Official: You Can Now Get Early Access to the Next Version of Logos
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I and others have pushed to get the "clock" extended to ensure we can answer that question before the end of the sale, and I'm hopeful that will happen.)
And the sale has been extended to 30 September!
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I and others have pushed to get the "clock" extended to ensure we can answer that question before the end of the sale, and I'm hopeful that will happen.)
And the sale has been extended to 30 September!
They could have given us more notice!
This was me:
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That's why natural language is the most powerful coding of all.
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(Which I know doesn't help at all with the "clock" ticking down – and I'm sorry about that. But that is the reality. I and others have pushed to get the "clock" extended to ensure we can answer that question before the end of the sale, and I'm hopeful that will happen.)
Well done Mark and team, that fought to get through the bureaucracy to get the sale extended - I hope that you're not limited by the same in getting the information out for users to make the educated decisions and purchase choices!
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14
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(Which I know doesn't help at all with the "clock" ticking down – and I'm sorry about that. But that is the reality. I and others have pushed to get the "clock" extended to ensure we can answer that question before the end of the sale, and I'm hopeful that will happen.)
Well done Mark and team, that fought to get through the bureaucracy to get the sale extended - I hope that you're not limited by the same in getting the information out for users to make the educated decisions and purchase choices!
Agreed! Thank you Mark and team for extending the sale a little longer so people can make clear decisions. On that note, if you can just give us all a steady cadence of information as things get clearer on the roadmap, everyone will benefit and there will definitely be less frustration. And you'll probably sleep better :-)
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Every single book I've purchased from Logos since Version 1.6 in 1995 is still in my library. Faithlife strikes me as a company that keeps its promises.
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Mark… your consistent model of grace to those who choose to post with an edge about them (and sometimes inaccurate conclusions) is an inspiration to me. Keep up the awesome work!
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I agree wholeheartedly!
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Thanks Stephen and Frank.
Really loving it so far Glory to God
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Thanks Stephen and Frank.
Really loving it so far Glory to God
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Thanks Stephen and Frank.
Really loving it so far Glory to God
Glad you are enjoying it!
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14
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Well, I hope you've taken stock of what I've had to say so far, sir.
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On that note, if you can just give us all a steady cadence of information as things get clearer on the roadmap, everyone will benefit and there will definitely be less frustration.
Yes, that's the plan. We know you guys are eager for more, so we hope you won't have to wait as long for the next update.
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Logos website has the "rentals" page: https://www.logos.com/rentals
where you can rent some resources and collections, and the cost of a monthly rental is between 2% and 3% of the full collection price.
For example, the Charles Spurgeon Collection costs $784.99, while a monthly rental of this collection costs $15.95, which is 2% of the cost of the full collection.
Unfortunately, the list of resources/collections on the "rentals" page is quite small.I think that that adding the possibility to rent essentially any resources or collections aligns well with the upcoming shift to the subscription-based model.
The possibility to rent any resources or even large collections and legacy libraries will make the subscription much more attractive to the Logos users,
especially if this possibility will be available only to the current subscribers.
Some users could use this possibility to try the resources and collections before committing to a permanent purchase.
Others will find it more affordable to rent any resources for a limited time while they need them for their study.
As far as I understand, the subscription tiers are going to offer some predefined sets of books, which for some users who already own (some of) these resources may not be very valuable.
So, if the subscribers will be able to rent any other books or collections (of course, at an additional cost), this would make the subscription really attractive.0 -
Logos website has the "rentals" page: https://www.logos.com/rentals
where you can rent some resources and collections, and the cost of a monthly rental is between 2% and 3% of the full collection price.
For example, the Charles Spurgeon Collection costs $784.99, while a monthly rental of this collection costs $15.95, which is 2% of the cost of the full collection.
Unfortunately, the list of resources/collections on the "rentals" page is quite small.I think that that adding the possibility to rent essentially any resources or collections aligns well with the upcoming shift to the subscription-based model.
The possibility to rent any resources or even large collections and legacy libraries will make the subscription much more attractive to the Logos users,
especially if this possibility will be available only to the current subscribers.
Some users could use this possibility to try the resources and collections before committing to a permanent purchase.
Others will find it more affordable to rent any resources for a limited time while they need them for their study.
As far as I understand, the subscription tiers are going to offer some predefined sets of books, which for some users who already own (some of) these resources may not be very valuable.
So, if the subscribers will be able to rent any other books or collections (of course, at an additional cost), this would make the subscription really attractive.This sounds like something very helpful for many, but I want to add that my biggest fear is that everything will eventually go this direction with a subscription base model.
So by all means, do something like this gentleman suggested for people who desire it, but I beg of you, keep the ability to buy packages and books in the same way that currently exists.
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So by all means, do something like this gentleman suggested for people who desire it, but I beg of you, keep the ability to buy packages and books in the same way that currently exists.
Of course, the ability to buy packages and books is important and is not going away, as stated in the subscription FAQ (see the answer to the question "Can I still buy and keep books, or will they be a subscription too?").
I just hope that the introduction of the subscriptions will allow to rent any resources and collections, but not a very limited set.
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So by all means, do something like this gentleman suggested for people who desire it, but I beg of you, keep the ability to buy packages and books in the same way that currently exists.
Of course, the ability to buy packages and books is important and is not going away, as stated in the subscription FAQ (see the answer to the question "Can I still buy and keep books, or will they be a subscription too?").
Well, not quite. The FAQ is wiggle-worded. Books and collections, yes. New packages (eg L11 Bronze, Silver, etc), no ... you need a subscription. But! Mark said you could sign up for the free temporary subscription, buy your package, and cancel. How's that!
"If myth is ideology in narrative form, then scholarship is myth with footnotes." B. Lincolm 1999.
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Of course, the ability to buy packages and books is important and is not going away, as stated in the subscription FAQ (see the answer to the question "Can I still buy and keep books, or will they be a subscription too?").
I know it is not going away anytime soon, but I do think it is important that we are quite vocal about what we don't want subscriptions to turn into because other platforms have fallen down the subscription rabbit hole. With that said, I do have a lot of faith in Faith Life.
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Need some help. I have Logos Max Subscription but the Bible Study Builder tool says it isn't available. What am I doing wrong?
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Need some help. I have Logos Max Subscription but the Bible Study Builder tool says it isn't available. What am I doing wrong?
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Need some help. I have Logos Max Subscription but the Bible Study Builder tool says it isn't available. What am I doing wrong?
What platform is this on Mike?
And what version of Logos are you running?
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I have Logos Max Subscription but the Bible Study Builder tool says it isn't available.
The Bible Study Builder hasn't been released yet in a stable version. It's still in beta.
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Need some help. I have Logos Max Subscription but the Bible Study Builder tool says it isn't available. What am I doing wrong?
I could be wrong, but there are two things regarding BSB:
1. It is in beta, so you will need to be on the beta testing track.
2. You need to follow the Logos Pro (Early Access) group at Faithlife.com
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Need some help. I have Logos Max Subscription but the Bible Study Builder tool says it isn't available. What am I doing wrong?
https://community.logos.com/forums/p/225257/1316064.aspx
here is more information on how you can get access to it.
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Apprehension Regarding Subscription Service
I'm sure that there is a lot of excitement (and likely stress) in that Northwest autumn air. But for me, a long-time logos user, excitement is not the correct noun. More like trepidation. I have bought into Microsoft's subscription services, but only Microsoft's (and I still only use the downloaded software but do store files both locally and in the cloud). I had to abandon Adobe and have lost my passion for photography as a result. I still shoot but now I have settled for the camera to just process the photo into jpgs and use inadequate filters to process the photos while damaging the files. This is my fear for Logos (Too costly and catering towards those of higher levels that I). Of course it will come down to costs, but there are other factors. An annual subscription with a price break is more appealing to me than monthly charges. I cannot see the pleasure in taking hits on my credit reputation if I have a bad month. But change is in the air. Yet none of this is why I write. I am looking for feedback as I process all of this.It seems like Logos is jumping on the A.I. bandwagon. Highspeed data matching is okay. Writing messages is a non-starter. You mention I will get 200-500 new books which will enhance the data matching of AI but will we have any say in the books? I'm not interested in certain schools of theology and if their books are included I foresee me spending more time exegeting your AI's output than the scriptures themselves. I'm not interested in that. I am interested in top of the line lexicons, two our three complete conservative semi-technical commentary sets (dispensational - currently I just buy a book when I will teach the Biblical book) but that is about it. I am not a scholar but do take my lay Bible studies serious. I am not a scholar, but your software is. I love the word study functions, wished that your sentence diagramming was on par with Biblearc. (Phrase - This is a big one as all of there functions are browser based, which I am not interested in, and cloud saved) and do use Factbook more than Bing or DuckDuckGo. I was stuck in traffic the other day thus dwelling some on a thought out of Titus when a question came to mind, I asked CoPilot the question and she told me what I was looking for. Very nice. If I could do the same with Logos AI then that would be better. I do have fears regarding how everything will be housed and served. I always prefer storing on my local disk. And I know you all use AWS which I'm a little uncomfortable with. I saw what they did to some political foes of theirs. For me it was humorous until I realized all of evangelicalism is functioning within the same context. Now I'm watching the news and am seeing evangelicals being knocked for not voting (I too was disappointed when Bush did not deliver).I just wanted to share these apprehensions as feedback for you all to mull over. Have a good day.--Jim0 -
You mention I will get 200-500 new books which will enhance the data matching of AI but will we have any say in the books? I'm not interested in certain schools of theology and if their books are included I foresee me spending more time exegeting your AI's output than the scriptures themselves.
Welcome to the forums and thanks for sharing your reaction. Relax. If you chose to run AI assisted searches, which is a personal choice, you can run it against your own choice of a collection of books. This allows you to get results without worrying about "contaminated" results any more than you do now.
your sentence diagramming was on par with Biblearc.
This can easily be done in Logos but is limited in automation due to copyright issues I have heard from outside sources which may not the reliable.
Orthodox Bishop Alfeyev: "To be a theologian means to have experience of a personal encounter with God through prayer and worship."; Orthodox proverb: "We know where the Church is, we do not know where it is not."
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Slightly off this threads topic...
I had to abandon Adobe and have lost my passion for photography as a result. I still shoot but now I have settled for the camera to just process the photo into jpgs and use inadequate filters to process the photos while damaging the files.
Hi Jim,
This is in no way a response to your Logos question, but instead a suggestion for your Photo editing. You might want to take a look at Capture One.
You can subscribe to it, but you can also but a perpetual license for it. It is similar to Lightroom. I use it to shoot tethered. I like it anyway.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread topic...
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Slightly off this threads topic...
I had to abandon Adobe and have lost my passion for photography as a result. I still shoot but now I have settled for the camera to just process the photo into jpgs and use inadequate filters to process the photos while damaging the files.
Hi Jim,
This is in no way a response to your Logos question, but instead a suggestion for your Photo editing. You might want to take a look at Capture One.
You can subscribe to it, but you can also but a perpetual license for it. It is similar to Lightroom. I use it to shoot tethered. I like it anyway.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread topic...
For free open source GIMP is used as a Photoshop alternative and is held with high regard. Darktable is another, though I've not tried that one yet.
Logos 10 - OpenSuse Tumbleweed, Windows 11, Android 15 & Android 14
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Slightly off this threads topic...
I had to abandon Adobe and have lost my passion for photography as a result. I still shoot but now I have settled for the camera to just process the photo into jpgs and use inadequate filters to process the photos while damaging the files.
Hi Jim,
This is in no way a response to your Logos question, but instead a suggestion for your Photo editing. You might want to take a look at Capture One.
You can subscribe to it, but you can also but a perpetual license for it. It is similar to Lightroom. I use it to shoot tethered. I like it anyway.
Now back to our regularly scheduled thread topic...
For free open source GIMP is used as a Photoshop alternative and is held with high regard. Darktable is another, though I've not tried that one yet.
For what it's worth, I've recently purchased ACDSee Ultimate as an alternative to Photoshop. It too comes with both a subscription and a perpetual license option, and looks like a good alternative (though I'm still a real newbie at digital photography post-processing).
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For all my reservations; today I shelled out $190 for a two year subscription; it's probably equivalent to what I normally pay for the full feature set ( my library is big enough and I now only purchase those books I actually want ), I still don't think AI is a great step forward but as a lay member many of the recent previous features haven't actually been a great step forward for me either; I now have a two year subscription because I want to continue supporting Logos as I have in the past.
Logos 10 didn't do much for me but I bought into it. The last great step forward for me was the upgrade to the notes tool; adding notebooks along with the clippings tool is where I mostly use Logos.
The whole subscription thing hasn't been that much different after all. I'll be happy to resubscribe in two years time.... so long as the cost is still comparable to previous releases.
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Is the Free Version of Logos going away? The Free version I have been using going to stop working?
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