a problem with the technology.[;)]
I think this should be taken into account:
"While ChatGPT can write credible scientific essays, the data it generates is a mix of true and completely fabricated ones. This raises concerns about the integrity and accuracy of using large language models in academic writing, such as ChatGPT. We propose that policy and practice for evaluating scientific manuscripts for journals and medical conferences be modified to maintain rigorous scientific standards. We also advocate for including AI output detectors in the editorial process and clear disclosure if these technologies are used. The use of large language models in scientific writing is still debatable regarding ethics and acceptability, together with the potential of creating false experts in the medical field with the potential of causing harm due to a lack of real experience and the generation of expert opinions through AI-ChatGPT."
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Sam Shelton said:
it does come down to discernment each time, doesn't it?
Actually not. As much as churchmen historically spent tremendous time 'discerning' (without too much success), when it was time for the 'lay' people, 'received' was the answer (either in the form of taught, or senior advice).
Chance are good the spiritual robot will not be discerning. Though presumably that's what the robot will be doing.
Added: I use 'robot' since already the chat functionality is in place for our dog robot (who hopefully is in fabrication at this very moment). Interestingly the manufacturer's official warnings demand 'no kids' (the robot is quite powerful). Chat'ers don't have such warnings.
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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In my life as a devoted Christian, I have encountered two types of clergy men.
- True to the Bible
- Not so true to the bible
In both cases it took me discernment, independent thinking and above all guidance from the Holy Spirit to chart my course. I believe it is the same with tools we use for bible study, be it CHATGPT or something else.
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DMB said:
Chance are good the spiritual robot will not be discerning. Though presumably that's what the robot will be doing.
I was speaking more to the discernment of the individual, as he seeks to grow in wisdom. If I were to fully speak my true opinion of whether discernment could come from a robot, I am afraid that I would violate the rules of this forum.
See, I can practice discernment.
Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14
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There is no going back, one way or the other, CHATGPT or similar tools will find their way. Thirty years ago, there was heavy resistance against using computers for Bible study. See where we are now, Logos has been a big game changer.
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