Changing LORD to Yahweh
I just thought that I'd share how I'm using visual filters to reveal where יהוה (YHWH) is in the OT. I actually replace the text with Yahweh.
First create a new highlighting style (right click in the highlighting panel):
Then, create a Visual Filter (File Menu) and have it display your new style whenever יהוה is in the text (This will look in the reverse interlinear):
The text of your Bible will now display like this:
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- the BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- "o lord" BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- "o" BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- יהוה
- ([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)
- "o" BEFORE 1-2 words יהוה
- the BEFORE 1 words יהוה
- יהוה
One filter finds all OT occurrences of "the Lord" in English and the second creates the insert for YHWH.
Except they don't always match, do they?
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One filter finds all OT occurrences of "the Lord" in English and the second creates the insert for YHWH.Except they don't always match, do they?
No that won't work 100% of the time:
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This is why it is important to tie it to YHWH instead of the Lord. I might miss this kind of thing without visual filters:
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I tried tying the filter to "the LORD" and it seems to be working and replacing "the" as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong:
This also seems to work for bibles that do not have a reverse interlinear.
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
I tried tying the filter to "the LORD" and it seems to be working and replacing "the" as well. Please correct me if I'm wrong:
This also seems to work for bibles that do not have a reverse interlinear.
Tom this would work if Yahweh was the underlying word behind every instance of "The Lord" in the OT. But it isn't. There are times when Yahweh is not translated: "The Lord". And there are times when "The Lord" didn't come from Yahweh (See my example from Is 6).
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Pastor/Elder, Grace Bible Church
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You could have so much fun with this if you got hold of an unsuspecting friends machine!
Haha! Wonderful. I really did laugh out loud at this.
Here's a string, which ought to work, but doesn't
(<Lemma = af/he/יהוה> ANDEQUALS Lord) AFTER 1 WORD the
It adds the "Yahweh" in twice - once for each word. Is that a bug?
It seems this is a pretty fundamental thing with how L4 handles searches. Any time you do a search like this where a term serves as a condition for another term (like using the NEAR or WITHIN X WORDS keywords) the results include both terms (effectively double-counting the actual instances that fulfill the condition). Another way of saying it is that it's reversible with no term being primary and the other just a secondary condition. So
returns the same results as
(<Lemma = af/he/יהוה> ANDEQUALS Lord) AFTER 1 WORD the
even though in the first case I really only want it to pick out "the" and not "Lord" and in the second case I really only want it to pick out "Lord" and not "the". I agree that it should be fixed but I think it could take some work to get the parsing engine to figure out which search term is the "primary" one that you are actually looking for as opposed to the secondary conditions you put on it.
The result is that any filter that uses a condition will highlight both the primary term and the condition.
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The solution is particularly helpful (time saving) for English Bibles that do not distinguish between the translations of YHWH and adonai (such as, inexplicably in my books, the NKJV).
Jacob, I love the filder for doulos (= slave instead of servant). Wished I could do this in my print Bible!
The other one I have often wished for but might be trickier to implement even in Logos 4 is to signal which second person pronouns (you) are singular and which are plural and to do so in a way that is not visually excessive (or perhaps the focus should be on verbs, not pronouns). Considering how the initial idea was even improved in this thread, perhaps the collective wisdom can come up with a wonderful idea for this too?
Thanks again, Jacob, Todd and others for sharing.
Blessings,
Francis
Jacob-
That is really cool - good job. I plan on doing this.
Do you think you could get the article "the" in the visual filter so that the passage reads Yahweh instead of the Yahweh?
Regards,
Anthony
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Jacob-
That is really cool - good job. I plan on doing this.
Do you think you could get the article "the" in the visual filter so that the passage reads Yahweh instead of the Yahweh?
Regards,
Anthony
I think that this is on Logos' end. They don't lump the article "The" in with LORD even though THE LORD is their translation from YHWH
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Pretty cool.
However, I find that it does mess up the LHI. So in the LHI I unselected the visual filter that included that entry and all returned to normal. The AFAT (Andersen-Forbes) does this too. My version of the BHS doesn't have an issue. I don't know if any other Hebrew texts would be affected.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
So in the LHI I unselected the visual filter that included that entry and all returned to normal.
It would probably be more efficient to apply the visual filter search just to a collection of English Bibles.
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It would probably be more efficient to apply the visual filter search just to a collection of English Bibles.
Or at least non-original language Bibles. The filter also works in the one Spanish reverse interlinear (RVR60) as well (though it uses Jehová - reducing the need for the identifier). As far as I know, the RVR60 is the only reverse interlinear in a language other than English.
Help links: WIKI; Logos 6 FAQ. (Phil. 2:14, NIV)
Hi Jacob,
Super! Thanks for sharing this!
Charlene
I just thought that I'd share how I'm using visual filters to reveal where יהוה (YHWH) is in the OT. I actually replace the text with Yahweh.
Is it possible to insert יהוה instead of Yahweh? I tried this, but Logos 4 crashed.
Charlene
I got it to work. Could you post logs from the crash?
http://wiki.logos.com/Diagnostic_Logging
http://wiki.logos.com/Uploading_Logs
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I got it to work. Could you post logs from the crash?
Hi Kevin,
Glad to know that it works...will have to work on this later, however, as I fly international tomorrow and I have some things I need to do. Thanks for the help!
Charlene
I seem to be having a problem finding the custom highlight I just created called Elohim (see pic). It is not showing up in the list. Can anyone help?
Is there any way to use the Strong's numbers in the search criteria (left) side of the Visual Filter? If so, can someone please provide an example of how to do this.
Use this syntax <GreekStrongs = #1345> or <HebrewStrongs = #3124>
Prov. 15:23
I thought I would revive this thread (it's one of my favorites..) with a problem I found today. I was thrilled to figure out here how to replace LORD with Yahweh. Today I was in 2 Sam 7:18-29 (ESV) and found that this visual filter doesn't quite work here. (It words with Yahweh by itself, but not when Yahweh is with another title.) I have been working with visual filters lately to try to figure them out. My first question is: why in verse 18, e.g., does the visual filter not white out the superscript "God" here like it does when it encounters Yahweh in the Hebrew?
Secondly, do you know how the visual filters will behave when, for example in this passage, one visual filter will try to replace "the LORD" with Yahweh, while another one will try to replace Lord GOD with with Adonai Yahweh? (Both dealing with יהוה ) I haven't gotten quite that far into it and was just wondering...
Has anyone tried replacing other names of God in other instances such as this, besides just the occurances of "the LORD" for Yahweh?
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
I thought I would revive this thread (it's one of my favorites..) with a problem I found today. I was thrilled to figure out here how to replace LORD with Yahweh. Today I was in 2 Sam 7:18-29 (ESV) and found that this visual filter doesn't quite work here. (It words with Yahweh by itself, but not when Yahweh is with another title.) I have been working with visual filters lately to try to figure them out. My first question is: why in verse 18, e.g., does the visual filter not white out the superscript "God" here like it does when it encounters Yahweh in the Hebrew?
Secondly, do you know how the visual filters will behave when, for example in this passage, one visual filter will try to replace "the LORD" with Yahweh, while another one will try to replace Lord GOD with with Adonai Yahweh? (Both dealing with יהוה ) I haven't gotten quite that far into it and was just wondering...
Has anyone tried replacing other names of God in other instances such as this, besides just the occurances of "the LORD" for Yahweh?
I've updated my filter to deal with the O Lord GOD situation (Where GOD is the Yahweh equivalent instead of LORD), plus the case for "O LORD" which is in verse 25 of that same passage, and I've added an Adonai filter too, which required me to use the lemma.
The value for each entry is:
The first three get the white highlight.
If you don't want the Adonai filter, then a line still needs to be added to the original filter to handle the "O"s. It should be set to the white highlight:
BTW, I also noticed an odd discrepancy (which doesn't affect the filter): verse 22 has "O LORD God" (with LORD in caps) whereas all the other verses in the passage have "O Lord GOD" (with GOD in caps), but the underlying Hebrew is the same.
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Here is a screen shot of how I did it. Click on it to enlarge.
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I tried duplicating these filters to no avail. is it possible to also get a look at the highlight setups? the only one that ever works is the original YHWH to Lord highlight filter example.
Could you explain the three different "Elohim" you used and how they were created? Thank You for your time.
Thanks for the solution. For some reason, I tried typing out the line "([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)" , but couldn't get it to work. I finally copied and pasted it and it worked. Is there anywhere that anyone knows of (wiki, etc.) that has a little more information on different commands to use in cases like this? e.g. BEFORE, AND etc. I was wondering how you came up with the line above or if it was generated somewhere in L4 for you. ???
I found the listing in the wiki for the command line commands, but not any of the switches like what was used here or in rules for collections and such.
Thanks again.
"It seems our problems solve themselves when we look beyond us to those truly in hell." - Beyond Our Suffering - AILD
Is there anywhere that anyone knows of (wiki, etc.) that has a little more information on different commands to use in cases like this? e.g. BEFORE, AND etc.
http://wiki.logos.com/Search_HELP
I was wondering how you came up with the line above or if it was generated somewhere in L4 for you. ???
If you enter lemma:אדן:1 into a Morph search, and then change the search type to Bible, it changes the syntax to this: ([field bible, content] <lemma = af/he/אדן:1>)
It can actually be shortened to <Lemma = af/he/אדן:1>.
Another way to get it is to click on the word in a Bible, and select the Lemma tab in the menu, and click on Search this resource.
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So I tried doing this with Adonia but the filter doesn't seem to work. Here are my setups. I thank you in advance for your help.
highlight
Here is my filter.
Ideally I would like to combine the YHWH with Adonia filters but will settle for two separate filters. Again, thanks for your help.
So not sure why my screen shots did not show up.
another attempt at including screen shots.
filter
Highlight
Regarding screen shots, make certain you attach (via the paperclip) the image file instead of pasting into the forum editor.
There reason why your adonai filter doesn't work is because the morph scheme for the reverse interlinears differentiates between different occurrences of adonai. Right click on an occurrence of adonai.
So, that's why a the simple adn search doesn't work. To get the term that will work do this
Prov. 15:23
Thanks for your assistance, it did the trick.
This is worthy of a blog entry and/or a wiki entry. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks.
This technique obviously could be used to do this for any word. Differentiation among the greek words for love could be a good use too.
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How would you set this up?
Emery,
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did a step by step in this post How is this done? Custom Style? which shows setting up the highlighting style.
After creating a highlighting style, you will need to setup a Visual Filter to use this highlighting style (see the 2nd image on Jacob's original post)
Edit: if you need help with setting up the Visual Filter part, let me know.
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