Looking for recommendations for non-Pentecostal charismatic resources
Hello!
So, I know I'm in the minority on this forum being non-Pentecostal, but I'm hoping to get lucky and get some good recommendations for resources. I've purchased a good chunk of the P&C and BEP Legacy packs as well as the Logos 9/10 ones. I have most of the silver and below of P&C and BEP. I am looking for some good resources (commentaries and Study Bibles mainly) that don't have a heavy emphasis on the Wesleyan-Holiness side of Pentecostalism. I don't mind at all if they're from a Pentecostal author, but I'm more so looking for commentaries that would fall more into the "3rd wave" category and have a more evangelical flavor. Just to name a couple names to hopefully better explain what I'm looking for: Jon Courson, Chuck Smith, Sam Storms, Wayne Grudem, Greg Laurie, Matt Chandler, or authors from the Calvary Chapel or Vineyard movements.
I know it's a bit of a shot in the dark but does anyone have any suggestions? Also, a side note, I'm looking at the Fire Bible right now which seems to be well reviewed. Would this be a good resource to pick up?
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Frank Hodges said:
I know it's a bit of a shot in the dark but does anyone have any suggestions? Also, a side note, I'm looking at the Fire Bible right now which seems to be well reviewed. Would this be a good resource to pick up?
The Fire Bible would be the absolute best recommendation I could make to you. It is the Bible for Assemblies of God and Church of God ministers and students. An absolutely fabulous resource.
I’m not at my desk right now, but if you’re willing I’ll make a few more recommendations tomorrow when I get into the office.
Blessings,
Gary Osborne
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Thanks I appreciate it a ton. Please let me know, I'll be eager to hear your recommendations.
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Here are some of the resources I have in my "Pentecostal Theology" Collection. Note, I'm not listing all of them, but the ones that I'd call absolutely essential and legitimately Pentecostal in nature (as opposed to just Wesleyan-Holiness):
Acts: A Logion Press Commentary
Horton, S. M. (2001). Acts: A Logion Press Commentary. Logion Press.
Assemblies of God: Our 16 Doctrines: What We Believe
Bicket, Z. (2017). Assemblies of God: Our 16 Doctrines: What We Believe. Gospel Publishing House.
Assemblies of God: Our Distinctive Doctrine: The Baptism in the Holy Spirit
Dresselhaus, R. (2017). Assemblies of God: Our Distinctive Doctrine: The Baptism in the Holy Spirit. Gospel Publishing House.
Bible Doctrines: A Pentecostal Perspective
Menzies, W. W. (1993). Bible Doctrines: A Pentecostal Perspective (S. M. Horton, Ed.). Logion Press.
Bible Doctrines: Discover Profound Truths for Everyday Living
Nelson, P. C. (2009). Bible Doctrines: Discover Profound Truths for Everyday Living (Revised Edition). Gospel Publishing House.
Concerning Spiritual Gifts
Gee, D. (1980). Concerning Spiritual Gifts. Gospel Publishing House.
Empowered for Witness: The Spirit in Luke-Acts
Menzies, R. P. (2004). Empowered for witness : the Spirit in Luke-Acts. T&T Clark.
The Fruit of the Spirit
Gee, D. (2010). The Fruit of the Spirit (Revised Edition). Gospel Publishing House.
The Gifts of the Spirit
Horton, H. (1975). The Gifts of the Spirit. Gospel Publishing House; Radiant Books.
The Holy Spirit: A Pentecostal Perspective
Palma, A. D. (2001). The Holy Spirit: A Pentecostal Perspective. Logion Press; Gospel Publishing House.
I & II Corinthians: A Logion Press Commentary
Horton, S. M. (1999). I & II Corinthians: A Logion Press Commentary. Logion Press.
New Spirit-Filled Life Bible: Notes
Hayford, J. W., Chappell, P. G., Ulmer, K. C., Brown, J., Hayden, R., Huntzinger, J. D., & Matsdorf, G., eds. (2002). New Spirit-Filled Life Bible: Notes. Thomas Nelson Bibles.
The Shape of Pneumatology: Studies in the Doctrine of the Holy Spirit
McIntyre, J. (2004). The shape of pneumatology : studies in the doctrine of the Holy Spirit. T&T Clark.
The Spirit Himself
Riggs, R. M. (1977). The Spirit Himself. Gospel Publishing House.
Systematic Theology: Revised Edition
Horton, S. M., ed. (2007). Systematic Theology: Revised Edition. Logion Press.
They Spoke from God: A Survey of the Old Testament
Williams, W. C., & Horton, S. M., eds. (2003). They Spoke from God: A Survey of the Old Testament. Gospel Publishing House; Logion Press.
“What Meaneth This?”: A Pentecostal Answer to a Pentecostal Question
Brumback, C. (1947). “What Meaneth This?”: A Pentecostal Answer to A Pentecostal Question. Gospel Publishing House.
What the Bible Says about the Holy Spirit
Horton, S. M. (2005). What the Bible Says about the Holy Spirit. Gospel Publishing House.
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Wow Gary thanks so much. I've just added all these to my favorites as a reading list. I was only missing one out of all of those resources and it was in my cart before I read your comment, could you believe that? The only work that was on your list that I didn't have in my Library was Spirit Life notes, and I have: that, Fire Bible, and a commentary I've been wanting in my cart.
Also, would you happen to know if there's any advantage to me purchasing both of the Spirit Life Filled Bible notes (that are available in Logos, I think 1st ed and 3rd ed.) I currently have the 3rd ed. in my cart and it's about double the price of 1st ed.0 -
Frank Hodges said:
Wow Gary thanks so much. I've just added all these to my favorites as a reading list. I was only missing one out of all of those resources and it was in my cart before I read your comment, could you believe that? The only work that was on your list that I didn't have in my Library was Spirit Life notes, and I have: that, Fire Bible, and a commentary I've been wanting in my cart.
Also, would you happen to know if there's any advantage to me purchasing both of the Spirit Life Filled Bible notes (that are available in Logos, I think 1st ed and 3rd ed.) I currently have the 3rd ed. in my cart and it's about double the price of 1st ed.Incredible, Frank! I do believe the resources I've listed are among the very best of the best that Logos offers from the Pentecostal tradition. Wish they'd tap into the rich library that the A/G has (especially the Flowers library material which is a wealth of great information).
Logos should also try and secure another resource that competitors have offered for years now - "The Life in the Spirit NT Commentary".
In answer to your question about different editions of the "New Spirit-Filled Life" Study Notes, I'm just not sure. I have both but don't use them nearly as much as the "Fire Bible", which is my go-to. Sorry.
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Drats! from the title I thought I would finally have an opportunity to suggest some Catholic charismatic materials into the mix but the actual post dashed my hopes[:O]
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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MJ. Smith said:
Drats! from the title I thought I would finally have an opportunity to suggest some Catholic charismatic materials into the mix but the actual post dashed my hopes
For what it's worth, the mere mention of the existence of Catholic charismatic materials makes me really intrigued on the subject. I know very little about the nuances of Catholic theology (or really any non-protestant/ACELO theology). To be honest, I never knew the subject existed... I'll be eagerly awaiting these recommendations you speak of.
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I've not been involved myself in the Catholic charismatic crowd but my long-time parish had a retired priest continue to serve as a charismatic priest of a Black charismatic parish and the head of the Western Washington Catholic Charismatic Renewal was a long time parishioner. So I've been aware of them for fifty years or so.
As for starting points, where I would start is:
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The story of the early Catholic charismatic movement is given in Kevin and Dorothy Ranaghan’s Catholic Pentecostals (New York: Paulist Press, 1969). An intriguing historical- theological study of charisms in the early church is Kilian McDonnell and George Montague’s Christian Initiation and Baptism in the Holy Spirit: Evidence from the First Eight Centuries (Collegeville, Minn.: Liturgical Press, 1991).
Those who wish to delve deeper into the sources should consult the library guides written by Charles E. Jones and published by the Scarecrow Press in Metuchen, New Jersey. They are: A Guide to the Study of the Holiness Movement (1974); A Guide to the Study of the Pentecostal Movement, 2 vols. (1983); Black Holiness: A Guide to the Study of Black Participation in Wesleyan Perfectionistic and Glossolalic Pentecostal Movements (1987); and The Charismatic Movement: A Guide to the Study of Neo-Pentecostalism with an Emphasis on Anglo-American Sources, (1995). For official church documents relating to the renewal see Kilian McDonnell’s monumental Presence, Power, Praise, 3 vols. (New York: Paulist Press, 1980).
Vinson Synan, The Century of the Holy Spirit: 100 Years of Pentecostal and Charismatic Renewal, 1901–2001 (Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2001), 13.That book (Synan, Vinson. The Century of the Holy Spirit: 100 Years of Pentecostal and Charismatic Renewal, 1901–2001. Nashville: Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2001.) contains a full chapter on the Catholic movement.
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From Ralph Dell Colle et al., Perspectives on Spirit Baptism: Five Views (Nashville, TN: Broadman & Holman Publishers, 2004).
[quote]For some informative early accounts of the Catholic Charismatic movement by participants, see Edward D. O’Connor, CSC, The Pentecostal Movement in the Catholic Church (Notre Dame, Ind.: Ave Maria, 1971) and Kevin and Dorothy Ranaghan, Catholic Pentecostals (New York: Paulist, 1969).
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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