BUG: Personal Book Builder

Jack Caviness
Jack Caviness Member, MVP Posts: 13,488 ✭✭✭
edited November 21 in English Forum

The Personal Book Builder does not respect MS Words Outline Numbering. See Troubleshooting a personal-book building problem. This is a long-term frustration with Logos and Personal Books.

We had many wonderful promises years ago concerning PBs that have never materialized.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith Member, MVP Posts: 53,066 ✭✭✭✭✭

    bump 4

    Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."

  • David Ames
    David Ames Member Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭

    We had many wonderful promises years ago concerning PBs that have never materialized.

    https://community.logos.com/forums/p/126859/848584.aspx#848584  

    Me thinks that they regret ever offering PBs.  They see it as cutting into sales as they plan to release every work on scripture and WE are seen as inputting too many of the ones they want to produce from files found for free on the internet.  [[it is going to take them about 2000 years to release them all but they don't want us to PB them even though they are not going to release them in our lifetime.]]  They saw PB as being a way to enter our own sermons [one that we wrote].  And now that they have sermon builder they see no need for PBs.  Except that the works we want now are not the ones they want now.  There is a popular version of the Bible called "The Scriptures 2009". Logos does not have the correct mix of customers to pay the pre-pub price to get it into production.  So they are going to drop it. I have entered about 300 PBs and not one of them is a resource that Logos is going to release in the next 20 years.  

  • Mike Childs
    Mike Childs Member Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭

    "Me thinks that they regret ever offering PBs."  Indeed, that is the feeling I also get.  I don't think they are correct if they feel personal books cost them sales.  For example, I made a personal book of Martyn Lloyd Jones' "Studies on the Sermon on the Mount".  But I immediately purchased the Logos version when it became available.  That has been my practice with many personal books.  Personal books are never the equal to a Logos produced resource because of tagging and quality.

    Personal books, if properly promoted by Logos, could attract customers.  Personal books relieve customer frustration when they greatly desire a resource that Logos is not able to produce.  That is particularly true with resources that do not have broad enough appeal to be profitable.


    "In all cases, the Church is to be judged by the Scripture, not the Scripture by the Church," John Wesley

  • Robert Kelbe
    Robert Kelbe Member Posts: 585 ✭✭✭

    Running into this same problem, unfortunately. Spent many hours over the course of several months formatting our denominational constitution for Logos, 225 pages in Microsoft Word, only to find out Logos doesn't recognize the Word outlines, which are vital for navigating this document... 

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,842 ✭✭✭

    Spent many hours over the course of several months formatting our denominational constitution for Logos, 225 pages in Microsoft Word, only to find out Logos doesn't recognize the Word outlines

    You sure it's really the same problem? Because in the OP and the referenced thread it's Word outline numbering that's not recognized, the outline itself is (noting that the Word outline feature assumes headings and the problem from back then was seen when using this to structure the text itself).

    Can you share the document or a relevant portion of it?

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Robert Kelbe
    Robert Kelbe Member Posts: 585 ✭✭✭

    Spent many hours over the course of several months formatting our denominational constitution for Logos, 225 pages in Microsoft Word, only to find out Logos doesn't recognize the Word outlines

    You sure it's really the same problem? Because in the OP and the referenced thread it's Word outline numbering that's not recognized, the outline itself is (noting that the Word outline feature assumes headings and the problem from back then was seen when using this to structure the text itself).

    Can you share the document or a relevant portion of it?

    Perhaps I didn't explain it well, but it is the numbering which is not recognized (numbers which are vital for using the document, as someone will refer to III.B.3, for example!). 

  • NB.Mick
    NB.Mick Member, MVP Posts: 15,842 ✭✭✭

    Actually your screenshots looks quite different to the problem from years ago, and like the subsections were not formatted with a Heading style. It might be helpful to share a PB source document to see how to help you.

    Have joy in the Lord! Smile

  • Robert Kelbe
    Robert Kelbe Member Posts: 585 ✭✭✭

    I'm not quite sure why you think my problem is quite different from the problem in the OP. To recreate it, simply use the built-in outline formatting in Word.

    Here is the OP, where the outline numbering is lost:

    Here is my issue, where the outline numbering is lost: