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  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    I asked CHATGPT the following question: I want you to act as a Bible scholar. I will provide some topics related to the study of the Bible, and it will be your job to explain these concepts in an easy-to-understand manner. Your writing style is academic, presenting scholarly research and analysis in a formal manner, while incorporating technical language and
    extensive citation. My first question is "I need help studying the book of Romans in the King James version"

    Response:
    Thank you for your question. The book of Romans is a letter written by the apostle Paul to the church in Rome. It is considered one of the most important books in the New Testament, as it provides a comprehensive explanation of the gospel message and its implications for both Jews and Gentiles.

    The King James Version (KJV) is a popular translation of the Bible that was first published in 1611. It is known for its use of archaic language and its poetic style, which has made it a favorite among many Christians.

    To study the book of Romans in the KJV, it is important to first understand the historical and cultural context in which it was written. This will help you to better understand the meaning of the text and its relevance to your life today.

    One way to do this is to read commentaries on the book of Romans written by scholars who are experts in this field. These commentaries can provide valuable insights into the meaning of the text, as well as historical background information that can help you to better understand the context in which it was written.

    Another helpful resource is a study Bible, which includes notes and commentary alongside the text of the Bible. This can be especially helpful if you are new to studying the Bible or if you are looking for a more in-depth understanding of the text.

    Finally, it is important to pray for guidance and wisdom as you study the book of Romans. The Holy Spirit can provide insight and understanding that goes beyond what any human commentary or study guide can offer.

    I hope this information is helpful as you begin your study of the book of Romans in the KJV. If you have any further questions or need additional resources, please let me know.

    Source: Conversation with Bing, 10/31/2023
    (1) ROMANS CHAPTER 1 KJV - King James Bible Online. https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Romans-Chapter-1/.
    (2) Romans (KJV) : King James Version : Free Download, Borrow, and .... https://archive.org/details/romans_kjv_1103_librivox.
    (3) Romans - Bible Book Chapters and Summary - King James Version. https://www.christianity.com/bible/kjv/romans/.
    (4) Romans 1 | KJV Bible | YouVersion | The Bible App | Bible.com. https://www.bible.com/bible/1/ROM.1.kjv.
    (5) Book of Romans KJV - Read the King James Bible Online - Bible Study Tools. https://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/romans/.

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    I asked CHATGPT the following question: I want you to act as a Bible scholar. I will provide some topics related to the study of the Bible, and it will be your job to explain these concepts in an easy-to-understand manner. Your writing style is academic, presenting scholarly research and analysis in a formal manner, while incorporating technical language and extensive citation. Please provide me with an in dept analysis of roman chapters 1 to 5?

    Response:
    Thank you for your question. The book of Romans is a letter written by the apostle Paul to the church in Rome. It is considered one of the most important books in the New Testament, as it provides a comprehensive explanation of the gospel message and its implications for both Jews and Gentiles.

    The first five chapters of Romans are particularly significant, as they provide an overview of the gospel message and its implications for humanity. Here is a brief summary of each chapter:

    - **Chapter 1**: In this chapter, Paul introduces himself and his mission to preach the gospel to all people. He then goes on to describe how humanity has turned away from God and become corrupt, worshiping created things rather than the Creator. He argues that all people are guilty before God and in need of salvation.

    - **Chapter 2**: In this chapter, Paul addresses those who believe that they are righteous because they follow the law. He argues that no one can be justified by works of the law, but only through faith in Jesus Christ. He also emphasizes that God's judgment is impartial and that all people will be judged according to their deeds.

    - **Chapter 3**: In this chapter, Paul continues his argument that all people are guilty before God and in need of salvation. He emphasizes that no one is righteous on their own, but that righteousness comes through faith in Jesus Christ. He also explains how Jesus' death on the cross provides a way for people to be justified before God.

    - **Chapter 4**: In this chapter, Paul uses Abraham as an example of someone who was justified by faith rather than works. He argues that Abraham was declared righteous because he believed God's promises, not because he followed the law. Paul emphasizes that this same principle applies to all people who have faith in Jesus Christ.

    - **Chapter 5**: In this chapter, Paul explains how justification by faith leads to peace with God and hope for the future. He contrasts Adam, who brought sin into the world, with Jesus Christ, who brought salvation. Paul argues that just as sin entered the world through one man (Adam), so salvation has come through one man (Jesus Christ).

    I hope this analysis provides you with a better understanding of the first five chapters of Romans. If you have any further questions or need additional resources, please let me know.

    Source: Conversation with Bing, 10/31/2023
    (1) Romans - CliffsNotes. https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literature/n/new-testament-of-the-bible/summary-and-analysis/romans.
    (2) Romans - Verse-by-Verse Bible Commentary - StudyLight.org. https://www.studylight.org/commentary/romans.html.
    (3) Book of Romans Overview - Insight for Living Ministries. https://www.insight.org/resources/bible/the-pauline-epistles/romans.
    (4) Romeo and Juliet: Study Guide | SparkNotes. https://www.sparknotes.com/shakespeare/romeojuliet/.
    (5) Romans Summary—God's Amazing Story of Relentless Grace - JCBlog.net. https://www.jcblog.net/romans/summary.

  • Mark Rodgers
    Mark Rodgers Member Posts: 157 ✭✭

    Hey Brandon.

    Here is a narrative arc prompt I designed.

    In the "D. Passage and Big Idea" section, insert the relevant biblical passage in "<passage> =" and leave the "<big idea> =" blank (or manually complete it with the big idea of the passage.

    ______________________

    Narration and Storytelling in Biblical Preaching Prompt

    Narrative Arc

    A. Prompt Objectives

    Here is are the objectives of the prompt:

    • Analyse and write about a biblical narrative <passage> in an insightful and thought-provoking way.
    • Identify and discuss the elements of the <passage>, such as plot structure, characters, and key themes.
    • Connect the narrative to modern-day experiences, making it relevant and impactful for contemporary believers.
    • Use the insights from the biblical narrative <passage> to deliver powerful narrative based sermons.

    B. Prompt Instructions

    To achieve the objectives, follow these instructions:

    • Write in vivid, memorable, and engaging language, using contractions where appropriate.
    • Focus on creating an immersive and gripping narrative experience by incorporating sensory details, evoking emotions, and building suspense and anticipation.
    • Use powerful analogies, metaphors and other memorable linguistic techniques to make the story relevant and relatable to the reader.
    • Support assertions related to the passage with biblical citations enclosed in round brackets. When citing from the same book as the <passage>, omit the book name and only include the chapter and verse(s), for example, (4:4-6). For any citations outwith the book of the <passage>, use abbreviated citations e.g. Ps 1:1.
    • Each section should contains distinct information and, if possible, provide alternative insights instead of repeating previously mentioned information.
    • For each section of the output, ensure that you stick to the <passage> when breaking down the narrative instead of the entire chapter.

    C. Prompt Definitions

    Here are the definitions to be used in the prompt:

    1. Introduction: Sum up the historical, cultural, and sociopolitical factors that shaped the narrative, using vivid descriptions to immerse the reader in the context. Explain how these factors influenced the customs, beliefs, and values in the story, emphasising their impact on the narrative and its intended message.
    2. Narrative Arc: Detail the story, incorporating the significant elements and narrative structure: Exposition, Rising action, Climax, Falling action and Resolution. Use vivid language, sensory details, and emotive storytelling to captivate your audience, incorporating reflective and rhetorical questions, as well as analogies and metaphors, to provoke deeper thinking and personal connections.
    • a. Exposition: Immerse the reader in the biblical narrative by providing background information on the main characters, setting, and circumstances using vivid language and sensory details to paint a picture of the world in which the story takes place, allowing the reader to fully understand the "who," "where," and "when" of the passage. Use vivid language, sensory details, and rhetorical questions to make the setting more engaging and relatable.
    • b. Rising action: Describe how the conflict in the biblical narrative begins to escalate, describing the inciting incident that sets the story's main events in motion. Do this by using powerful language and evocative imagery to convey the growing tension and make the audience feel invested in the unfolding drama.
    • c. Climax: Describe this pivotal moment in the story, the tension reaches its peak, and the main character must confront the truth or make a critical decision using suspense, anticipation, and intense emotions to create a gripping climax that captivates the reader and highlights the significance of the character's choice using evocative, impactful and emotive imagery. 
    • d. Falling action: Describe the protagonist's decision, narrate the unfolding events during the falling action, illustrating the resolution of the conflict and the tying up of loose ends. Employ contrasting language, cause and effect, and emotive storytelling to demonstrate the impact of the narrative's events on the characters and their world.
    • e. Resolution: In the final phase of the narrative arc, reveal how the story concludes using reflective language, questions, and powerful insights to leave a lasting impression on the reader, inviting them to consider the lessons and themes of the biblical narrative in their own lives. The resolution may not always be happy, but it should offer closure and demonstrate the transformative power of the story's events on the characters and their surroundings.
    • f. Theme: Identify and discuss the central themes and messages of the biblical narrative, connecting them to contemporary issues and concerns. Explore the relevance of these themes in the lives of modern readers, encouraging reflection and application of biblical principles in today's world.
    1. Title: Following the section title and biblical citation write a <title> that reflects the narrative progression in the light of the big idea that is captivating, thought-provoking, gripping, memorable and engaging.
    2. Big Idea: To find the Big Idea in a biblical passage, first read the passage thoroughly and identify the main topic that dominates the passage. Next, formulate a subject question that includes the main topic and begins with one of the interrogatives (who, what, where, when, why, or how), making sure not to include the word "and." Then, identify the complement, which consists of the answer(s) to the subject question. Finally, combine the subject and complement to derive the Big Idea, which encapsulates the central message or theme of the passage. This process will help ensure that your interpretation remains faithful to the text's original context and meaning while remaining relevant to a modern audience.

    D. Passage and Big Idea

    Here is the biblical narrative passage of the prompt an the big idea of the passage:

    <passage> = Numbers 20:14–29

    <big idea> = Leaders’ plans fail and leaders die, but God’s work goes on

    E. Prompt Output

    Here is the biblical output for the prompt (execute the prompt using vivid language, evocative imagery, and powerful storytelling techniques and ensure all the prompt headings are in bold and sub-header italicised):

    **Narration and Storytelling in Biblical Preaching - Narrative Arc**

    **Passage:**

    **Main Topic:**

    **Big Idea:**

    **Introduction**

    **Narrative Arc**

    *a. Exposition (cite the passage e.g. 12:1): <title>*

    *b. Rising action (cite the passage e.g. 12:2-4): <title>*

    *c. Climax (cite the passage e.g. 12:5-8): <title>*

    *d. Falling action (cite the passage e.g. 12:9-12): <title>*

    *e. Resolution (cite the passage e.g. 12:13-14): <title>*

    *f. Theme*

    Original Libronix user, living in Scotland, running 29,500 resources on Mac Studio (2022).

  • Mark Rodgers
    Mark Rodgers Member Posts: 157 ✭✭

    Once I posted the formatting has changed the numbered sequence of "Title" and "Big Idea". Just manually change these to 3 and 4.

    Best results are in GPT-4.

    Original Libronix user, living in Scotland, running 29,500 resources on Mac Studio (2022).

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    Do you have more prompts you are willing to share... [:)]

  • Brandon Early
    Brandon Early Member Posts: 111

    This is a very robust prompt. I am trying to create a prompt for a “sermon brief.” I’m not looking for it to write a sermon (I’m not saying anyone in here is) or to do my message prep, but I would love a research assistant (ultimately, I would like AI to know, and understand my Logos library, so it can pull a better sermon, briefing). I always want to preach using “my voice“ not someone else’s, and certainly not an AI chatbot. 😁

    Side Note: Sometimes I will copy and paste a dozen commentary resources for a specific verse or passage, and save that as a PDF, then dump it in to Claude 2 and then ask it questions. 

  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭

    Rather than coming up with the perfect prompt, I just start in general with a good prompt and then fine tune it from there depending on results and / or hallucinations. 

    Often one or two tunings gets me spot on. But always double check results with original sources. Logos is perfect for that. 

  • Yasmin Stephen
    Yasmin Stephen Member Posts: 1,664 ✭✭✭

    If anyone is interested, Coursera just released a new basic course on generative AI, Generative AI for Everyone. It's only 3 modules (~6 hours to complete). Free to audit, and $49 if you want a certificate.

    Coursera Info:
    Instructed by AI pioneer Andrew Ng, Generative AI for Everyone offers his unique perspective on empowering you and your work with generative AI. Andrew will guide you through how generative AI works and what it can (and can’t) do. It includes hands-on exercises where you'll learn to use generative AI to help in day-to-day work and receive tips on effective prompt engineering, as well as learning how to go beyond prompting for more advanced uses of AI.

    You’ll get insights into what generative AI can do, its potential, and its limitations. You’ll delve into real-world applications and learn common use cases. You’ll get hands-on time with generative AI projects to put your knowledge into action and gain insight into its impact on both business and society.

    This course was created to ensure everyone can be a participant in our AI-powered future.

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    Quote: This course was created to ensure everyone can be a participant in our AI-powered future.

    The fact is, that future is already here, only a lot of people do not realize this yet …….

  • Stephen Otto
    Stephen Otto Member Posts: 31 ✭✭

    Where I see AI integration being most useful to Logos specifically would be to somehow integrate it into Factbook to make Factbook queries even more effective and comprehensive. Perhaps the top, initial factbook summary could be generated by an AI query of all relevant resources to provide a consensus view, for example. 

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭

    Perhaps the top, initial factbook summary could be generated by an AI query of all relevant resources to provide a consensus view, for example. 

    Good heavens, no.  

    Maybe Factbook could summarize itself.

    Or maybe a setting to simply eliminate 'Factbook'. Smiling.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,284

    Perhaps the top, initial factbook summary could be generated by an AI query of all relevant resources to provide a consensus view, for example. 

    AI has little sense of what is mainstream, what is biased, what is fringe ... it's not very good at a consensus view unless trained on very carefully selected texts that reflect consensus thought.

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    Question to CHATGPT: Can AI summarize a book?

    Response from CHATGPT: Yes, AI can certainly summarize a book. To do so, it needs either the full text of the book or comprehensive information about its content, themes, characters, and plot. Once it has this information, the AI can process it to extract the most important points and present a condensed version that captures the essence of the book.

    For example, if you provided the title and a brief description of a book's narrative, I could generate a summary for you. If you're interested in a specific book summary, feel free to provide the details or the text you'd like summarized.

    I am looking forward to this feature in Logos

  • Brandon Early
    Brandon Early Member Posts: 111

    MJ. Smith said:

    AI has little sense of what is mainstream, what is biased, what is fringe ... it's not very good at a consensus view unless trained on very carefully selected texts that reflect consensus thought.

    I have not experienced that. Good prompts or better prompts might be your answer. 

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 54,284

    Good prompts or better prompts might be your answer. 

    Unfortunately, I know too much about the inner workings of AI ... I am very good at showing it will give garbage answers (my premier characteristic as a tester over a 30 year career) in ways that leave me very suspicious of the quality of the seemingly good answers. I am also firmly opposed to the computer-user Bible study method that consists of entering a query and nodding sagely at the results ... usually with little understanding. I love AI for summarization after one has actually read the material, for prioritizing results especially within a feedback loop, to get trailhead references to go down rabbit trails ...

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Brandon Early
    Brandon Early Member Posts: 111

    MJ. Smith said:

    Unfortunately, I know too much about the inner workings of AI ... I am very good at showing it will give garbage answers.

    I’m sure you are really good. But I’m not sure what you are saying.

    Bottom line,  Ai is not flawless, EVERYONE should fact check the results, but the lack of success mostly seems to be the quality of prompt and a lazy fact checker.

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62


    Question to CHATGPT: please elaborate on your flaws and weaknesses?

    Response from ChatGPT: As an AI developed by OpenAI, I have limitations inherent to my design and the current state of technology. Here are some of my main flaws and weaknesses:

    1. **Lack of Understanding**: While I can process and generate language at a level that can seem understanding, I don't possess true comprehension or consciousness. My responses are generated based on patterns in data rather than genuine understanding.

    2. **Dependence on Input Data**: My responses are limited by the data I was trained on. If I wasn't trained on certain information, or if the data was scarce or biased, my responses can be inaccurate or reflect those biases.

    3. **No Personal Experience or Emotion**: I don't have feelings, beliefs, desires, or experiences. I can simulate conversation about these topics, but I can't provide personal insights or emotional depth.

    4. **Contextual Limitations**: I can struggle with complex contexts or with following long, convoluted conversations. My ability to keep track of context degrades as the conversation goes on, which can lead to errors in understanding or relevance.

    5. **Literal Interpretations**: I tend to interpret instructions literally and can miss nuance or implied meaning that a human would pick up on.

    6. **No Creativity in the Human Sense**: While I can generate novel content by recombining elements of my training data in new ways, I don't have creativity in the human sense. I don't generate ideas or art driven by emotion, personal experience, or a unique perspective.

    7. **Information Currency**: My knowledge is up to date only until my last training cut-off, which was in April 2023. I'm not aware of events or developments that occurred after that unless they're part of a major update.

    8. **Risk of Misinformation**: Since I rely on the quality of the data I was trained on, I can inadvertently perpetuate misinformation or outdated facts.

    9. **Ethical and Privacy Considerations**: I can't make moral judgments or understand ethical nuances in the way humans do. Also, while I’m designed to respect user privacy and confidentiality, the trustworthiness is contingent upon the systems and protocols in place by OpenAI and its use by users.

    10. **Manipulation and Misuse**: If fed with leading questions or prompts, I might generate harmful, biased, or inappropriate content, despite safeguards in place to prevent this.

    11. **Resource Intensive**: The infrastructure required to run sophisticated AI models like me is resource-intensive, with significant energy demands, which has environmental and economic impacts.

    12. **Error Propagation**: If I generate an error and it's not caught and corrected, that error can be propagated by users who assume the information is correct because it came from an AI.

    13. **Over-reliance by Users**: Users might become over-reliant on my responses, using them as a substitute for professional advice in areas like medicine, legal, or safety-critical domains, where my advice should only be a starting point for further research or consultation with a professional.

    Recognizing these limitations is part of the ongoing research and development in the field of AI. Continuous improvements are being made to address these weaknesses, but some are inherent to the current state of artificial intelligence technology.

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    I asked CHATGPT the following question: List AI Limitations and Weaknesses? next elaborate on how to overcome each of these weaknesses.

    Response: Artificial intelligence, while powerful, has a number of limitations and weaknesses:

     1. **Lack of Common Sense**:

       - **AI Weakness**: AI systems struggle with common sense reasoning and understanding context in the same way humans do.

       - **Overcoming**: Advances in natural language understanding and machine learning models that can integrate broader world knowledge are being researched. Human oversight and decision-making remain crucial.

     2. **Bias in Data**:

       - **AI Weakness**: AI algorithms can inherit and amplify biases present in their training data.

       - **Overcoming**: Careful curation of datasets, bias detection algorithms, and diversity in AI development teams can mitigate this. Continuous monitoring and updating of AI systems are essential.

     3. **Generalization**:

       - **AI Weakness**: AI systems trained on specific tasks or datasets may not generalize well to different tasks or data distributions.

       - **Overcoming**: Using more robust training that includes a variety of scenarios and employing techniques such as transfer learning can help.

     4. **Interpretability and Explainability**:

       - **AI Weakness**: Many AI models, particularly deep neural networks, are often seen as "black boxes" with decisions that are not easily interpretable by humans.

       - **Overcoming**: Development of explainable AI (XAI) models and techniques to visualize and explain decision-making processes can improve trust and understanding.

     5. **Dependency and Automation Complacency**:

       - **AI Weakness**: Over-reliance on AI can lead to skills degradation in humans and reduced vigilance, known as automation complacency.

       - **Overcoming**: Ensuring that AI systems are designed to support human decision-making rather than replace it, and providing adequate training for users.

     6. **Energy Consumption**:

       - **AI Weakness**: Training large AI models is energy-intensive and has a significant environmental impact.

       - **Overcoming**: Research into more efficient neural network architectures, and algorithms can reduce the computational load.

     7. **Security and Safety**:

       - **AI Weakness**: AI systems can be vulnerable to adversarial attacks or might fail in unpredictable ways.

       - **Overcoming**: Implementing robust security measures, adversarial training, and thorough testing under various scenarios can enhance safety.

     8. **Cost**:

       - **AI Weakness**: Developing, training, and deploying AI systems can be costly and resource-intensive.

       - **Overcoming**: Leveraging cloud computing resources, optimizing algorithms for less resource use, and developing models that can be trained with less data can help reduce costs.

     9. **Data Privacy**:

       - **AI Weakness**: AI systems often require large amounts of data, which can raise privacy concerns.

       - **Overcoming**: Use of techniques like federated learning, differential privacy, and homomorphic encryption can help protect individual data privacy.

     10. **Regulatory and Ethical Challenges**:

        - **AI Weakness**: There is uncertainty regarding the ethical implications and the regulation of AI.

        - **Overcoming**: Development of AI ethics guidelines, policies, and laws to regulate the development and use of AI, with a focus on human rights and ethical considerations.

     Overcoming these weaknesses is an ongoing process involving interdisciplinary collaboration across the fields of computer science, ethics, psychology, and domain-specific expertise. Continuous advancements in AI research and the development of best practices in AI governance are crucial for addressing these challenges.

  • Stephen Otto
    Stephen Otto Member Posts: 31 ✭✭

    The thing about the Factbook is that it is currently limited to topics which Logos staff has properly tagged and denoted as a "topic."  This leaves thousands of topics untreated by Factbook, even in very large libraries.   To balance the need for more topical treatment versus the potential AI "hallucinations," why not give users the option, tied to a warning/disclosure?  For example, when the initial search is conducted via Factbook or the main Logos search bar, Logos could come back with an option allowing the user to re-search using AI and formulate a Factbook entry, with the dislaimers.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭

    Logos could come back with an option allowing the user to re-search using AI and formulate a Factbook entry, with the dislaimers.

    Hallucinatingly not good. Even Factbook is its own bias; so-called AI is asking for "Door #3" (old game show). There's nothing that prohibits doing a google search currently ... nothing that prohiblts a ChatGPT. Nothing that demands integration.

    I like the disclaimer, don't trust me.

    "If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    I asked CHATGPT: compare google search and chatgpt, which one is more trustworthy?

    Response: Trustworthiness in the context of information sources like Google Search and ChatGPT often refers to the accuracy, reliability, and bias of the information provided. Here's a comparative look at the two:

     ### Google Search

     **Pros**:

    - **Vast Information Access**: Google Search has access to the vast expanse of the internet, providing a wealth of information on virtually any topic.

    - **Up-to-date Information**: It can provide the most recent information available from websites across the internet.

    - **Diverse Perspectives**: Offers multiple sources for a given query, which allows users to see different viewpoints and cross-verify information.

    - **Authoritative Sources**: Often directs users to established, authoritative sources.

     **Cons**:

    - **Information Overload**: Can overwhelm users with too much information, some of which may be irrelevant or low quality.

    - **SEO Manipulation**: Search results can be influenced by search engine optimization (SEO) techniques, which may not always correlate with trustworthiness.

    - **Filter Bubbles**: Personalized search can lead to a "filter bubble," where the system reinforces the user's preexisting beliefs.

     ### ChatGPT

     **Pros**:

    - **Conversational Context**: Can understand and maintain conversational context, which may lead to more nuanced answers.

    - **Summarization**: Able to synthesize information from various sources into a coherent response.

    - **No Ads or SEO**: Responses are not influenced by advertising or SEO gaming.

     **Cons**:

    - **Limited Knowledge**: ChatGPT's knowledge is limited to what it was trained on up to its last update, and it does not have access to real-time internet data.

    - **Potential for Errors**: While the model aims to provide accurate information, it can sometimes generate incorrect or misleading responses if it "hallucinates" details.

    - **No Sources Provided**: It does not provide sources for its information, which makes it difficult to verify the accuracy of the information provided directly.

     ### Trustworthiness Comparison

     - **Reliability of Information**: Google Search may lead to more reliable information as it can point to real-time, authoritative sources, while ChatGPT's responses are based on patterns it learned during training.

    - **Verification**: With Google Search, users can verify the information by checking the credibility of the sources. ChatGPT requires users to verify the information through external means since it doesn't cite sources.

    - **Bias and Objectivity**: Both systems can reflect biases present in their input data or design. Google's algorithms are proprietary, while OpenAI has published details about how ChatGPT has been trained, which provides some transparency.

     ### Conclusion

     Neither platform is inherently more trustworthy than the other; instead, they have different uses. Google Search is a tool for finding a range of sources and information, while ChatGPT is a conversational agent that can provide immediate, synthesized responses based on its training data. For critical information, it is always best to cross-reference facts from multiple authoritative sources. Users should exercise critical thinking and consider the nature of their query, the necessity of up-to-date information, and the need for source verification when determining which platform to use.

  • Guno van Engel
    Guno van Engel Member Posts: 62

    Please provide me with a framework for bible study using CHATGPT? Also take into consideration using google search. Next provide me with an extensive list of prompts to conduct all manners of bible study. Please take into consideration all the known bible study methods.

    Creating a framework for Bible study using ChatGPT and Google Search can help facilitate a comprehensive understanding of biblical texts. Here's a step-by-step framework that you can follow:

    ### Bible Study Framework Using ChatGPT and Google Search:

    #### 1. Choose a Passage or Theme
    - Use ChatGPT to suggest a list of important biblical passages or themes.
    - Use Google Search to find a reading plan or a Bible study guide based on your interest.

    #### 2. Contextual Analysis
    - **ChatGPT**: Ask for historical and cultural background of the chosen passage.
    - **Google Search**: Look for biblical commentaries or scholarly articles that provide deeper context.

    #### 3. Literary Study
    - **ChatGPT**: Inquire about the literary genre and structure of the passage.
    - **Google Search**: Search for online courses or lectures on biblical literature that relate to your passage.

    #### 4. Exegesis
    - **ChatGPT**: Request an explanation of difficult verses or concepts.
    - **Google Search**: Find various translations and exegeses of the passage for comparison.

    #### 5. Theological Reflection
    - **ChatGPT**: Discuss the theological themes and implications of the passage.
    - **Google Search**: Research how different denominations interpret the passage.

    #### 6. Practical Application
    - **ChatGPT**: Brainstorm ways to apply the passage's teachings to modern life.
    - **Google Search**: Look for articles, blogs, or testimonies about living out biblical principles found in the passage.

    #### 7. Prayer and Meditation
    - **ChatGPT**: Generate a prayer that relates to the themes of your study.
    - **Google Search**: Look for meditative practices and prayers related to Bible study.

    #### 8. Cross-References
    - **ChatGPT**: Ask for related verses and parallel passages.
    - **Google Search**: Use an online Bible study tool to find cross-references.

    #### 9. Integration into Larger Biblical Narrative
    - **ChatGPT**: Discuss how the passage fits into the grand narrative of the Bible.
    - **Google Search**: Find theological discussions on biblical theology and narrative.

    #### 10. Group Discussion Preparation
    - **ChatGPT**: Create discussion questions for a Bible study group.
    - **Google Search**: Search for group study guides and shared insights from others who have studied the passage.

    ### Extensive List of Bible Study Prompts

    1. What is the historical and cultural context of [Book/Chapter/Verse]?
    2. What literary devices are evident in [Passage] and what do they contribute to its message?
    3. How does [Verse] relate to the overarching message of the Gospel?
    4. What are the key theological themes in [Book/Chapter/Verse]?
    5. How can I apply [Verse/Theme] to my life today?
    6. What does [Passage] teach us about God’s character?
    7. How do various translations of [Verse] differ, and what might those differences indicate?
    8. What prayer can be derived from the teachings of [Passage]?
    9. Are there any parables in [Book] and what are their deeper meanings?
    10. How does [Passage] reflect the fulfillment of prophecy?
    11. What contradictions, if any, seem to appear in [Passage] and how might they be resolved?
    12. What parallel passages complement the study of [Verse]?
    13. How is [Theme] developed throughout the Bible?
    14. What are some practical ways to live out the commandments found in [Passage]?
    15. How can the message of [Passage] inform our understanding of [Modern Issue]?

  • Brandon Early
    Brandon Early Member Posts: 111

    OpenAl DevDay, Opening Keynote:

    OpenAI just made it easier than ever to create you own GPT at their first ever “OpenAl DevDay.”  Logos developers are able to work on/create LogosGPT today. 

  • Brandon Early
    Brandon Early Member Posts: 111

    OpenAl DevDay, Opening Keynote:

    OpenAI just made it easier than ever to create you own GPT at their first ever “OpenAl DevDay.”  Logos developers are able to work on/create LogosGPT today. 

  • JH
    JH Member Posts: 801 ✭✭✭

    OpenAl DevDay, Opening Keynote:

    OpenAI just made it easier than ever to create you own GPT at their first ever “OpenAl DevDay.”  Logos developers are able to work on/create LogosGPT today. 

    Starting at timestamp 21:00, Altman discusses building custom GPTs based on one's own knowledge set and needs (built using natural language interaction - demo included). Maybe Logos (Mark Barnes) can give us more insight into what they are experimenting with and how they envision incorporating some of these tools into their products (beyond what they are already doing with text summaries, tweaks to the search engine, etc). This is a fast-moving train...

    The keynote is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9mJuUkhUzk

  • David Paul
    David Paul Member Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭

    Zhu Feng said:

    Yes, LogosGPT is a good idea

    If it focuses on factual data and avoids interpretive data, it can be...maybe.

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  • Van Tilians would say that there are no "brute facts." All data is interpreted data. Even if someone disagrees with this sort of unqualified claim, it's harder to disagree that, at least for the vast majority of data that is of interest to a Bible student or scholar, we aren't talking about brute facts or uninterpreted data. For example, consider claims about dates. These appear pretty obvious candidates for "factual data", right? But obviously rest on all sorts of interpreted data. 

    I think the concern over the factual v. interpretive distinction is probably better registered as a consensus issue. If there were "broad scholarly consensus" (call it BSC for short) on some issue then one might be less concerned about AI generating some response on this topic since it is easy to verify/refute. But what about when AI generates a response where there is no BSC?

    Imagine beliefs as being justified by two columns with many rows. The two columns are "evidence in favor" and "evidence against." And each row is a piece of evidence. Normally, we consider that if a person says something, it is (testimonial) evidence for that thing. It may be stronger or weaker depending on lots of other factors, but testimonial evidence is a very important part of our epistemology. 

    I think the worry that some people are getting at with AI is that if AI generates a response, people might be inclined to treat it in the normal sort of (testimonial) evidence way. But this also seems wrong... surely AI testimony isn't like human testimony and shouldn't be treated with the same epistemic credit?

    Without diving deeper into the weeds here, I think that's probably correct (or in the right neighborhood)--although AI must have *some* sort of testimonial warrant by derivation (assuming its responses or "testimony" are pointing to some statistical likelihood of a human testimony).

    But ultimately I don't think this worry matters in terms of the tool maker or developer. People are going to bring their "interpretive data" concerns to AI and see what it says regardless of whether or not Logos provides an immediate way to do that. The idea that Logos would have something like blood on its hands were it to do so has way too much (undefined) baggage associated with it for me to take that seriously without someone giving it a serious argument. And so far I haven't seen any. I see no reason Logos can't responsibly develop immediate integration, while giving users lots of cautions along the lines that all the other LLM developers are doing. If Logos doesn't do it, it won't be long till another company or publisher does.

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  • GaoLu
    GaoLu Member Posts: 3,501 ✭✭✭

    Facts we already have. Interpretive data is what I am often looking for. 

    We must keep in mind the difference and not mistake one for the other.  I am hoping AI can help with that as well.

  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,997 ✭✭✭✭

    GaoLu said:

    Facts we already have. Interpretive data is what I am often looking for. 

    I'm just the opposite.  Logos is chock full of opinions ... even the 'most scholars agree' kind.  What is hard to find are 'facts' ... the basis for those opinions.  Any chat'er is dependent on those same opinions.

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