WORDsearch: New Computer Installation Guide

I installed Wordsearch on a new computer and after 30 days it's asking for me to login.  I can't seem to bypass this.  I've deleted and reinstalled and it still goes straight to sign in.  I've tried the above steps and that doesn't help either.

Please help me,

Thanks

 you have an old install, copy C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Wordsearch 12 and C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch\Global Data\LocalLogins.db3

If you don't, try this:

The login info is stored in C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch\Global Data\LocalLogins.db3

The file can be viewed/edited with sqlitebrowser.org

Fill in the user ID with a 5 digit number 12345

Add user@email.com in the email fields

Folder name was my name as firstlast  

Also add the USER ID as ActiveUserID=12345  in C:\Users\USER\AppData\Local\Wordsearch 12

That worked for me.

I do not have OneDrive on my computer.

The following section is not on my computer:

C:\Users\Grace Gems\OneDrive\Documents\WORDsearch\

Any Suggestions???

I must have WordSearch on my new computer!

Thank you SO much!!

Jeff

Bill Fritz said:

WORDsearch: New Computer Installation Guide

Install WORDsearch (12) for the first time on a new machine.

On your old machine:

Open File Explorer and copy all these directories to a thumb drive.

Find where you installed WORDsearch, the default directory is:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Wordsearch 12\

Also copy the information in these directories to your thumb drive:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Wordsearch 12\

C:\Users\username\OneDrive\Documents\WORDsearch\

NOTE: be sure to name the directories by the right name  so you can copy them to the right “new” directory.

On your old machine:

Start WORDsearch and go to: WORDsearch Options\Backup

Save your Backup to the thumb drive.

 

On your new computer:

Copy/paste all of the above directories to the same directories on your new computer.

NOTE: (do this last)

On your new machine:

Start WORDsearch and go to:

WORDsearch Options\Restore (select the Backup directory on the thumb drive).

Last: Go to WORDsearch Desktops and select the desktop of your choice.

Everything should work like it did on your old machine.

Hi Mike
I am in my seventies, and have had WS since my first computer in 1997. Using it was always very simple. And I use it for hours every day.

With Logos everything is very difficult and complicated--from comparing verses in different translations, to even copying a verse (it is hard to select verses at once, and then I have to format the verse after I paste it, etc.)

I am getting a new computer tomorrow, and need Wordsearch for my ministry of editing choice puritan books into modern English.

By His grace,
Jeff

JEFF said:

editing choice puritan books into modern English

A most important ministry!!

Jeff, I will pray for your success in installing WORDsearch on your new computer.

Check this for help, Marlene!

Reinstalling W/S 

Leslie Walper | Forum Activity | Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:10 AM

I was having some operating system issues and decided to reset my Win10 OS. In the process I also switched to a new SSD drive. I have installed W/S 10 but have no access to the book libraries I was using on the old drive. Is there any way to retrieve the book libraries from the old hard drive? I can still read the data on the old drive, that's no problem, but where are the library repositories located on the drive and can they be retrieved/reinstalled on my new drive?

Leslie Walper | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon Nov 29, 2021 2:11 PM

So, I have located the book repositories and have reinstalled/indexed, and whatever W/S wants to do with the files, but the program wants to be "registered" and I suppose, that may be a problem since there is no longer any access to the online W/S user database. It's no doubt just a setting in the windows registry -- changing a 0 to a 1 someplace. Can anyone help me with this?

John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri Dec 3, 2021 7:57 PM

I looked at my files, and it may be this. I had one Windows profile with WORDsearch logged in, and one without. The ActiveUserID was blank on the one not logged in.

C:\Users\[USER]\AppData\Local\Wordsearch 12\Wordsearch 12.ini

ActiveUserID= Needs 5 digit number

John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Dec 4, 2021 9:51 AM

It looks like the data associated with the ActiveUserID is stored in

C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch\Global Data\LocalLogins.db3

Allen Wayne | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu Dec 9, 2021 11:55 AM

Reinstalling Wordsearch to another PC.

If anyone needs help reinstalling Wordsearch on another PC...I fumbled my way through it but have figured out a way to do it. Doing this there's no need to log in with the software as it's no longer supported so maybe this will help.

I have Wordsearch on my laptop and have switched to another laptop. I have Logos installed on the new laptop but Logos feels so clunky to me. So, I had the Wordsearch install file in my download folder. I installed it but then the challenge became it couldn't register Wordsearch  as it is no longer supported. But neither were my books installed. So I did a little reading online and came across something that got me to think about where the library of books are installed within the Wordsearch folders. There's a few Wordsearch folders in different locations on the "C" drive. I finally found the library folder and copied the content of that folder from my original pc to the destination pc. The library is installed in a a hidden folder. 

Go to the "C" drive and  click the view tab at the top to make all hidden folders viewable. There will be a folder called "Program Data." In the program data folder there is a Wordsearch folder. In this folder there's two folders you'll need to copy the contents of and paste them into the destinations pc. I had to copy contents of the folders called "Global Data" and "Library." Once inside each of these folders I copied all the files within those folders to the same folders in the destination pc.

Once I did that I could see the books in my library but didn't have the permissions needed to see and use these books. In Wordsearch there's a tab called "Tools" and that brings up a window that says "Manage Library" and "My Library List." At first, I only copied the contents in the "Library" folder and my books were there but they were still locked and I couldn't use them. So, I thought well, what it I copy the contents of  the "Global Data" folder and see what happens. Then I restated my Wordsearch program after that and voila....my books were all there and I could open them.

Hope this doesn't sound too complicated but I'll try to give a description of what I did. I hope it will work for you as it did for me.

The location of the Program Data folder is C: > Program Data > Wordsearch > then you'll find the Global Data and Library folders. Once inside the folder you can click on one of them and hit the <ctrl> key and the the letter "A" key at the same time and it will highlight all the files. Right click to copy those files onto a thumb drive or and external drive to paste them into the same folder destination on the new pc.

This may sound confusing as I'm trying to type fast and finish my lunch break at work. Hope this a help.

Allen

 Leslie Walper | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:50 PM

OK!! John. Thanks!!! That did it. Purrrfect.

 Leslie Walper | Forum Activity | Replied: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:53 PM

OK, thanks John—that's just the ticket. I copied that whole folder over to the new drive and everything works. Purrrfect.

Charlie Ferrell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:20 AM

WORDsearch Bible Software Users Group sharing info on re-installing WS on a new computer without any help from Logos. 

Charlie Ferrell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:22 AM

I also stumbled my way basically doing what you say here... it works.. share your thoughts on the FB group if you like..WORDsearch Bible Software Users Group

Charlie Ferrell | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Feb 19, 2022 9:23 AM

WORDsearch Bible Software Users Group .... yes it does... sharing WS tips and ideas for those wanting to keep WS going...

Bobbie Harris | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu Apr 28, 2022 6:20 AM

I am in the process of buying an Apple laptop. Presently I have an Hp with Widows 11. Would this method work on Apple's operating system?

Keep Smiling 4 Jesus  | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:09 AM

 Bobbie Harris:

I am in the process of buying an Apple laptop. Presently I have an Hp with Widows 11. Would this method work on Apple's operating system?

Welcome 

Out of the box = No because Apple's operating system is an open source BSD variant (Darwin), which does not have a C: drive.

Options on macOS are:

• Running a Windows virtual machine: e.g. Parallels, Virtual Box, VMware
• Configuring WINE on macOS
• Using remote desktop on macOS to use Wordsearch on a Windows computer

John Fidel | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu Apr 28, 2022 8:40 AM

Greeting,

In addition to the advise above, if you are purchasing a Laptop with an M1 chip, which is highly recommended so your Mac is not obsolete out of the box, then I know of no way to install WS on the Mac unless you can find an emulator that works with a non-intel chip.

Bobbie Harris | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu May 5, 2022 3:52 AM

Thanks,

I will be buying a laptop with the M1 chip. How do I install Wordsearch from my windows 11 OS?   Bobbie

Mike Binks | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu May 5, 2022 6:25 AM

 Bobbie Harris:

Thanks,

I will be buying a laptop with the M1 chip. How do I install Wordsearch from my windows 11 OS?   Bobbie

Keep smiling, I think, has answered your question.

Installing logos via an emulator is illogical. Emulators are notoriously processor and memory hogs and will eat up resources. Wordsearch really has no future and even if you go to all the trouble of getting it to work you will find yourself back to square one relatively soon.

In my opinion, unless you are a person of absolute leisure and little purpose, your time would be better spent getting to grips with Logos. That course of action would likely be easier on your pocket as well.

tootle pip

Mike

How to get logs and post them.   (now tagging post-apocalyptic fiction as current affairs)

Nathan Parker | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon Aug 8, 2022 6:36 PM

Intego.com has a website that mentions how to roll a Windows 11 VM on an Apple Silicon Mac if you need to, but since it’s not officially supported, and performance in VMs isn’t great, I recommend against it.

I also tried Wordsearch 12 on WINE/CrossOver once, and with the exception of the official Mac version that Lifeway put out (which no longer runs on modern Macs), it was a total mess.

My recommendation would be to move onto Logos if possible. I’ve been told Logos runs great on Apple Silicon using Rosetta, and eventually I’m sure Logos will port to being a native Apple Silicon app when development resources seem feasible to do so, and it’s going to be better supported on modern Macs long-term. Once I went back to a Mac as my daily driver, I tried Wordsearch on a Windows VM, but ended up tossing it and just running Logos (plus other supported Bible software apps). I’ve decided it’s time to let legacy go and move forward.

Nathan Parker

Rick Wade | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Sep 24, 2022 5:33 AM

I copied the Program Files and ProgramData folders in their entirety (with Global Data) and still I just get red ? by each book. The WS Read.me doc that addresses this says nothing about how to use the reinstall key. And when I did a backup from the other computer and tried to restore, it said there was no backup file.

Anyone got any other ideas? Thanks.

John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Sep 24, 2022 6:41 AM

The red ? means the book files are missing from the library folder. The files can no longer be downloaded from the Wordsearch servers.

On your old PC, the book files were usually in C:\ProgramData\Library

Rick Wade | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon Sep 26, 2022 2:16 PM

So you copied the contents of Global Data twice? After my setup, there is a Global Data older under ProgramData but there is no Library folder. That is under Program Files. 

John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Mon Sep 26, 2022 4:23 PM

Mine was in Program Data, but the location could be changed, so it might have been somewhere else on your PC.

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Randall Maranville | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun Oct 2, 2022 9:08 AM

I know your post is pretty old, but wondering if you have an additional ideas related to the need to register after a new install?

I have been able to reinstall Wordsearch 12 on a new laptop and used a backup from the older laptop that has a functioning Wordsearch. I have compared the Wordsearch12.ini, line by line and matched the characters from the older ini to the new one including matching the ActiveUserID.

However, my challenge is that when I open Wordsearch it is still requiring me to register, which we all know is not possible. "(30 days remaining to register) Sign in".  Any idea where I need to go to change the data related to registration???

John Simpson | Forum Activity | Replied: Sun Oct 2, 2022 11:29 AM

It looks like the data associated with the ActiveUserID is stored in

C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch\Global Data\LocalLogins.db3

Have you restored that?

Charlie Ferrell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:01 AM

WS can be installed on a new computer if you have a working install on another computer. You will need a WS set-up file and the data folder from the existing WS install. 

found in. C:\ProgramData\WORDsearch ... (Windows File Explorer) This is the folder where all of your book data is stored. After running the WS setup file, just delete that folder in the fresh install and copy that folder from the already working install in there. I don't think this is necessary, but I also copied the WORDsearch folder in the program files directory form the old install as well after deleting it out. Everything works fine except for one feature. All of my books show up in the Library view and can be opened from there. When you go to the study view, the unlock feature in the upper left corner doesn't work, so books cannot be opened from the study view. But they all can be opened, like I said from the Library view. My fresh install on my new laptop, 2/18/22, using this method is working perfectly. GOOD Luck! And God Bless! ........... Join our WORDsearch Bible Software Users group on FB!

Charlie Ferrell | Forum Activity | Replied: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:04 AM

Thanks for the info... Join our WORDsearch Bible Software Users group on FB and share your tips an tricks!

God Bless!

Bill Fritz | Forum Activity | Replied: Thu Nov 17, 2022 7:15 AM

WORDsearch: New Computer Installation Guide

Install WORDsearch (12) for the first time on a new machine.

On your old machine:

Open File Explorer and copy all these directories to a thumb drive.

Find where you installed WORDsearch, the default directory is:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Wordsearch 12\

Also copy the information in these directories to your thumb drive:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Wordsearch 12\

C:\Users\username\OneDrive\Documents\WORDsearch\

NOTE: be sure to name the directories by the right name  so you can copy them to the right “new” directory.

On your old machine:

Start WORDsearch and go to: WORDsearch Options\Backup

Save your Backup to the thumb drive.

On your new computer:

Copy/paste all of the above directories to the same directories on your new computer.

NOTE: (do this last)

On your new machine:

Start WORDsearch and go to:

WORDsearch Options\Restore (select the Backup directory on the thumb drive).

Last: Go to WORDsearch Desktops and select the desktop of your choice.

Everything should work like it did on your old machine.

SMStone | Forum Activity | Replied: Sat Jan 21, 2023 3:56 PM

Pastor Allen Wayne,

Thank you for posting how you got WordSearch functioning on another computer. I followed your instructions AFTER having only first copied the Library folder to my other computer. When I copied the Global Data folder, things started up with critical locked books UNLOCKED! I was particularly interested in my interlinear bibles.

Stephen M. Stone

Monroe, MI

And yes, I have been through the hours of training videos Logos offers.

Honestly, Logos is absolutely terrible compared to Wordsearch. It's as if Logos decided to make a worse piece of software. The GUI and functionality have gone backwards 10 steps. Really is sad.

I rather just have a wordsearch 12 download available even if you do not officially support it. The Logos GUI wastes so much space on screen and everything takes about 5 extra steps on Logos. 

I have Word Search Bible, version 12 and it still runs. No matter what Logon says, they cannot compare to what I have and it is still running great.

Logos wants over $1500 dollars for their top version. At age 80, I will not spend that kind of money. It is sad and Logos will not give us the ability to 

copy, which they should have from the get go.  I lose my 9 year old Desk Top, I lose Word Search and all  the good I have done over the last 15

years of my posting will disappear and they just do not care. Period. It's all about the money.

At my age, I would want to copy the entire Word Search Bible program. I paid  and have a very large program. 

I have Word Search for a very long time, back to 8, 9 and 10. I have a very old laptop and still has 9 and 10

if my desk top dies on me. I pray that those two will work for me one day. I have posted for over 15 years and 

I believe God has honored this effort.  In my opinion, Logos cannot compete with Word Search 12.

Actually now that I have WS 11 installed on my laptop, it opens but with none of my books showing.   I cannot change the Library book location OR the Documents location because WS says I must have Admin rights, which of course I have already.  Anyone else run into a problem with WS saying you don't have Admin rights when you really do?