Why is a critique of Leighton Flowers’s “The Potter’s Promise” available but not the book critiqued?

Robert Warmath
Robert Warmath Member Posts: 4
edited December 3 in Resources Forum

I am deeply disappointed to see A Critique of Provisionism: A Response to Leighton Flowers’s “The Potter’s Promise” is available in Logos without offering Flower's The Potter's Promise. I searched for Dr. Flowers's book, but only this critique came up in the results. I realize the book description for the critique is from the book cover, but there is no mention that Dr. Flowers is himself a former Calvinist, but instead implied to be a proponent of Arminianism (which he is not) or even promoting Manichaeism or Pelagianism (which is absolutely untrue!). There is not one of Leighton Flowers' books available in Logos, nor are any books written presenting Provisionism. Provisionism is a relatively new term to describe what has been a predominant view of soteriology taught among Southern Baptists for the past 75-100 years (formally referred to as Traditionalism in the Southern Baptist tradition). Why are there only books presenting the Calvinist/Reformed theology and not any of the solid, scholarly critiques of that particular view?

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  • DMB
    DMB Member Posts: 13,613 ✭✭✭
    edited December 3

    Regarding no Potters Promise, best guess: Trinity Academic Press. I don't see any current offerings and thus FL may not have a relationship yet with them. Of course, the 'against' volume is from Wipf and Stock … a big FL publisher.

    Don't know the missing Provisionalism, among Southern Baptists.

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  • MJ. Smith
    MJ. Smith MVP Posts: 53,401

    A Critique of Provisionism: A Response to Leighton Flowers’s “The Potter’s Promise” is an e-book meaning that Logos has it through an automatic download and conversion. the blurb is from the publisher.

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  • scooter
    scooter Member Posts: 1,131 ✭✭✭

    Thanks MJ. I now have Cserhati's 'Critique…' on my buy list.

  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,765 ✭✭✭

    Why are there only books presenting the Calvinist/Reformed theology and not any of the solid, scholarly critiques of that particular view?

    There are. For example: For Calvinism and Against Calvinism (2 vols.) | Logos Bible Software (which is clearly a more respectful dialogue than Cserhati's work.)

  • Robert Warmath
    Robert Warmath Member Posts: 4

    I do realize there are some books in favor of the Arminian position. Still, there are other positions, such as Molinism and Provisionism (to use the term provided by Leighton Flowers, although the former term "Traditionalism" as applied to soteriology has existed for at least as long as the past century). The preponderance of pro-Calvinist/Reformed view words seems to dominate even over the pro-Arminianism works. I hope that Logos will take a broader approach and make more works of such views available. I had to purchase Kindle publications so as to access some alternative viewpoints since they were not available through Logos. I am still extremely disappointed that books like Flowers's "The Potter's Promise" are not available even as part of a Baptist Collection, especially considering his role in apologetics in one of the largest Southern Baptist state conventions. Can any e-book be "automatically downloaded and converted," or only certain titles/publishers?

  • Robert Warmath
    Robert Warmath Member Posts: 4

    I assume you mean Faithlife by the initials FL. I doubt Logos Bible Software has every single title published by Wipf and Stock. That still would not prohibit Logos Bible Software from seeking permission from Trinity to provide a copy of Flowers's book for their software.

  • Doc B
    Doc B Member Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭

    I guess his book just isn't "choice meats." 😂

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  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭

    I don't know whether to "Agree", "Like" or "LOL" this post!!!

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  • Jan Krohn
    Jan Krohn Member Posts: 3,765 ✭✭✭

    I don't know whether to "Agree", "Like" or "LOL" this post!!!

    We should be able to do all three.

  • Frank Sauer
    Frank Sauer Member Posts: 1,757 ✭✭✭

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