Parity: Bring to iPad all the features of the desktop version
Hanson
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iPadOS needs all the features of the desktop version. Running the iOS logos on iPadOS is extremely limiting and new iPads can handle to the workload.
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This needs to happen! for me, it's the only thing holding me back and not upgrading from the base package. iPadOS would easily handle this on the pro versions0
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I use the iPad for preaching and in Bible groups. I would need more assistants and offline functions (e.g. pastoral care and fact book). The performance is very high, comparable to notebooks.0
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I absolutely agree! The Ipad Pro is my daily companion. The only software that still forces me to use the PC is logos.
The mobile app must be offered separately for IOS and IpadOS. Simply one Version for Smartphones like it is now, and another Version for iPadOS including all features of the Desktop Version. It's just very frustrating that I just can't use most of the expensive features on the go.0 -
This is the single thing stopping me from spending a whole lot of money on Logos resources!0
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I believe this would require a whole new application. In my opinion this is a good idea but should be a separate app leaving the current app in place. Of course this might require supporting both apps but not all iPads are as powerful as a PC although some are. Some people find the PC version more difficult to use. This is a consideration for two apps. The screen size is still limited and currently has some features such as multiple windows by scrolling left/right as an option, that I really like.0
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Yes please!! I would love to put my presentation together on my IPAD!!!0
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I use a 2020 iPad Pro as my day to day computer. The ONLY software I use regularly that forces me to dig out my old MacBook is Proclaim. Bummer.0
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This would be cash money! For faithlife that is. I’m happily iPad only and the ONLY reason I have considered getting a laptop is because of Logos. Don’t make me do that guys!0
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@dalede-45 this is a fair point. Apps like Things have separate apps for iPhone and iPad at different costs, something like that may be the way to do it.0
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I agree my iPad Pro is faster than my laptop and could handle it. Also, I really miss have the counseling program/workflow from the desktop version. I don’t won’t my laptop up in front of me when counseling, but a tablet is good and more discreet0
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Now that the iPad Pro has the M1 chip I can't think of any reason to not bring a fully functional desktop version of Logos to the iPad. I know for a lot of us the iPad has replaced the desktop with the exception of Logos. Also, looking forward, I guarantee apple replaces their Macbook line up with the iPad––hence the M1 chip.0
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Thinking of moving to the iPad Pro and getting rid of my MacBook Air and right now Logos is the only app that I have reservations about. Would love to see a dedicated iPadOS app!0
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This would be WONDERFUL!!!!0
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@dalede-45 this is a valid point. However, I do believe devices with the new M1 chip can handle it without out issue.0
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Newer M1 units could handle this but people shouldn't have to buy a new iPad to run Logos. The older unit version could be maintained and improved as needed with a full version also available.0
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I second what many have said. I want to be iPad only, but the only software keeping me using a laptop is Faithlife - Logos and Proclaim desktop apps. If we could have the current mobile app maintained for phones and also have a fully functional desktop app available, that would be ideal! The web app is nowhere near as functional as the desktop app, it's slower, and it requires internet (which is an issue here in rural America!).0
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@Julschik Totally agree!0
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Amen to that! I feel strongly about this regarding the Notes tool.0
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I just suggested adding Workflows, but I agree that bringing the full range of features to the iPad would be excellent.0
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I say lets do it, and heres how and why I say we only need one app. just the logos mobile app, phones and ipads are quite powerful, the way you could cut down is say settings, set it up for what you want it, like say ok you want tabs instead of windows view, set it in settings, how you want your books to appear, set it that way, if you want to use desktop features or just the mobile features, set it... that way its one app and each user gets to choose and nobody loses any money or is forced to upgrade systems. you market it as you already are, study on the go, keep providing it on the appstore, I mean lets face it, ipad and ios are basically the same, so...
the difference between logos now on the go and what the future could be could be under settings and the user could set it as he or she wants. now that would be awesome.0 -
Logos are you listening?0
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I have Logos proper on my laptop, which is great when I use my laptop, but I rarely use it anymore since I have an iPad now which is much more mobile and flexible. I know many people, myself included, who are trying to consolidate their resources on to a single device, but that is only 100% effective if the Logos iPad app is just as functional as the desktop version. I am thankful for the Logos app I have now, but I think there should be a difference between “Logos Mobile” for phones, and “Logos Tablet,” with the tablet version being just as capable as the desktop version.0
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I’ve moved to using my iPad Pro 12.9 M1 as my primary computer (and only computer in my office). Can’t access a number of features from the desktop version unless at home. Using an external monitor, keyboard, and trackpad. Recently have begun experimenting with iPadOS 16 beta.0
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With the power of iPad, specifically iPad Pro, I prefer to use the iPad as my primary work device. The only application currently holding me back from making the switch is Logos. I love the desktop app, but I am disappointed with the mobile (and the web) app. For instance I love the corresponding words visual filter to highlight lemmas or roots, but the mobile app does not seem to have it, and the web app only incorporates surface text. iPad Pro is capable of running the full desktop app, and with the migration of Macs to custom Apple Silicon, their goal is for apps to be cross platform with their Swift language.1
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Yes, please!!!0
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This would be super helpful. For me, it would be especially useful to have the full sermon builder capabilities on my iPad (exporting slides and handouts, sermon notebooks, etc.).0
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Wrote this 2 years ago. I still stand by the recommendation. However, you can use the logos web within your browser on your iPad.0
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Ok, FWIW, I’m still using Logos on my iPad which I’ve now upgraded to the new M2 iPad Pro. Still only using my old MacBook for Proclaim editing. Almost always use Logos on the iPad. I couldn’t tell you what the desktop version of Logos has that the iPad version doesn’t because I rarely use the Desktop version. For many, many people in the category of Pastor/Teacher, iPads are going to increasingly become the primary computer. While that scenario may be a long way off for pros in many industries, for average folks and people whose professional life consists of research, writing, and public speaking the trend is clear. I love your products. I hope the product teams and devs have the foresight to keep up with the times.0
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@Tim Amen. I hope the product teams at Faithlife have the foresight to keep up with this trend. I hate to see companies go the way of OliveTree Bible Software. They used to be the most popular mobile Bible platform back in the Palm OS days. They refused to “abandon” their legacy base of Palm OS users when iOS came out and fell way behind. Sadly now, you may have never even heard of them because they couldn’t see where things were going clearly enough to make tough resource allocation decisions. Faithlife isn’t at the edge of the precipice (not yet anyway) but I sometimes wonder if they’ve accepted where this is all headed. I hope so. I really like their products and have invested too much to see them disappear.0
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I agree. The iPad app is very limited. I would like to see a welcome screen and side bar like the desktop version.0
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@Julschik agreed! It is now 2 years after your comment and we still don’t have parity.0
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iPhone 14 with A15 or A16 chip, Ipad Mini with A15, iPad Air with M1 or iPad Pro with M2 chip (and about 60g free memory) can easily handle full Logos download of 10k titles and do indexing etc. Faster than most older Laptops.
Not enough screen real estate on iPhones for full festooned capability. But iPads do have enough , if properly managed and fairly small point sizes are used.=============
Redeeming the time (Eph.5:16+Col.4:5) ... Win 10, iOS & iPadOS 16
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It would be interesting to know how many people use mobile devices to access Logos.0
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Agreed. Logos is all I use my 7 year old windows laptop for.0
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I realize this would take considerable work, but I would use it 99.9% of the time I use Logos if you made a fully-functional, desktop grade app for the iPad.0
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I don’t own a laptop and have been doing all of my work on the iPad. I recently bought a logos 10 package as well (Academic Essentials) and it had the features I saw which was the closest to the Bronze and the features I could needed to be on the iPad. But then there are so many limitations to using the iPad that even the web app also does not compensate. Maybe a paid desktop feel app? That would be a win win for me. For now, im constantly having to find other ways to get the job done. Please please make this happen. Or then i have to save and buy a laptop…which i’d rather save to build my logos library and have them fully functioning on my iPad!0
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Mobile processors on both IOS and Android are super powerful. What you do for iPadOS pls also do for Android.0
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IT’s TIME YOU got iPad Pro desktop like support. The iPad Pro is more efficient, faster and easier to use. I do not own a desktop and my iPad and iPhone is my only way to study.
Please let us know when you get it DONE
LOTS OF PEOPLE ASKING AND VOTING FOR THIS OPTION1 -
The features in Ipad is so much lesser than in desktop, could you please improve it, or advice1
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@Nathan Ipad 12 with 1t of memory will handle any set they have. But no can do. why bother.0
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Yes! This would be incredible. I’m sure this is possible because I’ve seen this done with other Ipad OS apps. Where the Ipad app is pretty much fully capable in comparison with the mac app. If logos was fully capable while bringing apple pencil support for therapy workflows and canvas **chefs kiss (I would happily shell out a one time fee for this app on ipad if it worked really well! WHATEVER you do, don’t make it a subscription. I WILL NOT support that regardless of the price of the subscription. Thanks.0
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I have an iPad Pro 11” and read a lot of iPad forums. The limiting factor in Logos for iPad parity with the desktop is iPadOS itself and the way _it_ behaves.
With the Pro versions having more RAM (8GB and 16GB with the 1TB version) Apple needs to step up their game. A lot of users (myself included) wish we could use the iPad as our only device - but Apple is standing in the way of that for now.
For now the iPhone dictates how the iPad behaves.
I recommend to people - use your iPad until it blocks you, then have a cheap computer (I have a 2017 MacBook Air $300 refurbished these days) accessible for these moments. I find logos a better experience on desktop than iPad but I majority ‘blame’ Apple, not Faithlife.
iPad logos has some tweaks I’d like to see, but I level set my expectations against this context.0 -
Would be nice. Android / Samsung tablet too pls. Tablets are just as powerful as most desktops now!0
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The new Logos needs this adaptation.
If we really want to make logos our main workplace, it must be able to accompany us with all its capacity wherever we go.
It serves as a versatile tool for work, study, and prayer. It’s crucial that this app can seamlessly follow you everywhere, maintaining the same full version as we have on iOS. I believe it’s feasible to adapt this app to run on the iPad with the M-chip, ensuring a smooth and uninterrupted user experience.0 -
Yes, please!0
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Totally agree! I see that this was first brought up 3 years ago. Since then a lot of people have ditched their PCs and laptops and are using ipads exclusively. We need this to happen now. Please.0
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I think because the the direction tech is going, and more people using tablets, this is essential.0
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The new iPad Pro's are so powerful that a full featured app feels like it should be possible. I use my iPad 100x more than my PC and it would be helpful for home cell/small groups.0
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I agree! more & more people are using iPads as laptop replacements. personally, when I travel, I don't bring my laptop just my iPad, so it's really inconvenient to not be able to use the full range of study tools (in particular searching by the original language roots). instead I have to make a note to myself to go home & search it later, or just make do with Blue Letter Bible's lemma searches0
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I set up a Logos account for my wife and bought a starter package for her. We got it set up on her iPad and found that it lacks so many features she has to log into my account on the web app to do her research. Then she can read her Bible and take notes in the Logos mobile app on her iPad. But the features are so limited, I almost regret buying a package for her. Logos has a learning curve, and she is less motivated to figure it out since her iPad app can't do many of the things I told her that I use in Logos (I'm mainly on a MacBook personally, and use my iPad Logos for reading or preaching only).
I think greater iPad parity would encourage wider adoption since many casual users will start with the mobile app. At least, for my "normal" church friends who don't teach/preach, their main use case is devotional study on mobile. And if they could get access to more features, I think they would be more likely to consider buying a package.0
