When I read this, I immediately looked for the "retweet" button. Oh well...

In any case, well said. Quite ironic.

-Donnie

I appreciate this reply and will attempt to follow the instructions when I have opportunity, however, I have imported L3 notes in the past but that ability seemed to dissolve around the time the L3 server was taken down. I would love to be wrong about this. Thanks for the hope and I will post my result.

Oopsy-doopsy ... someone (me) forgot the obvious. You work late, Mr Grainger. Thank you.

Great idea 

Erwin Stull, Sr. said:

I can imagine that there may be a lot of BibleWorks questions. Maybe create a BibleWorks section in the forums, and call it something like "BibleWorks Users". This way all questions relating to Logos for users of BibleWorks would be funneled to one forum section. Just a suggestion.

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

Phil Gons (Faithlife) said:

We're testing our notes importing functionality internally and will be ready for some folks to test it externally soon. Reply to this post and let me know if you're interested in testing it. I'll provide further details once we're ready for external testers.

Anyone?

My observation from what I’ve seen: I guess either there aren’t that many BibleWorks users moving to Logos  or the “A” company took them all since they created their notes import tool within a matter of just a few short days after BW’s demise.  In other words, Logos is taking too long to make this tool available thus making the competition look more appealing to those who want to import their notes now and not later.  In either case, thanks for trying 👍😁👌

DAL

Phil, 

As much as I would like to "try it out"  I'm hesitant because of the known issue in the release notes... 

Known Issue: There are some issues displaying certain fonts when importing notes with text in Greek.

Has this been corrected by now?  I have a rather massive corpus of notes involving Greek. and really don't want to have to fix them all.

Just wanted to commiserate. I've used BW forever. Opposite of you, most of my work is in verse by verse. I've said it's like having a Bible with an infinitely wide margin. I have a treasure trove of material in those notes -- material from lexica, journal articles, web articles, personal insights, pictures, diagrams, tables, and on and on and on. So if you had 4400 chapter notes, I'd probably have 440,000 individual verse notes, anchored to nothing! [:O]

I was literally looking into bequeathing it to a young pastor for use after my death, when BW announced it was simply toggling off. They were such good, good brothers; but it felt like betrayal.

So I just continue to work in both. Logos is an amazing, amazing resource. But it doesn't handle those notes like BW, tying them to verses like that. I wish there were a way to convert them and make it work.

My sympathies.

Thank you, Daniel. I have been trying different ways of moving the text. The BibleWorks Report Generator is a possibility. If you uncheck the report options, remove versions, use Analyze a Greek version for the Old Testament, then do a second report on the New Testament using a Hebrew version to analyze (because it insists and you don't want that information in your report), you can generate two reports that will then need to be cleaned up because many literal lines are generated for each verse.

A second method is to download Accordance Lite. It's free. It does a good job of importing the BibleWorks files, both chapter and verse files in biblical order, except it loses any table formats and images that you may have copied into BibleWorks. Then it does what we would have liked Logos to do: your notes run alongside the biblical text. This can be copied (500 verses max at a time) and pasted into Logos. I do not know what the file size limitations might be. The notes do NOT run alongside the text and I do not know how to anchor them to the text. Logos does however recognize references within the text and will link in that way.

Logos indicated that it could import BibleWorks notes (https://support.logos.com/hc/en-us/articles/360016299072-Import-BibleWorks-Notes-into-Logos), but only verse notes were imported through my several attempts, and they were useless because they are not linked to the text.

I would have thought that Logos users would want to write their own commentaries on large passages, chapters and books, and be able to reread those notes without clicking on little icons in the text. I am surprised that this is not a standard function and that the notes do not track with the text. Maybe Logos 10? 

Having said that, the wealth of information is an enormous help. But I will probably continue using BibleWorks alongside Logos.

So far I am not seeing any response. I've typed
"Import BibleWorks from /Users/jgaryellison/Desktop/notes/" and
"Import BibleWorks Notes from /Users/jgaryellison/Desktop/notes/

Whether I hit Return or Go does not seem to matter. There is no feedback, and then there are no new Notebooks or "Imported Notes" under Docs, and nothing from Today.

Question: would my Logos get the update on the bug that you just fixed?

I have 982 chapter notes and about 3,500 verse notes.

Hmmm. I'm realizing I have no idea if my chapter notes imported correctly or where to find them. 

I have been able to import 833 chapter notes from BibleWorks and they are correctly linked to the biblical text. Logos imported formatting (bold and colors). It is also importing tables as tables. Yeah! Images have to be imported using "Insert media."

I have had to do it in multiple imports, importing 50 or so files at a time, but it worked. That is very helpful with the transition!

I am still wondering how to import the verse files so that they are correctly linked to verses. Right now they are simply "floating logions," unanchored to the biblical text. I could batch rename the files to export. I tried renaming 1 Timothy files 1TI1_8.bww, 1TI1_15.bww, etc. from their original names in the 1TI folder. They imported, but are still unlinked to verses. Since chapter notes can be imported and linked to chapters, there must be a way that Logos can link verse notes to verses. 

I'm very happy that I can see my previous chapter work in Logos 9. That's is a big advance. Please help me figure out how to import the verse notes.

Thank you!

Thanks for your help, Ed. I was not able to get to work, but I was able to manually enter 2,875 verse-note files using a macro program. I set it to work overnight and it was finished when I got up in the morning. I have over 350 topics in those verses, such as "asides" in the Gospel of John, Mormonism, the Trinity, etc. I can now continue the work in Logos.

Thanks again for your help.

Hi Dan. BibleWorks definitely has some features that I miss in Logos such as quick and easy cross-referencing enabling the user to quickly create his own cross-references (plural!), instant hover and search listing as per user defined filter, and instant wordlists by chapter, book, section, etc. Nothing to set up, no steps to take, it's just there. I do miss those features.

However, Logos offers so many resources and structures in sermon planning, PowerPoint production, and other ways, that it is a truly amazing program. Logos has found the secret to funding further development through digitalized resources.

It has been so long since I transitioned from BibleWorks, that I don't remember all the details of importing what I call the chapter notes and the verse notes. The chapter notes imported easily. This Logos link gives the steps: https://www.logos.com/bibleworks

You can now import BibleWorks notes into Logos using the new Notes tool, included with your BW Crossgrade. Here's how it works:

1. Type “import BibleWorks notes” in the Command box and press Enter. (If your notes are stored in a custom location, type “import BibleWorks notes from [path]” in the Command box and press Enter.)
2. Logos will import your notes and store them in a new notebook titled “Imported Notes.” Depending on the volume of your notes, this may take some time.
3. To find the notes you’ve imported, click Tools > Notes. Open the Notes tool sidebar and search for “Imported Notes.

Concerning the verse notes, I changed the BWW extensions to RTF (and renamed them all to reflect the verse with which they should be linked. Most of them were simply "tags" (#Trinity, #Asides (Johannine), etc. Then I used a Keyboard Maestro macro and imported them one by one (basically Copy/Paste) on the basis of the names of each file. I had the content of 2,875 separate files to transfer. Keyboard Maestro worked through the night and did the work file by file. It was not pretty, but it worked.

There might be another option as you mentioned merging the 66 files. In uploading Personal Books, there are several options under Type including Bible Commentary, Commentary, Bible Notes. I've never used them, so I do not know how they work, but someone might be able to make a suggestion on how to prepare the file (66 files in one) for integration, assuming one of those options would work. It would probably function like a linked Bible commentary so you could see your notes in a separate panel. You would not be able to edit them unless you edit your base file (66 in one) and uploaded it through Personal Books again.

Good morning Gary (from Texas).  Blessings on your service to the Lord in the Republic of Vanuatu.  I pray you and your family are safe by our Lord's grace and blessings.  I am new to Logos and have been looking for help for a while now to get my personal database and my OliveTree notes and highlights with correct colors into Logos.  I am getting closer, but still no joy.  I too am on a mac and so the "path" is not as intuitive as on a PC.  I need help and am hoping you can share what you've learned about direct import, but I also am a Keyboard Maestro user and am very familiar with it.  I am very intrigued by your KM solution.  Could you please share it as well?  I have not looked at doing it that way yet, but thought I could probably cut through a lot of trial and error in my effort with help from you.  Again, blessings always.  Tc

Hi Thomas. Thank you for your kind words and greeting. 
I have a version of Olive Tree that I have almost never used on my Mac. But I do not see where user information is stored. In BibleWorks, every note was a separate RTF file, though the extension was BWW. So I used a macro to rename each note file with something that would work in Logos. I think (it's been three years now) I then created a Keyboard Maestro routine to use the filename to find the corresponding reference in Logos, then go and get the contents of the BibleWorks note and copy the contents into the new Logos note. Then I enclosed the whole routine in a WHILE command, moving through each of the files one by one. It was very amateurish. 

Looking at the few notes that I have in Olive Tree, I am not sure how to go about copying them to Logos because I only see them in Olive Tree, and it opens and closes each note, not allowing you to navigate automatically through the notes. If there is a way to export the notes to a file, it might be easier. Otherwise, I'm guessing it will be a more manual note by note process. 

I'm sorry that I don't have a better solution. Perhaps technical support would have an idea. The Lord bless you.

👍😁👌

 Hi Thomas,

This link may have some help: https://www.logos.com/bibleworks. Here's the pertinent content:

How Do I Import BibleWorks Notes into Logos?

You can now import BibleWorks notes into Logos using the new Notes tool. Here's how it works:

1. Type “import BibleWorks notes” in the Command box and press Enter. (If your notes are stored in a custom location, type “import BibleWorks notes from [path]” in the Command box and press Enter.)
2. Logos will import your notes and store them in a new notebook titled “Imported Notes.” Depending on the volume of your notes, this may take some time.
3. To find the notes you’ve imported, click Tools > Notes. Open the Notes tool sidebar and search for “Imported Notes.”

KEYBOARD MAESTRO 

I think this is the macro that I used, but I'm not sure how helpful it is. It's a "quick and dirty" macro just made to serve my one-time purpose, and I doubt that the positions on my screen will correspond to your screen. I used a different macro to repeat this macro. NOT VERY PRETTY!

Delete Past Clipboard 1

Notify on failure.

Activate Finder

Notify on failure.

Type the Return Keystroke

Type the ⌘C Keystroke

Type the Escape Keystroke

Activate Logos

Notify on failure.

Pause for 1.5 Seconds

Notify on failure.

Move and Click

At (112,140) from the top left corner of the front window.
Stop macro and notify on failure.

Pause for .5 Seconds

Notify on failure.

Type the ⌘A Keystroke

Pause for .5 Seconds

Notify on failure.

Type the ⌘V Keystroke

Type the Return Keystroke

Type the ⌘Tab Keystroke

Activate Finder

Notify on failure.

Pause for 1 Second

Notify on failure.

Select Menu Item in Finder

Select: File ⇢ Open
Stop macro and notify on failure.

Activate TextEdit

Notify on failure.

Pause for 1.5 Seconds

Notify on failure.

Type the ⌘A Keystroke

Type the ⌘C Keystroke

Type the ⌘Q Keystroke

Activate Logos

Notify on failure.

Move and Click

At (1351,141) from the top left corner of the front window.
Stop macro and notify on failure.

Move and Click

At (1250,873) from the absolute position.
Stop macro and notify on failure.

Pause for 2 Seconds

Notify on failure.

Type the ⌘V Keystroke

Type the ⌘Tab Keystroke

Activate Finder

Notify on failure.

Pause for .5 Seconds

Notify on failure.

Type the Down Arrow Keystroke

Type the Escape Keystroke

Type the Escape Keystroke

Hello, Ethan.

I imported my Bibleworks notes last year without any problem.  Bibleworks notes files are rich text files with a .bww extension instead of an .rtf extension.  The key to importing chapter and verse notes is to maintain the folder and naming scheme that was used by Bibleworks.  There is no internal designation for chapter and verse inside the file, unless you added it yourself.

If you have any more questions, let me know.