Removal of Search icon in main toolbar in 30.0.0 (6)

Hi Matt

Graham, any chance you were on a tablet? 

Thanks for checking and clarifying. Yes, I was using a tablet (I run the beta app on my iPad).

On the stable Verbum app, I see a Bible and a Search icon

While on the beta Logos app I don’t see a search icon

From your reply earlier it looks as though this wasn’t intentional

Are you able to clarify please?

While on the beta Logos app I don’t see a search icon

Over the last few days I have been using the mobile app quite a bit and, on both occasions, the lack of a search button in the toolbar was something I really noticed.

It would be really helpful to know if this change is planned to be reversed.

Thanks, Graham

Thanks Bradley for responding

I found that if you tap the Search (magnifying glass) icon on the resource toolbar, and then type in a Bible reference, the app will offer the option to navigate to that reference. So this functionality hasn't been removed, but has been moved behind the Search icon.

I see what you are saying but the functionality is different.

The search options available from the search icon in the toolbar are an inline search, a "full" search on the open book, a search on all books in the library or a search on all open books (along with some Factbook search options)

Whereas the search function previously availalble in the toolbar defaulted to searching my top Bible - which is most often what I want to be doing.

And the search icon in the resource toolbar isn't available if I have, for example the Factbook tool or a Sermon document, open.

I'm still struggling to understand why it was removed!

Apologies Bradley - I’ve just seen you were replying to Rick and not me!

Just following up on this.

I thought that from Matt's comment above it was possible that removing the search button on tablets had been an oversight.

But with the stable version having just dropped - with the search button removed - I just wanted to check again whether this was intentional and if so whether it could be reversed?

It just seems, to me, a removal of very useful functionality for no good reason.

Hi Mark - and thanks for responding.

It sounds like the thing you're missing most is the ability to search your top Bible when you're not actually reading your Bible

No - it's actually more general.

I can be reading in my preferred Bible and come across something and want to either search within the Bible or in my wider library. I know I can initiate this search using the search icon at the top of the panel but it seems more of a process than simply clicking a search icon at the bottom of the screen.

Or I can be reading in a book and want to conduct a search - either in a Bible or elsewhere. 

Or I can have the Factbook Tool open and want to search something - and in that case there isn't even a search icon at the top of the panel

At the moment, the workflow would be:

• Hit the Bible button to open your preferred Bible
• Tap the search button and enter your search
• Tap Inline or This book

I recognise that, but previously it was clicking a search icon and entering the search. So I come back to asking why it was felt necessary to change this.

Alternatively, you could:

• Tap the Hamburger menu
• Tab Search

Yes that does work - although it is two taps as opposed to one to get a search panel open. And, sometimes, the hamburger menu is "down a few levels" due to things I have been doing - yesterday when I opened it it would have shown mobile favorites - and it is then necessary to navigate back up the hamburger menu.

I hope this helps outline some of the reasons I am struggling with the change.

Thanks, Graham