That's all!
Go look at the Pre-Pub Page!
http://www.logos.com/prepub
Awesome news!
YES!!!! I had to check to make sure that it wasn't April 1 though!
Is there any chance we can see a exact layout format as present in the printed version of any books in Logos? All those title from Zondervan have nice color pictures, and well highlighted color heading and titles....
Without a payment plan, there's no way I'm ordering them, though.
Now if there was a way to transfer my Pradis licenses to Libronix (I already have most of the books offered and there is no way I am buying them again)
I am thankful that the pre-pub's price is the same as the sale's price. this make the decision very easy for me
Alain
All those title from Zondervan have nice color pictures, and well highlighted color heading and titles....
After the Christian History Magazine without-graphics ordeal, I looked very cautiously at the Zondervan Encyclopedia of the Bible (5 Vols..) The description DOES say it has the pictures.
There are no progress bars on the Pre-Pubs. Will they be shipping before NICOT/NT?
$2K? ... ouch.
Seriously. I just got Spurgeon 86 (Thank you!) and NICOT/NT is only three weeks out. Not counting all the "little stuff"...... I am scared to death the Zondervan 87 will ship right before Christmas. If I can't afford it at $2000 I'll probably never be able to get it.[:'(] Oh yeah, Calvin 108 is coming at us. They just can't hold that release to his 501st birthday. [^]
Seriously. I just got Spurgeon 86 (Thank you!) and NICOT/NT is only three weeks out. Not counting all the "little stuff"...... I am scared to death the Zondervan 87 will ship right before Christmas. If I can't afford it at $2000 I'll probably never be able to get it.
Yes, I'm in the same boat. However, the savings of buying the collection right now is not that significant. With being already committed to the NICOT/NT, the Zondervan titles are going to have to wait a bit I'm afraid. However, knowing that they are there is brilliant because I will be buying some of them. In fact, I would have bought some of them by now if it hadn't been for only being available on Pradis.
I wrote Zondervan on more than one occasion asking them to release their products on Logos, so now that they have done this, I am going to drop them a note of support. This is a brilliant development!
I was wrote Zondervan on more than one occasion asking them to release their products on Logos, so now that they have done this, I am going to drop them a note of support. This is a brilliant development!
I agree. I am very happy to hear the news. When I look at the Mega package, there are only 2 books I don't like and only 3 books I am neutral on. Everything else os something I would love to have. But I noticed many of the individual Pre-Pubs are priced the same as retail. The Blog said Zondervan gets to set the prices. I may have to forego the bulk.
Still I say "Thank you Zondervan & Logos!" [<:o)]
That is good news! I wonder if the collection will be offered as unbundled products? While it may be more expensive that's probably the only way I'm going to be able to afford it, unlless....
Hey! Anybody got a couple grand you can lend me? I'll pay you back at the rapture! [:D]
You can buy each of the series, but not volumes separately. For example, the NIVAC for the New Testament is $249. It doesn't appear that you could just buy the volume for Romans at this stage.
So what about the couple of Pradis/Zondervan resources I now have? Any idea if they will serve as a credit or discount of some sort to transfer them to the Logos platform?
Yes, finally.
Once upon I bought a package from Zondervan, Expositor's Bible Commentary, which I treasure. When they updated the resource, or shall I say interface, they wanted a hefty upgrade price. I'm still using their antiquated interface, and resolved never to buy another Zondervan electronic product again.
Now there's hope again... and integration. Thank you, Logos... and Zondervan. I'll now reconsider my decision...
This news is a great way to start the day!!!
This is great news! I'm consistently amazed with the resources that Logos continues to offer us.
From the Zondervan News release
“We are going to make sure we, first and foremost, work with the many thousands of Pradis customers for a smooth transition to the new search engines,” said Zondervan’s Paul Engle, Senior Vice President and Publisher of Church, Academic and Reference Resources. ”Many of these people have been customers for a dozen years and we will make sure they are eligible for a discount to these new titles upon release.”
The Expositors commentary on prepub lists a large discount but the encyclopedia shows as list price. I'm interested is seeing what Zondervan considers a discount. (I do appreciate them switching to a software platform that is not likely to be abandoned:-)
Scott,
Looking at your picture I'm wondering if your real name isn't Dorian Gray. You're looking very young.
So what about the couple of Pradis/Zondervan resources I now have? Any idea if they will serve as a credit or discount of some sort to transfer them to the Logos platform? From the Zondervan News release “We are going to make sure we, first and foremost, work with the many thousands of Pradis customers for a smooth transition to the new search engines,” said Zondervan’s Paul Engle, Senior Vice President and Publisher of Church, Academic and Reference Resources. ”Many of these people have been customers for a dozen years and we will make sure they are eligible for a discount to these new titles upon release.” The Expositors commentary on prepub lists a large discount but the encyclopedia shows as list price. I'm interested is seeing what Zondervan considers a discount. (I do appreciate them switching to a software platform that is not likely to be abandoned:-)
I don't like the way Zondervan phrased their news release, especially when they mention a "discount" and appear to consider titles that change platforms to be "new titles". I already own 90% of the resources listed in Pradis format. even a 50% discount would still be more expensive than what I originally paid for these resources.
I know that this is not really up to Logos, but Zondervan should not force current owners to basically re-buy and maybe paying even more than the original price for the same resources just because they decided to discontinue support for their existent platform
I hope and pray that Zondervan will treat it like an upgrade in engine and charge a flat fee for the user's entire collection and not see it as an upgrade of each individual resources and offer discounts that make many Pradis users unhappy
How is this "discount" suppose to work? If one purchase the item on Pre-pub now, how will this discount be applied later? I would have thought a clear statement was needed now! Very confusing, don't want to pay now & find i cannot get the discount later.
Ted.
Ted,
I do not see an advantage in signing up for the pre-pub now for most of the resources since, the it is the same as the "sale" price.
I suspect that Zondervan will handle the discount itself since Logos was not involved in the purchase of Pradis product and would have a hard time determining previous ownership (they do not require owners to register software and as far as I know they do not have a tracking system)
I will wait until Zondervan clarifies the "discount policy"
I wrote Zondervan using the email provided in the news release asking them to clarify their policy and consider the fact that none of the current owners of Pradis software want to repurchase the same resources.
I encourage all current owners of Pradis products to write to Zondervan and urge them to do right by us.
Ted, I do not see an advantage in signing up for the pre-pub now for most of the resources since, the it is the same as the "sale" price. I suspect that Zondervan will handle the discount itself since Logos was not involved in the purchase of Pradis product and would have a hard time determining previous ownership (they do not require owners to register software and as far as I know they do not have a tracking system) I will wait until Zondervan clarifies the "discount policy" I wrote Zondervan using the email provided in the news release asking them to clarify their policy and consider the fact that none of the current owners of Pradis software want to repurchase the same resources. I encourage all current owners of Pradis products to write to Zondervan and urge them to do right by us. Alain
Thanks Alain, have you got Zondervan's email address?
This is what I used
News Release
Contact: Jason Vines(616) 698-3598jason.vines@zondervan.com
And you, George, judging by your picture, are looking very old...
I already have some of it in Pradis, but will be buying it for Logos as I need it.
-Jacob
That's my situation as well. I'm using the EBC in STEP format because the upgrade to Pradis costs $60 (plus another $60 for shipping to France!). Now I see that the Logos standard price is over $460. Even the sale price ($130) is more expensive than the Pradis price of $125.
I do have the Pradis Greek/Hebrew collection, and those books aren't even mentioned in the Logos package.
I have the Pradis 5.1...running on the 6.0 engine....the footnotes do not pull up in the dependent books-footnotes...have to be scrolled to at the end, or else run a separate instance of EBC to view them...you didn't miss much. I don't know much about LOGOS's pricing vs. their pre-pub. Do they normally hold to such inflated prices $460? I think you can get the hardbound cheaper!
Now I see that the Logos standard price is over $460
