Help - How to turn off Reverse Interlinear Pane

xnman
xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

I know I am missing something but for the life of me I cannot find how to turn off the "Reverse Interlinear Pane" (see insert) and only have it appear when I want it....  I click on #1 to view the Hebrew or Greek... but the RIP (#2) always pops up also. Is there a way to do this without having to do it every I show the Greek or Hebrew version?   

I would like to turn it off permanently and only use in when I so choose. Thanks.

15-03-2024-10-30-00

What I would like to see is the following and then choose "Reverse Interlinear Pane" if I want it.

15-03-2024-10-33-04

xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

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  • NB.Mick
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  • Sam Shelton
    Sam Shelton Member Posts: 339

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  • Sam Shelton
    Sam Shelton Member Posts: 339

    Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14 

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    Ok... My apologies for not being clearer... let me explain...

    I do "turn off Reverse Interlinear Pane" as you all describe.... and that works... then I "update my layout" so that is saved. 

    Then I close Logos... and re-open. And guess what?  If I click on the Greek symbol.... I get the "Reversed Interlinear Pane" again. 

    Is there any way to turn off the "Reversed Interlinear Pane" until I want it? 

    Thanks  and sorry about not being more clear.

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • MJ. Smith
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  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    Then I close Logos... and re-open. And guess what?  If I click on the Greek symbol.... I get the "Reversed Interlinear Pane" again. 

    Is there any way to turn off the "Reversed Interlinear Pane" until I want it? 

    Why do you save the layout and then restart Logos only to click the Greek symbol when you don't want it! Why not wait until you want it?

    The layout will be saved prior to exit with the Program Setting At startup Open to: Most recent layout - local.

    --> OK, if I ensure that both Interlinears are turned off, save the layout, then Close All Panels and re-open the layout:

    • both interlinears are OFF when I click the drop-arrow next to the Greek symbol; but
    • the inline Interlinear is ON when I click the Greek symbol!

    Something not right, but you can avoid opening the interlinear (select the appropriate one when ready).

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • Sam Shelton
    Sam Shelton Member Posts: 339

    I have always seen the Bible Language icon  as an on/off button for the reverse interlinear, defaulting to “inline” (I think). The selection arrow allows you to change the default to “pane” or both inline and pane. Therefore, if you turn the interlinear “on” by pressing the button, the interlinear is shown – either with the system default, or the default you have set.

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  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    Then I close Logos... and re-open. And guess what?  If I click on the Greek symbol.... I get the "Reversed Interlinear Pane" again. 

    Is there any way to turn off the "Reversed Interlinear Pane" until I want it? 

    Why do you save the layout and then restart Logos only to click the Greek symbol when you don't want it! Why not wait until you want it?

    The layout will be saved prior to exit with the Program Setting At startup Open to: Most recent layout - local.

    --> OK, if I ensure that both Interlinears are turned off, save the layout, then Close All Panels and re-open the layout:

    • both interlinears are OFF when I click the drop-arrow next to the Greek symbol; but
    • the inline Interlinear is ON when I click the Greek symbol!

    Something not right, but you can avoid opening the interlinear (select the appropriate one when ready).

    I did it to show that the "Reverse Interlinear Pane" does not stay off after I uncheck it. No matter what I do.... if I click on the Greek Icon... I always get the "Reverse Interlinear Pane" also. 

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Sam Shelton
    Sam Shelton Member Posts: 339

    xnman,

    Are you saying that if you:

    1. Choose Interlinear Options (click Down arrow ˅ next to Interlinear icon ).
    2. Clear both “Inline Reverse Interlinear” and “Reverse Interlinear Pane” main options.
    3. Choose Interlinear Options again (click Down arrow ˅ next to Interlinear icon ) to close.
    4. Click Interlinear icon  to turn on interlinear.

     

    — The interlinear opens in “Pane” mode instead of “Inline” mode?

    If so, have you checked to see if other translations have the same issue for you?

    Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14 

  • Sam Shelton
    Sam Shelton Member Posts: 339

    Also, have you checked to see if you have a second copy of the NKJV open as well in that same layout? The second copy may be overriding the default you are attempting to change on the first copy.

    Above all these things, walk in love, which is the bond of perfection. - Colossians 3:14 

  • Dave Hooton
    Dave Hooton Member, MVP Posts: 35,672 ✭✭✭

    I did it to show that the "Reverse Interlinear Pane" does not stay off after I uncheck it. No matter what I do.... if I click on the Greek Icon... I always get the "Reverse Interlinear Pane" also. 

    I did sense what you were trying to demonstrate, bur it is not displayed when you restart and it is switched "off" in the drop-down! Just avoid clicking the Greek icon until you are ready for it.

    Dave
    ===

    Windows 11 & Android 13

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone. I guess I am unique in this. lol

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭

    Thanks everyone. I guess I am unique in this. lol

    Nope. I'm having the same problem. It keeps coming back. To add insult to injury, if I have my Bible pane too narrow, the little arrow divot by the Aleph-Omega doesn't show, so I have to widen the pane to be able to access it and turn it off.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm having the same problem. It keeps coming back.

    Is it coming back in a layout or in the resource pane? i.e. just when you open a particular layout or every time you open the Bible anywhere?

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • Sean
    Sean Member Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭

    I'm having the same problem. It keeps coming back.

    Is it coming back in a layout or in the resource pane? i.e. just when you open a particular layout or every time you open the Bible anywhere?

    Okay, I think I just figured it out:

    1. I turned it off in one layout and updated the layout.
    2. I opened another layout where the same Bible is there with the option set to show the reverse interlinear pane--but the interlinear Aleph-Omega button is toggled off.
    3. The setting for that Bible from layout #2 persists when I open #1 again.

    So, turning it off in #2 and updating that layout fixed it reopening automatically in #1. I think.

  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • xnman
    xnman Member Posts: 2,779 ✭✭✭

    Thanks Sean.  I have played with it too much can't seem to turn Reverse Interlinear Pane off.. What you seem to be saying... is that if it is on in any layout, then it will be on in every layout.  Is that what you are saying?

    I have 8 layouts that I work with. I will go through them all and turn Reverse Interlinear Pane off.... I'm not sure it will help though.

    Edit:  I went through all my layouts, turned off Reverse Interlinear Pane, saved the layout. 

    And still the RIP persists. I think it needs a "Logos fix"...  [8-|]

    xn = Christan  man=man -- Acts 11:26 "....and the disciples were first called Christians in Antioch".

    Barney Fife is my hero! He only uses an abacus with 14 rows!