Apple Vision Pro

I sent this to a Logos employee (not Bob) still there way back on 11/10/2020:

"Here’s a theological technological thought... I’ve searched briefly online but haven’t Seen anything. With AR glasses rumored from Apple in the next year or two, what impact could that have on pastor sermon manuscripts? Think preaching mode from logos integrated into the lens so that instead of looking down at your iPad for notes, your words scroll across your lens as you look at the congregation."

Since it was private and he works there, I won’t share his reply (and as far as I know he wouldnt be in the place of making those decisions or designing anything hardware or software) but he wasnt of the opinion that a glasses software platform should simply be ignored.

But personally speaking I think someone inside Logos should at least have this on their radar. It may be years before they reach the weight and size and "normal lookingness" to be something you could wear in public, but that day will likely come. Apple made a Mac, people eventually bought it. Apple made an iPod and people eventually bought it, Apple made a phone and people eventually bought it, Apple made a tablet and people eventually bought it… and I don’t think this platform will be any different.

Give it enough time and the weight and size will come down, the battery life will go up, the power and speed will doubling and the the price will keep half-ing. And when that happens I hope that the software that I have given enough money to that would replace my 300k miles falling apart truck has a team of developers getting something ready

I need to work on my Reality Distortion Field skills

Why imho Vision Pro won't be a mainstream solution. I have gaming friends that would back this research conclusion up as well.

A Stanford study of extended use of headsets like Apple Vision Pro shows that users could encounter real-world aftereffects like depth perception issues or simulator sickness.

I think Apple Vision Pro will mirror your pc or a website.  Since logos is already on the web couldn't you use Apple Vision Pro with multiple monitors?  

How stable is the beta app? I work in tech (solutions architect), so I’ve considered testing it. But as mentioned above, mobile has become far more powerful. I can do about 90-95% of what I need to day to day on my iPad (and do). The only time I use desktop lately is for academic papers and the finer points of research for them. I suppose I could have both installed since the beta goes through TestFlight, right?

There isn't a native iPadOS app either I think, to give a desktop experience vs a cell-phone iOS experience.

There isn't a native iPadOS app either I think, to give a desktop experience vs a cell-phone iOS experience.

It doesn’t give the full desktop experience*** but it is dif than the iPhone app, mainly in layout functionality. Even the phone app has gotten powerful. A handful of years ago, it was pretty much only good for reading a book or resource.

I love not having to get my MacBook to do everything. I prob use the iPad too much now. I have to do camp logos again for desktop. I haven’t done a full training since vs 6. I did the full camp logos mobile for logos 10. I need to make time this week to just push through the desktop vs. it’s changed significantly in recent years.

Bryan Nicholson said:

Maybe an interactive study environment, library, church.

Do you foresee Worship musicians or Preachers adopting first?

Bryan Nicholson said:

As far as preaching goes, I find Logos to be more useful in preparing to preach than actually preaching

I concur. it is a tool.

Bryan Nicholson said:

As far as the iPad comment. I see them more often at churches in America than I don’t at this point.

this is assuredly different for various traditions (liturgical High Church vs. Free Church) and culture (Urban, Suburban, Rural)

Bryan Nicholson said:

A physical Bible and piece of paper isn’t more holy than an iPad with a Bible and a notebook

no claim has been made about a "holiness factor". I have BOTH a tablet AND dead tree with me for redundancy each week. I have had paper pages blown by a fan causing chaos, and I've had electronics fail during preaching. Through experience I have increased confidence in electronic formats stored on my device (PDF) over those requiring web access or networking (I use local wi-fi connection from my tablet to our Proclaim presentation computer) but there have been times when a reboot of equipment was required during preaching and with dead tree I was able to keep going until the tech team got everything back up.

 (prepared each week, note: 8.5 x 11 is for tech team; binder, Bible & Proclaim Remote are in pulpit with me; mini is an "if all else fails".)

The betas are very stable on mobile.

The mobile app is very powerful.  

Anthony Jones said:

That’s just it though Logos is not concentrating on developing the mobile apps.its so so watered down. If I wanted to just use my iPad I can’t because of the crippled functionality . 

I didn‘t use Logos for a few years and my library just sat there. When I enrolled in seminary officially and opened it back up, I had upgraded to vs 10 from maybe around 7 or 8ish. I know the last time I used the mobile app, it was primarily good as an e-reader. So I never used it. It’s come quite a long ways in a few years from there. These days, mobile devices are as powerful as computers were even 2-3 years ago. I’m going to hop on the mobile beta out of curiosity. Tue mobile app is significantly more powerful than it once was. The panes functionality on the iPad is great too.

On a different note. Rumor is, Apple is pushing to get a not-pro vs Apple Vision to market ASAP and its well underway, if rumors are true on pricing, it will be about $2k cheaper than the pro version. So the cost of an iPhone pro max. They’re also getting ready to launch the AVP globally it looks like from recent software updates.